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2022-09-07 10:44 by Karl Denninger
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The MSM *ADMITS* They Were Wrong
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You may not read it this way, but the title is exactly correct.

Let's add another: You may well be boned if you took the jabs with nothing you can do about it.

You may have fucked yourself listening to Fauci, Birx, Trump, Biden and your doctor.

With new COVID variant-specific booster shots set to roll out in the coming week, vaccine scientists argue that more research is needed to understand how a person's early immune response -- either through vaccination or infection itself -- may impact future protection against a constantly evolving virus.

Oh, really?  You mean we've never done that before?

Wait -- we have.  In fact we've studied it for a long time, specifically with influenza.

Let's continue.

"There's a theory that our immunological response to the first exposure to a virus may sort of imprint your immune system," said John Brownstein, an ABC News contributor and chief innovation officer at Boston Children's Hospital.

That's not a theory; its been experimentally proved.  It is why I refuse flu jabs; I am healthy now and have been, and there is a risk that by taking the jab I will train my body to respond to the last war instead of the next one.  Influenza jabs are "full protein" vaccines; that is, they actually contain the whole virus, but its been killed so it can't give you the flu.  In addition influenza describes a family of viruses, not a single one.

Nonetheless it has been demonstrated that repeated flu vaccines can cause your body to respond with the wrong antibodies when it encounters a new strain, and if that occurs you might get hurt worse than if you had no vaccine against it at all.  Since I am healthy now but in the future, when I'm 80, I might well be quite ill, I choose to reserve said risk for when I might need the protection.

Although still theoretical, some scientists worry about a potential backfire, with frequent boosting handcuffing the body's natural immune system and leaving it exposed to radically different variants that might emerge in the future.

"Where this matters is if you keep giving booster doses with [original] strain, and continue to lock people into that original response. It makes it harder for them to respond then to essentially a completely different virus," says Dr. Paul Offit, professor of pediatrics at Children's Hospital Philadelphia.

With Covid this is much worse because the Covid jabs target only the spike protein and that is the part that mutates.  Therefore having them gives you no recognition whatsoever against the conserved, that is immutable, part of the virus -- the nucleocapsid.

If your immune system has "imprinted" and produces antibodies to the wrong spike you may not only get nothing you may materially delay your body's recognition and ability to fight off the next strain.  That can kill you.

We were discussing exactly this risk on my forum before mass rollout of the jabs began and people reading and commenting there were talking about the history of this in influenza and the partial targeting, thus the risk that it could be ruinously bad and indeed permanent with the covid shots.

Nobody knows for sure and, as the story notes, that is the truth.

However, what we do know is that this risk is not theoretical because it has been found in influenza vaccines and took nearly 20 years to be characterized.  Indeed here's a paper from 2018 talking about it.

Although this model has been challenged since its discovery, past exposure, and likely one's first exposure, clearly affects the epitopes targeted in subsequent responses.

So much for "might"; in point of fact we know it does.

What we don't know is how it applies to any specific virus that mutates on a regular basis.  This is not much of a risk with things like measles and polio, where the virus mutates very slowly (if at all) and thus a vaccine against measles developed and injected into you decades ago still works against the measles virus today; your immune "prime" is still correct when challenged down the road.

But the more a virus mutates and the less of a virus a given shot targets the less this becomes true.  When you build shots around the part of the virus that mutates you've removed the only check and balance that a vaccine actually has against this happening, which is to include the parts that don't mutate!

The really ugly part of this fact is that because we know this happens with influenza, and influenza describes a family of viruses and not one virus, it is entirely possible that if you have "imprinted" the spike-only response to Covid that damage may extend to all other beta coronaviruses or even worse, to all coronaviruses!  In other words when, not if, the next one shows up that nobody has prior immune knowledge of you may well get screwed much worse than someone who has not taken the shots.

Given the history of coronaviruses it is a near-certainty that during a human lifetime a new one will in fact arrive on the scene that can infect humans, whether created by nature or man.

I refused said shots in no small part for this precise reason.  I could not characterize this risk; in combination with the certain knowledge that the spike alone was dangerous even without the rest of the virus, which no less than the Salk Institute wrote a paper on in December of 2020 before mass jabbing started it was my considered opinion that for my person, in good health, I'd be crazy to take these jabs as beyond the risk of spike damage from the shot I might permanently screw my immune system in terms to capacity to respond to both current and future coronaviruses.

The only good news is that viral mutation tends to select for more spread and less lethality.  Its just probability; a virus "wins" on an evolutionary scale by being easier to transmit and less deadly so it is transmitted to more people.  However, that probability does not exclude the possibility that a mutation arises which is both more-easily transmitted and wildly more-deadly; while that is not the favored path probabilities are not absolutes; they are odds and it is always possible that you will pull the black ball.

You better hope, if you took these shots, that we don't and that you haven't permanently damaged your immune response to at least Covid or, much worse, to coronaviruses generally.

PS: If you took the jabs and then got Covid anyway you have personal proof it happened to you.  The only remaining question in that case is how bad?

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Acebarefoot 1k posts, incept 2009-05-20
2022-09-07 10:54:38

This is called CYA.

They are beginning to drip out information so that they can come back later and say that they reported on it.

We all knew this was coming..... Watch for more to jump on the bandwagon as it becomes more obvious to the masses.
Media_guy 45 posts, incept 2021-10-15
2022-09-07 10:57:20

To this day I've never had a flu shot, and that greatly impacted my decision making to not have the Covid jab besides the fact that I had already had Covid in March of 2020.

Anecdotally, pretty much everyone I know who got the flu shot on a yearly basis got sick not too long after. And when I saw this happening with the Covid jabs, it only confirmed my initial belief that these shots are all useless.
Shadowmask 4k posts, incept 2021-05-24
2022-09-07 10:57:25

All of this in order to avoid taking responsibility for your own health. That is just sad.
Ocdawg 350 posts, incept 2019-03-14
2022-09-07 11:17:07

@ KD- "Nobody knows for sure and, as the story notes, that is the truth."


Question- what RATIONAL person would risk his/her health/LIFE if one doesn't know for sure what the final outcome of a jab would be?

Answer- One doesn't... one is coerced. Plain and simple. Call it TPTB, "medical advice", a cult, peer pressure... whatever.

Would love to hear/understand a rebuttal... I'll wait... (here's me for the last 2 1/2 years):

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didnt exist. -Verbal Kint, The Usual Suspects
Njca 217 posts, incept 2018-10-16
2022-09-07 11:17:23

Geert vanden Bossche was describing this from the very start.
Sapper 17 posts, incept 2022-01-29
2022-09-07 11:24:53

chief innovation officer at a children's hospital.....

Oxymoron if I ever heard one...
Jwm_in_sb 5k posts, incept 2009-04-16
2022-09-07 11:34:22

And this (OAS) is just ONE risk factor with the jabs. We still don't really know what's actually in them to be honest outside of some very tinny reports that I wont discuss here albeit may be real.
Kirklandguy 45 posts, incept 2022-02-14
2022-09-07 11:38:43

The slow drumbeat of articles saying exactly what was known (and said here) in mid-2020 continues, despite being labelled as "misinformation".
Orwell would be proud.
Veeger 683 posts, incept 2013-02-13
2022-09-07 11:38:58

Slowly at first...

Been waiting for this type of article. It starts as one or two, talking about, oh, you know, what SOME folks are saying about what COULD possibly, maybe happen.

Soon it's common and it's much more definitive.

Eventually, it's acknowledged that, Yeah, the jabs were a mistake.

Maybe one day, the last remaining mandates quietly get dropped. (I'm looking at YOU, Slo Joe and YOU Monsieur Fascist Turd-oh)

I remember the Diamond Princess.

Slowly at first, then all of a sudden.
Njca 217 posts, incept 2018-10-16
2022-09-07 11:56:16

The military has been instructed to only develop anti-tank defense capability. Here come waves of enemy bombers and missiles. The military responds by launching anti-tank weapons.
Craiglong 32 posts, incept 2019-12-02
2022-09-07 12:33:49


Geert continues to warn on the Omicron specific boosters.

Updated C-19 vaccines comprising new mRNA- or protein-derived S-associated sequences of one or more Omicron (sub)variants will only further deteriorate the already dire consequences of C-19 mass vaccinationabundant cell surface-expressed and/ or free circulating S protein will cause a unilateral and potentially protracted recall of IEABs without priming neutralizing Abs against new Omicron-specific antigenic sequences in the vast majority of healthy vaccinees.

Orangecrush 36 posts, incept 2018-09-29
2022-09-07 12:33:54

...and just like clockwork they are now scare-mongering the latest 'highly evasive' variant of Covid-19
Thombradley 210 posts, incept 2021-11-01
2022-09-07 13:14:38

I have had one flu shot in my life and that was because the company I was CFO at
the time had ajagoff head of HR convince the CEO to arrange free flu shots in the cafeteria for everyone and when everyone was assembling the CEO came into my office and said arent you going and I said no and he said how will that look so I capitulated Never again
Katniss99 144 posts, incept 2012-06-05
2022-09-07 13:14:50

Pfizer isn't sharing its vaccine details with researchers. Wonder why; could it be because it's full of crap and ingredients of death?
Eaandkw 81 posts, incept 2014-11-22
2022-09-07 13:15:10

I'm debating with myself on how I feel about this. A part of me wants the true believers to continue getting vaccines to clear out the gene pool. Once it becomes generally acceptable that these vaccines caused harm TPTB will figure out a way to tax me more than they already do to take care of the survivors.

Winding it down
Goldbrick 7k posts, incept 2008-01-23
2022-09-07 13:15:25

The fraudcasters are trying to cover their asses after taking money to suppress the truth. I hope some enterprising lawyers will sue the shit out of them, bankrupting the companies and each on-air shitbag who willingly misled the public.

"The higher I go, the crookeder it gets." --Michael Corleone
Kennington 319 posts, incept 2013-09-12
2022-09-07 13:17:03

I've long ago lost track of the number of spectacular articles Karl has put out on just this issue...the jab. Thanks again sir...

Not sure you can put the number of people you've literally saved from this type tyranny but you should be proud!!! I cant say thanks enough!!!!
T2 584 posts, incept 2008-11-17
2022-09-07 13:46:49

Hear hear! Ive said it before and Ill say it again. Karls Tickers on this subject since the Diamond Princess are the main drivers why I never got the jab, he was spot on from the start. I tired to convince friends not to do this for these very reasons, they all thought I was nuts. I tired to explain how the spike was a poor aspect to tie an entire immune response to, that it was the N part of the protein you wanted, and that natural immunity would be superior to the jabs. I was laughed at. Well, whos laughing now?


In California, no one can hear you scream.
Ewtnewbie2 200 posts, incept 2021-09-13
2022-09-07 14:19:31

The only thing missing from this blog post is the "I told you so" FLAG...
I missed it!!!
Avalanche 107 posts, incept 2022-02-12
2022-09-07 14:19:44

Goldbrick: each on-air shitbag who willingly misled the public

Except... its NOT illegal to get on TV and lie lie lie to get paid!
Brought to you by Pfizer!

I'm still trying to find a way to CONVINCE family and friends that even IF they got the shot, there are possible mediators to lesson the damage; to remove the spikes; no success so far...
Bzelbob 301 posts, incept 2021-09-12
2022-09-07 14:19:53

@Tickerguy - Bravo sir! Another outstanding piece! smiley

Just by coincidence(?), local news here proclaims just today: "It's time to get your annual flu vaccine".
Odds of that: Exactly ZERO-point-ZERO. smiley


I grow sick and tired of the same old lies
Might look a little young, so what's wrong?
You don't have to be old to be wise

No I don't care that the people stare
Accuse me of goin' mad
Just get a long hard look into the mirror
Then, tell me now who's been had

- Judas Priest

"Threats are illogical. And payment is usually expensive." - Sarek of Vulcan
Laurentz 74 posts, incept 2019-01-10
2022-09-07 14:20:16

I had a brief exchange with someone who manufactures the lipid encapsulation for mRNA vaccines. I didn't push and I am missing a lot of details, but he did say that yes in fact these lipid nanoparticles can be toxic since they are synthetic fats, with some of them very much toxic. The development of these lipids goes back easily 30+ years for use in all kinds of drug delivery research.

So I have no idea how toxic the current iteration of lipid encapsulation is, it is really out of my realm of expertise, but it also seemed clear he was also running on the assumption that all this stuff remains in the muscle tissue upon injection. Somewhere someone has this data from animal testing, I have seen a memo that indicates ours also winds up in the uterus to a degree.

Some of these fields can be highly siloed and in particular the end manufacturer of any substance in pharma is the one responsible for proving it is safe. It is akin to me manufacturing steel girders, I just prove they have certain mechanical strengths. It is up to the construction company to design and produce a building with them that can survive an earthquake. If one of their buildings collapses that is on them unless they can prove a defect in my steel.

I'm not letting my ship get shot out from under my ass! Open fire! - Captain Lindemann
Wd 58 posts, incept 2021-11-02
2022-09-07 14:21:59

And up here in the Great White we've got Trudy going on ...

"Trudeau Threatens Covid Restrictions if 80-90% of Canadians Not 'Up to Date' on Boosters."

"A whopping 12% of Canadians have had a 4th dose and PM Justin Trudeau is threatening more lockdowns if this number doesn't reach 80-90% by this fall."

The video of him just makes me want to spit.

Edwardteach 337 posts, incept 2021-05-01
2022-09-07 14:40:30

It was ADE/OAS that informed my decision NOT to take the jabs back in the fall of 2020, and it wasn't a particularly difficult decision to make. This was well before adverse events began to be reported, which reinforced that decision, but didn't actually inform it. I distinctly remember how it went too. Someone else asked the question: "What about ADE?" The response: "Oh ADE won't be a factor because we're only encoding for the spike protein!'. "Or really?" I thought..."and you know that will work, HOW EXACTLY??"

I didn't find this site until May of 2021. Somebody did a partial repost/link to Karl's "Science catches up..." article on another site and I tool one look at it and said holy shit! This is almost exactly what I've been thinking for the last year!

Know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with until you understand who's in ruttin command here.
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