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2022-09-06 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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It appears that Putin's government has announced that Nordstream I will not be restarted until western sanctions are lifted.

Russian natural gas supply via the Nord Stream pipeline to Germany will remain shut until the Western sanctions that impede gas turbine repairs are lifted, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Monday. 

The gas crisis in Europe took a turn for the worse at the end of last week, when Russian gas giant Gazprom said after three-day maintenance ended on Friday that Nord Stream would remain shut until “operational defects in the equipment are eliminated,” upping the ante in its gas war against Europe. 

As a reminder the pipeline had only one operational gas-turbine driven pump which, according to Gazprom, requires maintenance.  There are usually five of them available for service with a sixth held in reserve as a spare at that specific station through which the gas flows.

As things stand now there are no spares and one sort-of-operating one that was shut down as a result of a fault discovered during an inspection.  There are people saying that Russia could operate the one with the leak anyway but why does anyone believe there is any sort of duty to do so and shave the margins of safety?

There clearly is no such duty and, further, the gas is Russia's so if you think you have the right to sanction a nation and then demand they trade with you its rather obvious to me that your IQ is smaller than your shoe size.

For those who claim Russia is waging an "energy war" well, perhaps they are, but let's not forget the west is attempting to wage an economic one!

I've never in my life seen a "war" in which the people backing one side of it demand that the party on the other side continue to trade with them and not only that, but then attempt to put in price controls such that they demand not only the product but also what they pay for it.

Putin obviously thinks that's crazy.

Now the West and Europe in particular get to choose: Either drop the sanctions or you get no gas.

I fail to understand how this cannot be viewed as an entirely-reasonable position unless your view is that Russia has no right of national sovereignty at all, including the natural resources that lay within her border and those that transit same.

If that's your position -- that the West has the right to impose a political and economic structure on a sovereign government then just come out and say it.

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Frat 11k posts, incept 2009-07-15
2022-09-06 07:35:35

Stupid games have been played, with their corresponding prizes being distributed. Europe's going to implode when all the diversity they've been importing realizes its free ride is over.

I don't really give a rat's ass about Russia OR Ukraine, but seeing the smug oh-so-enlightened bitches whose defense we've been subsidizing for 75+ years get their comeuppance is rather satisfying.

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We're fucked. There will be no happy ending here; there is no going back to 'normal.'. There are only bad outcomes and worse outcomes. And we don't get to choose those, either.
Rickylc 2k posts, incept 2009-02-09
2022-09-06 07:35:51

The thought process is obvious insanity if continuation of normal civilization is the goal. This many people can't all be insane at the same time. Therefore, the goal is also obviously not the continuation of normal civilization, but rather, it's intentional destruction. It's working.

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We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Jwm_in_sb 5k posts, incept 2009-04-16
2022-09-06 07:35:55

That is precisely what they think. They also think that about you peronally as well.
Fumei 3k posts, incept 2019-01-08
2022-09-06 07:36:00

My position is that Putin and the other Russkis ought to stand steady and never yield.
Flyingscotsman 37 posts, incept 2012-02-27
2022-09-06 07:36:04

Is this really as simple and insane as it seems? Europe places sanctions on RUS and RUS responds with a gradual cessation of nat gas. Whereby Europe respond with "Nope. Send us our nat gas." Then "lolgf" from RUS.

Madness.

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post tenebras lux
Cmoledor 1k posts, incept 2021-04-13
2022-09-06 07:37:09

Fuck around and find out. How fitting.

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The whole world is one big fucking scam
Why are you giving a vulgarity warning here? Our genial host is an advocate of both skullfucking and sodomy via rusty chainsaw. Credit to Rollformer
Rickylc 2k posts, incept 2009-02-09
2022-09-06 07:46:07

While it may seem like gratifying schadenfreude watching Europe implode, remember, Klaus Schwab et al. want exactly the same thing, y'all are cheering on the New World Order and WEF plan. You are essentially on their side by doing so.

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We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Doctor.boom 2 posts, incept 2021-07-21
2022-09-06 07:47:32

The West is used to dealing with countries they could simply intimidate by The Military Might Of NATO into doing their will. Russia ain't one of those countries, and NATO has been revealed to be a paper tiger in any case.

So freeze faster, Euroweenies - OR, break out the torches and pitchforks and make your "governments" tell Brandon to shove it up his diapered backside
Thelazer 1k posts, incept 2009-05-11
2022-09-06 07:47:35

How sad is it, that Putins got bigger balls than our own.
Greenacr 623 posts, incept 2016-03-15
2022-09-06 08:16:04

What's happening in Europe with Natural Gas will soon be happening to California with Electricity. In their effort to be green California is rushing to shut down its electrical generation capability and they will have a similar future of not having enough "fuel" to run their economy or for their population to heat/cool their homes.

We need Europe and California to really suffer from these mistakes. It has to be extremely painful and many need to die and be impacted. It's our only hope to reverse this course of green stupidity.
Elkad 2k posts, incept 2009-09-04
2022-09-06 08:16:18

Rickylc, part of that is the forlorn hope that own people will see this demonstration of idiocy and change their path...

I predict an essential bridge carrying Russian coal to the EU will have major structural failures detected that mandate immediate closure very soon.
Boredfree 668 posts, incept 2021-09-15
2022-09-06 08:16:30

This reminds me of something... oh, yeah, the gay assholes who took a baker to court to force him to bake a wedding cake. Good thing I wasn't the baker or it would have been an almond flavored cake which would have taken care of the whole wedding party...

Our Karen culture truly believes they can force others to do their bidding. They worry about the feelz (their's, not those who are forced to comply). They carry around a giant purse full of expectations that others NEED to be a certain way...

Why don't we force Russia to give Ukraine weapons to use against Russia. Isn't this about the same level of expectation we have regarding Russian fuel stocks?

I can't believe people actually think like this.

Ahhh, but then I recall what the past couple of years have been like...

Give me an order of dem freedom fries with my hamburger, a few shots of today's vaxx, a subscription to stream woke media and a sex change. Everything will be fine!

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The problem is most people want to point a finger rather than their thumb when dealing with challenges.
Whitehat 10k posts, incept 2017-06-27
2022-09-06 08:16:44

A Smith & Wesson beats four Aces.

Something slipped out in Karl's article, Russia's most basic fear.

Russia knows that the Western world considers it a tool. The early use for Russia was as a buffer to the Mongols. They have always been considered lesser Europeans by the upper classes. Russians aspire to live much higher and more elegantly which explains some of their breathtaking public works and personal discipline to master European pursuits of many kinds. Russia also knows that the rest of Europe did not care for the longest time what happened to them in any world event. Yes, this is a lot of summarizing to make the point, fill in the details as you ponder history. Russia was used to keep the communists busy and out of Europe's socialist paradise. Then for fun we drove them into bankruptcy during the cold war, undercut them in energy sales and then in the chaos of their fall in the early 90s worked with their worst elements to exploit the place and hold them back for another two decades of misery.

This mentality which has a lot of roots in Anglo culture allows for the colonization of lesser peoples and assumptions of the higher culture exploiting said's resources and even people.

There is an unconscious assumption that what Russia has belongs to them anyway.

Yes, it is illogical.

Human behavior is not logical; it is purposeful. Even at a near unconscious level or cultural, the Anglo imperialistic justification, it applies.

Simply because Great Britain gave up a powerful naval method of ruling other lands does not mean that it stopped. Nor did we, or even sectors of Europe.

We in the Anglo world morphed into passive aggressive, world stage manipulators with some others doing the dirty work, usually our underclasses and areas where we bomb the hell out of sand with minimal losses to ourselves transforming entire civilizations to the stone age. The smug Europeans evidenced most recently in a video posted here of a Trump speech are the ultimate symbol of wimpy smartasses formed for playing this game.

The Ukraine is just another center of high IQ economic manipulation and corruption. It is not the problem, just another example of the network which declares war not by weapon but by the pen. No different than a European bank, or a USA financial scam, allies are not by mutual protection treaty but by graft networks binding all partners.

They steal with intrigue, no longer the sword.

And, Russia has had enough.

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smiley Je souhaite
Dvanderp71 671 posts, incept 2007-08-05
2022-09-06 08:17:21

Im in the midst of this and its clear to me from the onset that this is not insanity but intent. The great reset is to be brought about by deliberate inflation.

Theyre not chipping away at the bases of our economy theyre literally blasting away at it.
Because you may not be ready to accept their plans now but once everybody is cold and hungry the people will probably agree to everything. Its happening before our eyes but people sit by staring like a rabbit in the headlights.
Some even like the political reasoning of that the past excess of energy, farm products, materials and people were all very bad things.
Thats imho where the real stupidity is.
Prof_dilligaf 401 posts, incept 2021-09-02
2022-09-06 08:17:28

Let me help out the planet by doing a little recycling (of my own comments):

THESE ARE THE WORST KIND OF SANCTIONS, THEY'RE AGAINST US!!!!!!! - EU retards
Leahnnovash 13 posts, incept 2022-03-11
2022-09-06 08:17:33

@Rickylc WEF and Klaus need Europe not to merely implode, but to implode in a very specific and limited way. The way things are going his WEF puppets heads are gonna be unseated, hopefully some literally so. That's gonna throw a wrench in his plans unless they all go full blown tyrant all at once. They're preparing for that, lots of facial recognition this, social credit that cropping up in Europe right now. But I have hope that some of the blood of the Crusaders still run in the old continent.
Guerin 121 posts, incept 2021-09-26
2022-09-06 08:21:40

If these people were the crew of the Titanic, the lifeboats would never have even been uncovered, they would have just told the engineers the ship was unsinkable and full speed ahead before going back to the smoking room.

Winter is coming and despite copious production of hot gas, the words of Europes politicians will not keep people warm nor the lights on. What on earth do these people think will happen in about a month when it starts getting cold again?
Flappingeagle 4k posts, incept 2011-04-14
2022-09-06 08:39:10

The Lefty-Green-Word Salad crew has finally run into a combination that they could not bully and get their way. The combination is Putin plus physics. Putin knows what is going on and obviously knows how to stop it cold.

Everyone above is correct, it is the Leftists who are totalitarian, they just present their agenda as being just the opposite.

Flap

P.S. Word Salad is the term I use to describe a situation where the speaker(s) are using all the popular buzzwords and terms to obfuscate a position that is short on facts and logic and long on bullshit.

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Here are my predictions for everyone to see:
S&P 500 at 320, DOW at 2200, Gold $300/oz, and Corn $2/bu.
No sign that housing, equities, or farmland are in a bubble- Yellen 11/14/13
Trying to leave
Dingleberry 500 posts, incept 2011-11-06
2022-09-06 08:41:50

Europe got itself in a jam.

For the last several decades they made a deal with the devil to be vassals of the US in return for their defense taken care of, so they can have their socialist freebies. The EU was developed as a way to herd the cats, place those little pip-squeak countries underneath it. But it is simply a front for Berlin. The euro is the old DM in drag.

Now look at the Euro-USD exchange rate. The Euro is at multiyear lows against the dollar. That tells me all I need to know. The US is in terrible shape, but Europe is even worse.

I imagine Vlad made enough money on them to pay for his adventures, and now is pulling on their short hairs.

Hope they have fun in the cold and dark. They voted for it. Arrogantly so, I might add.


Synopsis 55 posts, incept 2010-02-05
2022-09-06 08:53:39

What ever happened to Nord Stream 2? I was thinking it was fully functional, but wasnt able to be certified due to political reasons. If there was any incentive to fire it up and fast track the certificate, the could probably do it in relatively short order.

Where did everyone logically think this strategy was going to take them? Europe is in no position to negotiate - period. That is reality.

Disgusted 418 posts, incept 2021-07-20
2022-09-06 08:53:53

I'll bet the elite scumbags in Brussels won't be in Brussels this winter. They'll be trying to "run things" from someplace in the southern hemisphere. Good luck ever going back. If the Euroweenies have any balls left, Brussels will look like Dresden in 1945. One thing you can count on from a leftist dimwit is the "entitled" attitude. Expecting the enemy you're actually at war with to supply you with energy at a price you demand is the ultimate in entitled idiocy. Putin should give the fuckheads an ultimatum and announce it to the entire world. Either give up the eastern portion of Ukraine that we decide where the new border is and end the war, or you don't get any energy direct from us EVER AGAIN, PERIOD. You can pay the Chinese 5 times as much for LNG that came from us anyway, so fuck off.
Winesorbet 637 posts, incept 2010-08-23
2022-09-06 08:54:03

I love how European governments think they can print their way out of this and the markets believe it, for now.
Joancrawford 358 posts, incept 2013-10-14
2022-09-06 09:14:16

The European people have been sleepwalking into the NWO since the end of WW2. The European elite and the American Zionists are quite up front about how they view Russia: A gas station masquerading as a country. Whitehat has it about right. The European elite view the Russians as garbage, similar to how the English view the Irish-peasants to be dominated, tortured, and slaughtered.

"We will fight to the last Ukranian!" Well, that about says it right there. The greenies are merely a tool, and an ignorant one at that, to be used as were the brown shirts-a means to an end, and then discarded. Putin said it best-The West is adamant about their being a one world, uni polar world. He sees the future as a multi-polar world.

If you listen to what they say, it's all spelled out quite clearly. Macron of France said, "The age of abundance is over!" Their intent is to starve and freeze the masses into living in hovels and eating insects-own nothing and be happy.

In order to understand the mind of a monster, you must first get inside of their heads. They view anyone who is not nobility as inferior, unfit to breath air. Hence we have the "globull warming" bullsh*t. Carbon is good. Makes things grow. But their story line is that we've got to "stop carbon emissions"-for the good of the planet, doncha know?

Let's see, we ARE carbon, and they want to get rid of carbon. Do ya get it YET? We're not exactly talking rocket science here.

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Don't f*ck with me fellas! This ain't my first time at the rodeo.

America-it was a good run while it lasted. RIP!
Leahnnovash 13 posts, incept 2022-03-11
2022-09-06 09:14:38

@Synopsis They expected Ukraine to win the war thanks to NATO's backing, and Putin being ousted from power.
Then they would have installed a pro-WEF puppet and own the Russian gas.
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