@Darqfybr

Nice roadhouse quote in your signature block. Solid.

Twainfan2 wrote..

@heartlander they can talk until they are blue in the face but that doesnt mean they will act. Think about, youre going to tell 300+ million Americans they cant own property? Half a billion guns would come out and pointed at everyone in charge. Theyd all be dead before they could blink. And thats just in the US. They dont have a large enough army let alone an army willing to enforce their ideas. Its all just conspiracy bs

You can't be serious with this. Forget the whole Great Reset thing. Forget every single topic that Chesco posted. What you said requires nothing more than a deep dive of American history of the 20th century.

Do you really believe what you posted above? Really? I don't even need to approach a refutation of this based on historical events, if truth be told. No George Mason up through the Militia Act, or parsing JIT systems, or the Hepburn Act's deleterious effects on rail, ergo resilience.

Look at the average American today. They're fat, lazy, and many are armed and would have ZERO ability to survive a few months. I don't need to bring up issues with ammo limits. Or the fact that many of them have the skills outside the range of a Wal-Mart greeter...not that there's ANYTHING wrong with said greeters. God bless them.

Do you know how many ex-DoD contractors have war-gamed this very scenario since GWOT? Maybe I haven't made myself crystal clear in my last 14 years of articles and opinions. When I say that if we don't hold the perps accountable and right damn soon, and that we're potentially at a civilization ending cycle, I am dead serious.

This is not hyperbole, and we don't need tinfoil. Who cares whether or not there's a Great Reset. We're resetting ourselves!

@erj

So what exactly do you think you're buying here? Atcc.org/products/vr-3342hk

ERJ

Having had both H1N1 and CV19, they are different.

The H1N1 was much worse for me, but I never lost my sense of smell. With CV I lost it for three weeks completely, and took months for it to return completely

Yep. I'm reasonably sure what I had in early 2020 was H1N1. It definitely was not Covid; having had both they're very different.

H1N1 was worse, by the way.

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@Mosaik they know how long it takes to manufacture so its quite easy for them to give out a timeframe of when the new versions will be ready.

As for why the mandates, ass covering is still happening. Politicians are stupid and malicious. Pharma has lots more money to make off you. Hospitals as well. They found a new source of power and money and they are going to ride that horse till its dead and the flesh rotted off the bone if they can.

On the depopulation being a deliberate strategy. A while back I posted something to the effect of, this doesn't pass the logic test, because we are in a debt-based consumer economy. You kill off even 10% of the consumers, and the whole thing collapses.

There would need to be something lined up to replace the current economic system, or else the collapse would suck in everyone including the elites and their yachts, which as you say don't run so great without all kind of just-in-time replacement parts.

Actual loss in USA population due to non-deliberate factors, i.e. people not having kids combined with excess mortality due in part to jabs is IMO still a distinct probability.

@Stoic

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I am tiring of every death that is "sudden or unexplained" being blamed on the vaxx. People die every day and have since time began. It is not a new phenomenon.

True. And we will ALL go eventually. 100% chance.

When I saw Betty White died, the first thing I thought of was "...well she was 99 so...".
Doesn't mean she didn't get vaxx injured, but the odds of her going were certainly a lot higher than some 18 year old going.

This table shows that Betty, at 99, would be expected to only enjoy about 2 more years (if I read it right), give or take at her age anyway.
https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.....

Things to check on 'sudden death': Age, Occupation, Weight, Existing diseases & Health level, etc..
Because a 400lb person of *any* age is more likely to go. Morbidities, you know.

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"Threats are illogical. And payment is usually expensive." - Sarek of Vulcan

@Sane

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The city of Washington D.C. has just implemented a vaccine passport requirement, starting this Saturday 15 January 2022.
https://coronavirus.dc.gov/vaxdc

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!!

@tickerguy
"@Heartlander - May I remind you that the Australians all give up their guns.

How'd that work out?"

My wife is a nonshooter but this was the same comment she made. BTW she does support my reloading, bullet casting & shooting habit. Told me " don't give up any of your guns and do you need any more bullet moulds

Good to be among friends

Someone mentioned Okaloosa County a few days ago in reference to a wall of shame medical insitution. Similar to anecdotal evidence of an unknown respiratory infection in Virginia in late 2019 there is anecdotal evidence of Sars-Cov2 in Okaloosa County in late summer, fall of 2019. ask around - did you know anyone with a lingering illness around the time of Thanksgiving 2019? anyone lose their sense of taste or smell?

Pattern recognition is not always the best path forward, unless you own the projector. Let us wait a few days to a week to asses the PV document.

Karl, do you think when Rand Paul goes after Fauci those are the documents he's using as evidence? Or other documents? I don't watch the hearings, just see whatever 'highlights' make more news. Seems Rand Paul could be more specific than I've seen his questioning.

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That which flourishes can only do so within a conducive environment - (me)

Stoic-I hope this is on point. I am tiring of every death that is "sudden or unexplained" being blamed on the vaxx. People die every day and have since time began. It is not a new phenomenon. Two years ago we didn't think twice about it but now there is an almost immediate chorus of "he was double, triple vaxxed" so that's what killed him. We need to stop this. It makes us look like fringe kooks. Yes the vaxx is killing some people but not everyone. Do not give the bastards ammunition to label us us unhinged lunatics.

Awaiting down votes.

No down votes from me. I agree wholeheartedly. We have to be careful not to point the finger at every sudden death that occurs. For example, the rumor that Betty White and Bob Saget died as a result of the booster. Holy Jesus F*cking Tap Dancing Kee-ryst, the woman was 99 years old going on 100, same age as my MIL who turns (we hope) 102 in February. As for Saget, he appeared to be in reasonably good shape. Who knows? At 65, while not technically old, he was at an age where past sins (boozing, drugs, promiscuity, etc) might have caught up with him-not saying that was the case for him, but as someone not too much younger than him, I cannot carry on like I did when I was in my 20s or 30s, nor would I want to. Hell, I'm usually in bed by 11 pm, and it's not because there's some hot stud muffin waiting for me there.

Could these "sudden deaths" be a result of the clot shot? Maybe. At least keep your mouth shut until after the f*cking autopsies are performed-and even THEN I'd suggest keeping quiet-hint, I'm not always great at taking my own advice, but I try. I can only offer my own observations as to the efficacy of the injections. I have a soon to be 34 year old niece whom I love dearly. Along with my siblings , I helped put her through college using the inheritance left to us by our dad. I have received no thanks from her, an RN, who just got diagnosed with covid, not sure if she received the booster. She got her first injection AFTER getting covid last year. (I know, DUMB, right? And this so that she could enter bars and restaurants in California). But I have a lot of friends and relatives who have received the shots and have not heard a single one complain about serious ill effects.

It will make me very sad if something bad happens to them, but hey, you decide to roll the dice with this thing, you have to accept the results. This past year I reread Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery", whereby a small New England town gathers to "win" a lottery, the "prize" being elusive until the very end. Spoiler alert*-one of the townswomen, who freely chose to participate in the lottery objects when she "wins". I see many parallels with this story and what we are experiencing now. Out of the entire town, Tessie was the only one who drew the "bad card". When she found out, she protests that the whole f*cking thing wasn't fair.

If the "game" wasn't fair, why did you decide to "play" in the first place? Was it because everybody else was doing it? Was it "fashionable to do so? Peer pressure? Whatever, you accept the consequences of the actions you take in life. That was the lesson of that short story. Very apropos to our current situation I'd surmise.

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Time may be a great healer, but it's a lousy beautician.-Dorothy Parker

Boys don't make passes at girls with fat asses.-slightly modified DP

Tickerguy wrote..

@Heartlander - May I remind you that the Australians all give up their guns.

How'd that work out?

I've known two Australians that became US citizens. One of the first things they each did was go out and purchase firearms.

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Were never going to learn how safe the vaccine is unless we start giving it, and thats just the way it goes.
Dr. Eric Rubin, Harvard University

Understorylawyer wrote..

Also, I read somewhere (I wish I could give it attribution) that the chance of keeping something secret decreases exponentially by the number of people who know it, which makes sense. The only way there could be a coordinated conspiracy is an incredibly small number of people were able to set up weird incentives for the institutions and people to destroy themselves.

I believe it was Ben Franklin that said: Three may keep a secret if two are dead.

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Were never going to learn how safe the vaccine is unless we start giving it, and thats just the way it goes.
Dr. Eric Rubin, Harvard University

Zappafan wrote..

On the depopulation being a deliberate strategy. A while back I posted something to the effect of, this doesn't pass the logic test, because we are in a debt-based consumer economy. You kill off even 10% of the consumers, and the whole thing collapses.

Here's how I can respond, to the best of my ability.

It's immaterial that there is the existence or non-existence of a WEF. Or Davos. Or Bilderberg or whatever. It always made me laugh. Why? Because obviously Lord Acton was right and history shows us that time and time again, the seven deadly sins are ever-present in Man. In Discourses on Livy, Machiavelli stated something so self-evident that the statement itself, let alone the lesson he was teaching, is lost to time every century.

Always and everywhere one can predict the outcome of a republic. Why? Because times and technology changes, but the passions of Man never do.

Thrasymachus took it one step further for the uber-cynical and said that always and everywhere, all governments assembled by Man have only the interest of the stronger (themselves) in mind.

Let me sum it up this way: There will always be evil men. There will always be intelligent, narcissistic, evil men. There will always be intelligent, narcissistic, evil men who believe that they will build the Tower of Babel and overcome God.

They always fail. But the question we need to ask is: Do we have the courage to halt it, or will we outsource it to someone like Putin? If the former, we would experience great economic fallout from it. Healthcare alone is ~20% of GDP. How much of GDP is service-based?

If the latter, then no amount of guns and ammo will help the average Murican from graduating from the tactical to the strategic or operational level.

And that's all I have to say about that. :)

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The city of Washington D.C. has just implemented a vaccine passport requirement, starting this Saturday 15 January 2022.

Attention Citizen. You must be fully vaccinated to protest vaccination mandates. Only the fully vaccinated may object to the vaccines. Once everyone is fully vaccinated we can end the vaccine mandates. That is all, you may return to your authorized activities.

Sorry if this has already been posted...just noticed off project Veritas website. this issue is gaining traction.

JANUARY 13, 2022
Congressional Members send letter to CDC, Secretaries of Defense and Health and Human Services demanding answers on COVID-19 origin and DARPA documents revealed by Project Veritas reporting





[WASHINGTON DC- January 13, 2022] Members of both chambers of Congress have sent scathing letters to government officials seeking answers in the aftermath of military documents uncovered by Project Veritas which revealed a proposal from EcoHealth Alliance to research bat-borne coronaviruses that was rejected by DARPA and a potential cover-up of those documents.

Madison Cawthorn, Bill Posey, Diana Harshbarger, Lisa McClain, Randy Weber, and Matt Gaetz sent letters to Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky and HHS Secretary Beccerra asking them to confirm if the explosive documents were indeed hidden in a top-secret share drive.


The letter from members of Congress comes on the heels of a similar inquiry made by Senator Ron Johnson:

On January 10, 2022, Project Veritas published an August 2021 disclosure from U.S. Marine Corps Major Joseph Murphy concerning the origins of COVID-19. According to the document, Major Murphy sent the disclosure to the Department of Defense (DoD) Office of the Inspector General (OIG) for investigation. It is my understanding that the disclosure was subsequently referred by the DoD OIG to the DoDs Research and Engineering office for further investigation.

According to the Majors disclosure, EcoHealth Alliance (EcoHealth), in conjunction with the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), submitted a proposal in March 2018 to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) regarding SARS-CoVs. The proposal included a program, called DEFUSE, that sought to use a novel chimeric SARS-CoV spike protein to inoculate bats against SARS-CoVs. Although DARPA rejected the proposal, the disclosure alleges that EcoHealth ultimately carried out the DEFUSE proposal until April 2020 through the National Institutes of Health and National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases. The disclosure highlights several potential treatments, such as ivermectin, and specifically alleges that the EcoHealth DEFUSE proposal identified chloroquine phosphate (Hydroxychloriquine) and interferon as SARS-CoV inhibitors.

Johnson went on to cite Project Veritas report while setting a January 25th deadline for the recipients of the letter to respond to the following questions:

1. Did the office of Research and Engineering receive a copy of the enclosed disclosure from the DoD OIG? If so, please provide the date it received the complaint.

2. Has the office of Research and Engineering or another DoD component initiated an investigation of the allegations in the disclosure? If so, explain what investigative steps have been taken thus far. If not, please explain why not.

3. Has the office of Research and Engineering or another DoD component interviewed or spoken with the U.S. Marine Corps Major who drafted the disclosure? If so, when? If not, please explain why not.

4. Does DoD intend to create a written investigate report or any other document based on its investigation of allegations contained in the disclosure? If so, please provide a copy of those documents. If not, please explain why not.

Senator Johnson went on to request a briefing on the findings of any investigation into documents obtained by Project Veritas while requesting to speak with U.S. Marine Corps Major, Joseph Murphy, to discuss his disclosure as soon as possible.

Read Representatives' Madison Cawthorn, Bill Posey, Diana Harshbarger, Lisa McClain, Randy Weber, and Matt Gaetz full letter here.
Read Senator Ron Johnsons full letter here.

Someone up the thread posted "Greed" as a rationale for all this. I think that is on point.

Even the mandates trace back to greed. Most of the companies pushing them have federal contracts, or take $$ from the gubmint. Biden figured out that rather than have them legally authorized by legislation, he could use the threat of withholding federal monies to coerce the private sector. Also he panicked during the Delta wave, that showed his ineptitude in handling the virus and that he is no better than OMB. Better to be seen doing "something" vs. nothing. Jabs in arms is an easy metric to track and claim "I'm doing something."

Foolish Airline CEOs also mandated jabs for their workforce thinking it would save the industry. None of them cared a whit about civil rights or the right to make personal medical decisions. They all thought it was best for the bottom line, of course now we know better. How many pilots are dead from jabs causing heart attacks? How much has been lost in terms of having to now pay higher wages to replace them?

I have predicted all along that there would be a point in the pandemic when saving the "e-CON-omy" would be prioritized over public health. I reckon we passed that point in the summer of 2020. The fact that the virus has a mind of its' own and mother nature bats last has ruined that plan, but it is still the only thing they've got. It would not surprise me in the least if by spring the CDC simply shuts down their COVID response teams, stops tracking numbers and declares victory. Sort of like the French declaring victory after Hitler rolls through Paris.

I don't blame folks for falling into Tin or conspiracy land. It is easy to do when we are constantly being lied to by the "authorities." The best thing to do is ignore everything they say or assume it to be false information. Use Ticker forum as your source of truth.

Edit: @Joancrawford - no downvote from me. It is always a good idea to be skeptical of extraordinary claims. But I would point you to the uncorrelated data sets that show excess mortality running 40% higher than baseline in 18-49 year olds. There are some threads on it in the Bar; not sure if you have access to them. If not reply back and I will post some data in this part of the forum.

Edit2: Heck let me just link it here and save you the trouble.

https://web.archive.org/web/202201122246....

Heartlander wrote..

I agree that those who see themselves as Masters of the Universe NEED the proles who produce their food, energy, and other goods.

So why the FUCK are they barging ahead with policies (specifically, the vaxx mandates) that are causing massive job losses and whole sectors of the economy to grind to a halt? (Not just from workers quitting over the mandates, but also workers dying or getting permanently disabled
by the shots.)

Productivity and production are going down, down, down. And yet TPTB keep pushing. Children are getting more and more dysfunctional and fewer of this abused generation will grow up to be capable, productive workers. And yet TPTB keep pushing. I don't get it.

Whatever the reason that it is being pushed, would you really stop if you don't believe that production will go to zero? Does it matter to the ultra rich if food and such go up in price?

I agree that it doesn't make sense to ME, but I'm not an asshole that is pushing this crap either. If people are going along with it all, and they are, what provides a reason to stop?

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Were never going to learn how safe the vaccine is unless we start giving it, and thats just the way it goes.
Dr. Eric Rubin, Harvard University

@Tickerguy

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Why do you bend the knee?

Because in the end you'll sell your HEALTH for eating out in a restaurant?

The problem is not restaurants but what we know comes next: EVERY indoor space including grocery stores. See Lithuania. They mean to starve us into submission.

Speaking of crazy....

SCOTT ADAMS has gone off the deep end

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/stat....

Re: the question of what the "viruses aren't real" folks think. You can find some videos on BitChute about it. They believe that viruses are just cellular waste products that exist internally in the body and don't spread from person to person.

There's something called "Terrain Theory" they promote that says that all the diseases come from inside the body.

Even if this were true, why they think the so-called "cellular waste" can't spread is beyond me.

They use a video of a moldy strawberry and claim it's breaking down due to internal bacteria and not an external germ. Even though you can clearly see the mold on the strawberry.

They'll then often yell at people who talk about something like ivermectin or budesonide because even saying this means you are a pharma shill and believe in the hoax.

I'm all for alternative remedies but there are times a drug is genuinely safe and effective.

@Tickerguy - True but there have also been some people in those circles that have spoken out such as those that signed the Great Barrington Declaration but they have been mostly censored. So I need to add the mass media and big tech to the list of coconspirators. It seems these two groups are not in the same circles as the politicians, scientists, and medical doctors. Why would they also go along?

I think many in positions of power and / or wealth took this opportunity to push their agenda and for the Left, they saw this as an opportunity to push through policies that they could never get implemented during "normal" times. The media and big tech are mostly led by Left-wingers so it was natural for them to go along with the politics behind the Covid response as their political goals were aligned.

Also, people who attain great wealth or positions of power often believe that they have been given a special place in the universe. They were divinely or appointed by nature for greatness and glory so like the pharaohs in ancient Egypt, they want to build their own pyramids as a testimony that they are "gods", that they contributed to better humanity, and that their legacy will live forever. This is the classic human condition and folly and can be dangerous especially in those with great wealth or power as they have a great deal of influence. It is a false sense of pride, which is why they almost never admit to a mistake. I think this hubris of many of our leaders has also contributed to the failed and disastrous response to Covid.

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I pretty much think everything can be explained by two things, greed and incompetence.

That, and the subsequent need to cover up what they did when it all goes horribly wrong. "Incompetence" is a word that needs some clarification - incompetent at what? The CDC is certainly incompetent at addressing legitimate public health concerns from infectious diseases, but exceptionally competent at shoveling money around to people playing with fire and protecting their own funding and importance. They - like almost every leftist infested institution - are also exceptionally incompetent at doing their part to preserve civilization.

That's the real incompetence we see in so many of our institutions. They all operate more or less on the assumption they can do whatever they want and enact whatever change they like and everything else will just stay the same. Then when something doesn't, and they realize they'll be prosecuted, sued, or maybe even just lynched if word ever got out, they have to work together to cover it up.