Ckaminski wrote..

Traelin: cuz men have been doing a bang up job governing the past 100 years?

Discounting a woman just because she's a woman is bullshit.

Did you even read the entirety of what I wrote? What, are you gonna argue that Man ISN'T naturally more inclined toward reason and logic than Woman? Jeebus, that's a fact. We complement each other. Woman helps Man with Mercy. Man helps Woman with Justice/Reason. In totality, we are the true embodiment of the Father.

Point out ANY civilization where a woman bailed a superpower out of a Fourth Turning Crisis. I'll be waiting. Now, does that mean it couldn't happen? Of course it doesn't. But it's a game of probability as well as learning from history.

And who said men did a great job the last 100 years? Men allowed themselves to be castrated by soccer moms. How many times have you told yourself when you're about to argue with your wife, "Hrm, lose the battle, win the war." How's that working out on a national level? Those losses add up on the scoreboard.

Yeah, I predict that won't change until the soccer moms are hungry and the alphas tell the women and the beta men to sit down, STFU, and let the big boys fix things.

Do you really doubt the above?

@Traelin0


Red meat for the discussion. Offered without endorsement, condemnation, nor comment.

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Diversity + proximity = WAR

-They wanted camps; I want ropes.

Maybe I should try commenting before I read all the comments. So much valuable information here.

To my friend Ryan, if you made it this far, you have definitely been red pilled again!

As far as predictions, the stock market is going to crash in a big way. It has to right? No way it can keep going straight up, all the time.

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Use your Ticker Balls
SAY NO TO SUGAR!

"God help you if you overpaid and it wasn't a lateral move." Right on, TG! And consider that transaction costs of selling a home make it a slightly less than even lateral move. If you can swing it, house price arbitrage can work in your favor, that is, sell in a high priced market and buy in a low priced market. More doable if you are not bound to high-priced markets for employment. WFH to the rescue, as long as it holds?

@Crossthread

"Mu opinion on "DeSantis", be Very careful what you wish for. While being *Strong* against the Rabid, venomous Liberal Left, He also strike's Me as a "right-wing" Messiah, Capable of starting a shooting War, then asking questions Later."

DeSantis is 150% Zionist. I suppose that that demographic is a big portion of his base.

Some may like that. I do not.

I am an America Firster in that context.

@Traelin,

"Point out ANY civilization where a woman bailed a superpower out of a Fourth Turning Crisis."

I don't have a dog in this fight, but just off the top of my head, Elizabeth I of England and Catherine the Great of Russia were two of the greatest, most intelligent, most successful sovereigns of all time.

Isabella of Spain also was no dog.

Smokeyblonde13 wrote..

The question regarding real estate when things go south (and they will) is while Blackrock, Gates, et al allegedly "own" all sorts of property - can they defend that ownership? Especially on a large-scale basis? A few dedicated and resourceful folks all over the country would give lie to the alleged ownership, cause you don't own what you don't possess and can't defend.

@Smokeyblonde13

There are three sets of laws that might bite them in the ass:
(1) Adverse Possession [AKA "Squatter's Rights"],
(2) Absentee Landlord laws,
(3) Fraud laws (the money that BlackRock is using to buy everything up is, quite arguably, fraud in origin and in fact).

The real problem is the subversion of the Judiciary and "law enforcement".

@Smacktle

Quote:

the stock market is going to crash in a big way. It has to right?

Of course it will. Eventually. I don't know when. It has been not crashing for a very long time now.

Mosaik wrote..

I don't have a dog in this fight, but just off the top of my head, Elizabeth I of England and Catherine the Great of Russia were two of the greatest, most intelligent, most successful sovereigns of all time.

Absolutely, and Catherine helped bail us out during the Revolution. Now put her in the middle of the Bolshevik Revolution, on either side. How'd it have gone?

But discounting the above and just for the sake of argument: Make a list of the greatest female leaders during crises, all-time greats. I'd list Cleopatra up there. Maggie Thatcher was great but she was riding the coattails of a post-WW2 wave, even with the terrible inflation.

Then make yourself a list of the men. Start by canceling out yours above with GEN Washington, Marcus Aurelius, and Cincinnatus.

Based on raw numbers, which one lends to a greater probability of what we need?

@Sane,

Maybe the stock market is crashing right now.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/december-....

Its December 1999 Based on the NYSE Shares Touching New Lows

Vildana Hajric
Mon, December 27, 2021

Last week, when the S&P 500 closed at a 52-week high, 334 companies trading on the New York Stock Exchange hit a 52-week low, more than double the amount that marked new one-year highs. Thats happened only three other times in history -- all of them in December 1999, according to Ramsey, who is chief investment officer for Leuthold Group.

And its not just a one-week phenomenon: NYSE new lows now also outnumber new highs on a six-week moving-average basis. The last time that happened as the S&P 500 hit a one-year high was in July 2015, right before a six-month correction that saw the index lose around 14%.

Few things stir agita for traders like comparisons to 1999 crash times. But Ramsey says that his analysis doesnt mean a correction is imminent. The smoothed-out six-week moving-average condition happened several times throughout 1999 up until March 24, 2000, when it proved to be the final nail in the coffin.

The trouble is these warnings can persist for several months before the blue chips finally take a hit, he said.

Puerto Rico is a giant C.F. due to the hysterical, paranoid crazies in government:
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/how-t....
how to make the hospitals (and the rest of the island while you're at it) a mess

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"The higher I go, the crookeder it gets." --Michael Corleone

@Traelin0
@Eleua

I've heard it said,

Men: Created to do all the things.
Women: Created to make more men.

Change my mind.

Quote:

I don't have a dog in this fight, but just off the top of my head, Elizabeth I of England and Catherine the Great of Russia were two of the greatest, most intelligent, most successful sovereigns of all time.

Isabella of Spain also was no dog.

Or...

Let's change the the focus of the question every so slightly.

I'm sure we can all agree that it's the very nature of a bell curve for there to be exceptional individuals at either end at any given time.
Let's play the game of "throw out the extremes" and focus on the main mass.

With that in mind, let's change the question to:

Make a list of significant civilizations in the entirety of recorded human history that did NOT spiral into a flaming crater of socialism within a handful of generations of giving their women the vote.

How long is that list?


Consider the 19th. It would appear that we are right on-track and on-time with what history tells us we should expect.

Mexico To End Oil Exports In 2023

By Charles Kennedy - Dec 29, 2021, 10:30 AM CST

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/....

The export phase-out announcement was made by the chief executive of Pemex, Octavio Romero, who also said that Mexico would reduce oil exports from next year by more than 50 percent, to 435,000 bpd.

Currently, Mexico is the third-largest oil exporter in the Americas, after the United States and Canada, according to data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

The main destinations for its crude are its northern neighbors in North America and China, India, and South Korea, as well as European countries. A cut in exports could make some of these importers look for alternative suppliers.

If Mexico indeed stops exporting crude oil, this will hit U.S. Gulf Coast refiners hard as it will cut off yet another source of heavy oil, for which their refineries have been configured. Another major source of heavy crude used to be Venezuela, but U.S. sanctions against Caracas ended the flow of heavy Venezuelan crude to the Gulf Coast.

According to the Bloomberg report, there are also doubts about Pemexs own capacity of refining all of its crude oil output. A long period of underinvestment in refinery maintenance has reduced operating capacity significantly, and it is questionable whether the state energy giant would be able to turn things around in just two years.

Pemex is currently the most indebted oil company in the world despite major efforts by the Lopez Obrador government to support it through tax breaks and other debt-relief measures

@HungryLion

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Maybe the stock market is crashing right now.

One can hope. And I am hoping! It can't come soon enough. But I will be patient.

@Traelino:

I am not interested in this kind of "argument."
Your views are obvious.

As for "what we need," I don't see anyone on the horizon of any sex or gender, other than RFK Jr.

And I don't think he is interested.

@Keenan and others re:housing
Many have been reporting (as cited here) not only immediate sales, cash, above asking price, but also those places sitting empty.
You all have probably seen this or something similar, regarding who owns those now.

https://www.theblaze.com/shows/the-glenn....

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"If might is right, then love has no place in the world. It may be so, it may be so. But I don't have the strength to live in a world like that..."-Father Gabriel, 'The Mission'

One has to wonder about the level of cheating that took place in the previous election (2020). Did it happen? Was it widespread? From a statistical point of view, there's no question ist certainly appears as if it did in certain places (precincts). What will be done to ameliorate this assuming that cheating was quite significant? WIll it be enough? I see it (election fraud) as pivotal to the direction of the Republic (if we still have one). I truly wonder, even if it is "fixed", and Republicans surge towards a significant majority in the House and Senate whether it will make that much of a difference. I think the Republican party is just about as full of idiot career politicians as the Democratic party. The OVERALL and REAL PROBLEM here is that the intelligentsia of the nation has reached a critical point, and has caused the ability to maintain a Republic almost impossible.

@Sloonie: Yes. I first became aware of Carole Roth & her book when Beck had her on for an hour in early August 2021, where she mentioned both the inconsistent covid restrictions favoring big biz vs small and the easy money enabling the big players to roll up residential real estate.

She also opined that imposition of green diktats by govts playing according to the WEF script may be too much for strapped home owners to afford / comply, but less problematic for the BlackRocks

Mjsmith wrote..

Make a list of significant civilizations in the entirety of recorded human history that did NOT spiral into a flaming crater of socialism within a handful of generations of giving their women the vote.

Brilliant and I agree.

I was just trying to "thread the needle". Most folks' kneejerk reactions are to list a GOAT when someone challenges orthodoxy. Gaussian distributions aren't exactly mainstream thinking. :)

Other than Cleopatra, I really can't think of a female leader who led her nation-state through an existential crisis. Elizabeth I didn't defeat the Spanish. The Spanish defeated the Spanish. But it's immaterial. For every 1 female "great", irrespective of a crisis, there are at least 100 equal men.

I don't get why the West has become so sissified that it can't acknowledge the self-evident strengths and weaknesses of each sex. I guess Western women and beta men are bound and determined to starve to death.

Mosaik wrote..

I am not interested in this kind of "argument."
Your views are obvious.

Fair enough!

Mosaik wrote..

As for "what we need," I don't see anyone on the horizon of any sex or gender, other than RFK Jr.

I agree except on the RFK Jr. part. He's a lawyer. I am firmly convinced that what we need is, indeed, a Cincinnatus or GEN Washington. Farming embeds humility in the soul. It's impossible to explain unless one has tried to coerce nature to do what you want.

One realizes as I did just how small he really is in the grand scheme of things. Reading Washington's diary on his honey locust endeavors made me laugh my ass off as I was doing the same thing with black locust. I feel like I could've helped him with that one and eased his mind a bit.

Couple that with military discipline and you have a once in a supercycle leader.

Now before folks say, "But Madison and Jefferson were lawyers." Indeed they were, among many other things. Madison engineered his ice house. He was a historian. Jefferson was, well, Jefferson. The overwhelming majority of people today are grossly one-dimensional, way too over-specialized. When you couple that with an unproductive profession like law, you have a veritable disaster on your hands.

We need a tradesman warrior. I don't see one on the horizon.

@traelinO

Ummm, George Washington gave us a whiskey rebellion for what many thought were unjust taxes.

Speaking of voting rights:

What might America be like if universal suffrage for white dudes had never came to be in the 1820's? Up to then you had to OWN property to vote. Giving those with no skin in the game the right to vote...

A real luddite might look fondly upon those past times...

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The problem is most people want to point a finger rather than their thumb when dealing with challenges.

@Traelin0: RE Jefferson a lawyer

Also an inventor, farmer, plant breeder, architect

So, add this endless Pinko Pox, endless possibly due to the endless clot shots themselves, to the economic issues worldwide that have been growing since the GFC "emergency measures" (still somewhat active) were taken, greatly accelerated by the reactions to the Commie Coof, the China growth that won't be there this time like it was during the GFC, and a pop or highly destructive gradual deflation of the Mother of All Bubbles, aka the Worldwide Everything Bubble, and will we have far worse political unrest and possibly international war in 2022?

My prediction: Any RINOs elected in 2022/24 (which they WILL eventually be known to be by their action/inaction) will not be able to do anything about the main factors already baked in even if they tried... to which they will only pay lip service anyway and make some guaranteed to fail and, therefore, safe to attempt efforts to do so for the optics. After all, the actual government is the VAST administrative state present at every level of government (including the intel agencies which "have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" if you rock the boat too much) and lobbyists.

Mother of mercy, is this the end of Rico?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK0mjeIk....

Boredfree wrote..

Ummm, George Washington gave us a whiskey rebellion for what many thought were unjust taxes.

I could challenge the mainstream thinking on this, not hard to do, but this isn't the time nor place. You're demonstrating yet another human character flaw, and that is picking at every little scab on another human. It's especially easy to do when someone has proven themselves better than us and we want to cut their legs off.

Good luck with that. I've heard so many people do the same thing with Dr. King on the shit that the FBI and CIA propagated on him, oftentimes the same dumbasses who hate the FBI and CIA!