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2021-11-19 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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People sometimes are known to say things on social media like "This is the hill I will die on."

That's wrong-think folks.

The correct position to take is this one:

"I have the high ground.  I make the products, move the products, and make possible you to have the products and services you want and, indeed, NEED.  Your stock has a quoted price because of me.  Your water runs because of me.  Your hospital has electrical power and fuel for its backup generator, and oxygen for patients, because of me.  Your heat works in your home because of me.  In short, everything you want and need exists...... because of me.

Only 20% of the population supports your threat to fire people.  Most of the other 80% will sit and watch the 20% freeze to death, starve to death, or have a heart attack with no operating hospitals, no dudes in the EMS truck that has no diesel fuel and no electrical power if you do not stop.

You WILL stop what you're doing and retire in peace because if you don't you're ****ed -- and that's a fact.

This is not a request, nor a threat.  It is a statement of fact."

Neither the Government or the screaming Karens can force anyone to labor.  That was passed as Amendment 13 in 1865 and is the beginning and end of the discussion.  Any attempt to put in place an actual mandate that interferes with your ability to earn a living is in fact a direct violation of our Constitution and, if you're fired they are charging the hill -- while you hold the high ground.

Wars begin when two or more groups can no longer agree on the basics of human interaction.  When one group decides the other cannot labor and earn a living anymore, nor be left alone to live in peace you are in a state of war.  Lots of people threaten, bluster and talk, but the fact remains that when someone acts in a fashion that amounts to holding you down and forcibly injecting you, whether they physically do it or do so by forcing you to be fired and thus rendered penniless that is an act of violence, it is a felony assault and when done on a mass basis it is a declaration of war.

That act is no different than the Holodomor, a man-made famine, or the Holocaust which started with branding people who were claimed to be "inferior" or "defective" and sorting them out -- to be forcibly experimented on.

Through history mankind has made this mistake many times.  The nature of war is that once it begins it continues until one side or the other sues for peace.  The losing side sues for peace because the price of killing the next person on the other side becomes unacceptably high.

You don't win a war by dying for your side, in short.  You win by making the price of your death so high that the other side is unwilling to pay it, and until one side or the other finds themselves in that position, or runs out of humans that remain alive the war continues.  When the latter occurs we call it a genocide, because it is.

Whether the delineation to define the "enemy" is genetic, a ruse based on wanting someone's land and resources or based on a personal set of beliefs (after all, religion is voluntary, as are political positions) -- such as whether you're willing to undergo a medical procedure -- makes no difference.

We walked away in Vietnam.  The NVA was literally down to untrained boys to fight with, but fight they did.  The only way to beat them was to kill them all because they never reached the point where the next death they could inflict on our side was too expensive for them to accept.  Walter Cronkite was largely responsible for us walking away from what was otherwise going to inevitably be a "kill them all" outcome by intentionally lying and telling us it was our guys who were dying by the score when in fact it was the other way around; they were stacking up dead kids like cordwood having run out of adult men to fight with.  Was his lie "noble"?  That's an interesting debate but the important point you should take from Vietnam is that a determined adversary will fight to the last living human and they will do it using every device and tool at their disposal, even if they find themselves down to nothing more than sticks and rocks in the hands of ten year old children.  The side willing to do that won because we were not.

Japan surrendered in WWII because we were willing to kill thousands of them for each one of ours that died and we proved it by incinerating both Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  They were unwilling to pay that price.  Had they been willing we might have had to slaughter them all.  Were we willing to do so?  That's a good question but we nuked two of their cities because we were not willing to invade their land and pay the price they could have inflicted on us.  We won by causing them to sue for peace.

Had Hitler figured out the bomb (and he was damn close to doing so) it may have gone the other way in Europe as he would have certainly used it immediately, probably on London.  Would we have been willing to have hundreds or thousands incinerated for every German we killed or would we have surrendered?

Someone who charges the high ground almost-always ends up like this:

Unlike in the movies there is no Lord Emperor with a techno-suit to rescue your smoldering remains.  You simply die, and many of those who charge do so for every single person you get on the other side.

The so-called "elites" want you to believe they have the high ground.  That's a lie.  They in fact are in the valley.  They are more dependent on the supply chain of goods and services than you are.  Their nice expensive mid-sized aircraft requires thousands of man-hours of maintenance a year and roughly 750 gallons of kerosene an hour to fly, exactly zero of which they can wish into existence; you must agree to labor to provide both and if you refuse they have a worthless overpriced beer can.  On the ground such aircraft are insanely easy to disable or destroy; just get something down the intake of one of those engines while it is running and that airplane is going nowhere.

Even the "little" Bizjets are utterly dependent on we "little people."  The Cessna Citation M2 burns 120 gallons an hour and, once again, almost anything down the intake of one of its engines on the ground while its running disables or destroys it.  Once again without your labor to fuel and maintain it, along with leaving it alone physically, that plane is nothing more than a wildly-expensive used beer can and is just as easy to destroy.

You probably live in a house that if the power went out you'd survive, even in the winter.  You could heat it with your fireplace or a small space heating device and circulate enough air from there to keep the pipes -- and you -- from freezing.  You wouldn't like it but you'd survive.  They can't.  All those nice old mansions from 100+ years ago with a fireplace in every room are gone; they weren't "grand enough" and all their "new stuff" is absolutely reliant on the "nice things" in modern life -- like electricity.  Ditto for all the hoi-polloi living in a high-rise condo in NYC, Chicago or similar.  No power, eh?  Uh, how many of them are physically able to climb 30 -- or 50+ -- flights of stairs?  Never mind that every single one of those buildings is utterly reliant on central HVAC and booster pumps for water.  No power, no water and **** always flows downhill.  Oh, they have a generator, you say?  That's nice.  How much fuel do they have?  It runs out, you know.  How hard is it to stop a truck from getting to the tank and refilling it?  Not very.  How many truckers will drive into that town down said street when a brick off the top of a 10 or 20 story building has far more power than a rifle?  Said brick doesn't make any noise until it lands on the target either.

Washington DC becomes uninhabitable within days without delivery of food, fuel, water sanitizing chemicals and electricity.  So does damn near every other large city.  The so-called "elites" cannot possibly manufacture or deliver a single-digit percentage of that which is utterly necessary for them to live.

These are facts and there is no reason for you to provide anything to someone who intends to and demonstrates the willingness to commit a felony assault upon your person.

Never mind the law of large numbers.  There are few of them and many of us.  We all are equally-fragile when it comes to being dead no matter how rich or politically connected we are.  One of the utterly-ridiculous loads of BS that has repeatedly played out (e.g. in Aurora) is a guy with a gun and 100 or more potential victims.  Yes, he can shoot you -- until he runs out of ammunition in his magazine and is forced to reload, or his gun jams.  The minute either of those two things happen if you do not lose your cool he is dead every time as he now has a club instead of a firearm.  Yet repeatedly people do lose their cool and let him reload and fire some more when even a paper cup full of soda hurled at his head would likely cause him to fumble the firearm, magazine or bothLearn from other stupid people who die so when the times comes you're not stupid and don't die.  Then there's the fact that not one reeeing Karen, one corporate officer, director, HR person, hospital administrator, doctor or nurse in a thousand has any sort of actual security at all.  A mere two or three people besiege them and they lose.  Nor is it hard to figure out where any of them -- and their families -- live.  You've seen this often enough over the last few years: Some idiot drives into a "protest."  That vehicle is an instant cage of death if the people outside are serious; as few as a half dozen men can flip it over in seconds, once they start to do that you can't run them over with it anymore and everyone inside the vehicle is ****ed.

Oh, its said, "but they'll bring the cops and the cops have guns."  Certainly the cops do have guns.  But if the cops come and bring their guns their home is left unguarded.  Oops.  Are you sure they'll come?  Most cops are not stupid and as soon as they recognize that the public doesn't support what they're doing they're going to protect themselves and their families, not some hoi-polloi ******* as everyone in their neighborhood knows where they live.  Remember the singular lesson of history up above?  In war there are no rules, save one:  Wars only end when the price the other side has to pay in order to kill you is high enough that they choose to sue for peace.

Nobody sane wants war; by definition the other side must be expected to try to follow the same singular rule, and we'd all prefer that not be the case.  The problem is that one cannot assume a reeeeing Karen, a "woke" businessperson, any of the *******s in the medical system that slaughtered hundreds of thousands over the last year or politicians drunk on power is sane.  If war is declared upon you then you have no choice but to adopt the primary rule of war unless you are comfortable with suicide.  You must decide that your death will have an unacceptable price tag attached to it and you must make sure the other side pays that price in full and up front before you are rendered incapable of exacting that price.

As with the Second Amendment, which has the property of being protective only so long as the government believes the people will use it if necessary, war is averted only when the other side that would aggress believes you will exact the price of your life up front should they be foolish enough to initiate hostilities.

Every war in history has begun because the original aggressing side did not believe the other side would adopt this posture and deliver it to them, and a good part of the time the reason they didn't believe it was that the other side simpered, cucked and made excuses instead of showing the threatening aggressors bare, sharpened steel, making a clear and believable statement as to what was going to happen if they didn't shut the **** up and stand down.

Bosnia can happen here in America folks.

It did once before, right here in America, in the 1860s.  Entire cities were burnt to the ground with not a care in the world who was inside at the time.  Unlike the 1860s, however, there is no reasonably-clean geographic boundary this time.  If it occurs today there won't be a "north" and "south"; there will instead be mayhem and slaughter everywhere including, quite probably, right where you live.  If you think you'll get as lucky as Sherman did, being able to burn and kill without the other side adopting the correct perspective when in a war realize you're betting your life and that of your entire family on it.  This wager has been made many times through history and a very large percentage of those times it has been lost.

To those rreeeeing Karens, politicians, health scare and corporate types: Sit down, have a drink, and contemplate before you take another step forward whether you really are willing to bet everything you have and love on your course of action.

You're outnumbered, you're in a valley, you need what we make and send down there into the valley and we, the people have the high ground.

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Did you write this because you think Brandon is going to ignore the court orders?
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A fantastic and well reasoned post. Thank you, @TickerGuy. Reality is on our side, but it will be a nightmare for those who now live in a fantasy world. One way or another the equation will be balanced.
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Many conservatives think that the patriots in the military will intervene. Maybe. The bottom line is that the military is being purged of the patriots and will be left with mostly social justice warrior paper pushers. The weapon systems are too complex and won't work well without proper maintenance (including nasty software updates, made by contractors). In the last 30 years many of the military members have become overweight, just like the cops. They wear their BDUs around because they can't fit in the dress uniforms! When they try they look like Milley.

A number of veterans I know will NOT recommend any of their relatives enter the military.

The military is being destroyed. It can still make war, but not effectively.
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So I actually, think this is one of the main reasons the MSM, the Left, Karens, etc are so focused on the Rittenhouse case - a case of obvious self defense. They just cannot allow someone - especially a young white male - who brought an "evil" AR-15 to protect himself, win this case in court. They need him to rot in prison. Otherwise they probably feel it will embolden others to dash into the fray and protect life and property instead of sitting down and taking their ****.
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Regarding the military, here is a meme I saw yesterday:

"20 years in the military, multiple combat deployments, and Kyle Rittenhouse is the first fighter I've seen righteously spill the blood of our people's legitimate enemies"

Lots of vets are thinking the same thing.... Seems the military is going to have a big recruiting problem.

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@Blanca
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Many conservatives think that the patriots in the military will intervene.


Nobody is coming to save us. The top brass are mostly leftist social justice warriors.

This could have ended the "easy" way if people simply refused to wear face diapers 18 months ago. Ending it gets progressively more difficult with time, but simply saying "no" is still an option to win. For now.

"No" to face diapers
"No" to clot shots
"No" to boosters
"No" to Nazi vaccine passports
"No" to tyranny


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Every time my dip**** libtard in-laws would talk disparagingly about the "lower" classes I would reply with "you need the garbageman more than the garbageman needs you." He's an estate attorney and I refer to her as Blob from Gigglesnort Hotel.
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****ing beautiful Karl. This actually gives me hope. Cheered me up. I know that sounds ****ed up, but you really bring up points I havent considered fully. Kudos Karl. As always you ****ing rock. And to the ticker homies....Up the ****ing irons!!!

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Looks like hard lockdowns coming in Austria and Germany. Why does trouble also seem to come from those countries?

Anyway, the regime here in the US is taking a breather, but don't be lulled into complacency. I think they are planning the next set of "measures" here in the US once the cases start rising strongly in a month or so.

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I'm wondering how things got this far, and in talking to people I had a realization. They go along because they're afraid they'll lose everything BECAUSE THEY'RE IN DEBT UP TO THEIR EYEBALLS! Houses, cars, schools, vacations, toys, they can't really afford; not without mortgaging their entire future. They won't take the steps you outline because they're already slaves; debt slaves.

Being an employer has shown me that some people, if not most, have a by the hour frame of mind. It's nearly impossible to get them to understand that if our man hours drop, if our productivity increases, we all make more money. Not just me, the whole business. They want me to pay them to mess things up and pay them to fix it; as long as they get their hours in they're happy. You'll never get these people free from their self imposed chains. If I double a guy's pay and he's satisfied with his lifestyle, one of two things happens. He either works less hours or instead of a six pack of beer and ten bucks on lottery tickets, he buys a twelve pack and twenty bucks in lottery tickets. They haven't learned to see this whole thing as an opportunity and they're quivering. America is less and less a nation of entrepreneurs and more and more a nation of by the hour debt slaves. They don't get that money is just an idea and one good idea can make you rich. Hell, I'm already writing sales pitches for my new company--Novax Painting. "Tired of the liability of painters 'dying suddenly' on your project? Call Novax Painting. All of our employees are purebloods."

I sure hope there are enough of us to turn this thing around. Rant over.
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@Billhrny

Conservatives view the Rittenhouse case in terms the following:

What does the law say?
Is the application of the law correct here?
Who started it?
What is the right thing to do?

Leftists view it as two of their soldiers are KIA and one is WIA. They want revenge. And they want to make an example so others are discouraged from defending themselves and their communities.

The fact that it took longer than 10 seconds to reach a verdict is more evidence of rot in our country.

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War doesn't necessarily entail victory through military violence.
The price for one side can be made to be too high by using the tactics of Gandhi, if that side is susceptible to world opinion in the form of admonishment, sanctions, etc. Or, as K D says, by the winning side refusing to run the economy.
Cyber warfare is another form of asymmetrical warfare not involving conventional military tactics. Cyber plus biological warfare will likely replace conventional warfare in the developed world.
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The Brownstone Institute has published a piece today which divulges the names and roles of those whom were originally responsible for starting this war: https://principia-scientific.com/how-fan....

A former Sandia lab computer scientist and his young daughter, the latter who created so-called social conditioning as a theory for her school science fair. This event apparently originated with a small cadre of computer simulations by software folks who truly believe they are the smartest kids in the room despite zero medical or virology background because nobody qualified had wanted to take on pandemic planning.

This may serve as a beginning for, ahem, accountability purposes.
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1,000% spot on TG.

Unwinding the division of labor will screw the average Karen over royally. They've got it coming, and I'm waiting to see the video footage of an elite's Lear jet burning on the tarmac one of these days. That's worth a toast of one's favorite intoxicating beverage, right there.



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@Tickerguy - Bravo sir! Well said. smiley
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The so-called "elites" want you to believe they have the high ground. That's a lie.They in fact are in the valley.
They are more dependent on the supply chain of goods and services than you are.

This.^^
Being in the valley limits one field of view in very,very dangerous ways.
(I picture being in Washington D.C.as being the ultimate sort of myopic valley for the elites.)

They would do well to remember how it was expressed in another movie:

Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on:
we cook your meals,
we haul your trash,
we connect your calls,
we drive your ambulances,
we guard you while you sleep.
Do not **** with us.

- Tyler Durden

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It does seem that a civil war is brewing in many former Liberal democracies.

The power elites are out of touch with the masses - the electorate. This will be their downfall.

Ropes may be in short supply before too much longer.
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@Peterabelard - George W Bush, the President who keeps on giving. That moron absolutely bought that lockdown bs hook, line and sinker evern though all the true experts who reviewed the model disagreed with it. One of the experts was responsible for eradicating smallpox. The person who eradicated smallpox disagreed with lockdowns and Bush disagreed with him.

Bush bought the lockdown BS that originated from a high school science project created by a teenager. Craven power hungry bastard.

The American Institute of Economic Research had a great article on the orgin of this nonsense last year.

https://www.aier.org/article/the-2006-or....

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This could have ended the "easy" way if people simply refused to wear face diapers 18 months ago. Ending it gets progressively more difficult with time, but simply saying "no" is still an option to win. For now.

"No" to face diapers
"No" to clot shots
"No" to boosters
"No" to Nazi vaccine passports
"No" to tyranny


This is right on the money. When the face diapers started I told people repeatedly, if you're not willing to refuse compliance with something this easy then we're all ****ed because you sure as hell won't stand up when it gets exponentially harder. It won't end there and you'll just keep complying in hopes of regaining, or even maintaining, some measure of your freedom (or what's left of it). Repeat until you have no freedom left at all, and as we're seeing it doesn't take much to get there.

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Seems to me like a "Battle of Athens" event is in the making or at the very least being agitated for. If so, Mr Denninger is in the right 'neck of the woods' for it. heheh

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@ Confused1

You are 100% spot on. As someone who spent a career trying to corral the worker bees into doing actual work.....and dealing with their self-inflicted wounds, of all kinds, all day, every day........I could not imagine being an entrepreneur now. I would not even open a lemonade stand. Their lives are as indebted and dysfunctional as their decisions, and tomorrow does not exist.

"Borrowers are slave to the lenders".
-God
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Thank you Karl for helping to educate those who do not realize we are already at WAR. Take action accordingly and plan accordingly.
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On warfare:

A person should choose their targets carefully. Anyone remember the guy who crashed his plane into an IRS office? Probably not, he chose his target poorly and he died executing his attack.

Or the fellow getting screwed by the town of Gramby who built a tank out of a big dozer and proceeded to try scraping city hall down. Poor bastard forgot about the basement and killed himself after his machine became stuck.

Last year was one of the best actions taken against the elite. A person or persons shut off the main natural gas lines going to Aspen during Christmas/New Years week when the place is so full of the stinking rich the smell carries for a hundred miles in all directions. No heat for the driveways, no gas cook tops, no hot water. And nobody was caught.

Two or three times a year (after new years, after July 4th and a couple of big Aspen Institute functions) the Aspen Airport has multi million dollar private jets filling every parking spot available. A dump truck loaded with wet sand could take out a few billion dollars worth of greed, and probably be fun to do to. Catch the airport on a day everyone is trying to leave and you'd have planes full of pricks stuck waiting for the runway...



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The left thinks Kyle needs to be found guilty of something because he killed two people. That's why it's taking so long. I've heard it on a radio station host on a station that used to be conservative.
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https://www.cnn.com/2.280.2/static/unsup....

"Recent real-world studies suggested that immunity from Covid-19 vaccines may begin to wane and protection against milder and asymptomatic disease, in particular, may drop. Studies have shown that booster doses restore that immunity. Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told CNN that recent data from Israel show that, among people age 60 and older, those who received a booster were less likely to become severely ill than vaccinated people who had not received a booster."

It's like they are admitting that the shots don't work and boosters will be needed forever. It also seems like it is not specific to COVID...

What the actual ****?
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