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2021-11-15 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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CDC Ruins The Mandate Push
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The CDC used to keep a table around that showed their estimated prevalence of Covid-19.  That stopped being updated for months -- right through the middle of the "mandate screamfest" which started in the summer.

Well, it's back -- and it ruins Biden's mandate demands.

 

It gets worse.  Note that the 5th Circuit stated that one of the primary problems with the OSHA mandate is that Covid-19 is not deadly to all but a few people.  Well, in this same publication is the infection fatality rate for population segments.  It's not good for the mandating folks.

It shows that for working age people -- those under 65 years old -- in no group does the IFR exceed 0.25%.

In those under 50 the IFR is no greater than 0.04%!

And in those under 18 it is 0.0009%.  In other words, statistically zero.

There are about 60 million people under 18 in the United States.  If every one of them got Covid-19, by the CDC's numbers, about 500 would die.  This is a vanishingly small number of individuals and is dwarfed by auto accidents.  Indeed six times that number of kids die from drowning every year.  Car crashes are worse (drowning is the second leading cause of death in children.)

May I point out that we've known this -- that Covid-19 almost-never kills children -- since the spring of 2020?

Note that this rate of "had the illness" is roughly a double since May.  How is that possible when it took over a year to reach 20% seroprevalence in the population, which we know it did because of the Red Cross data published in the NEJM?

Simple: The vaccines destroyed existing resistance to Covid-19 and thus turned those who would not seroconvert (as they never got replication-occurring infected, their immune systems being able to defeat the virus before that occurred) into susceptible individuals who then were not only able to get Covid-19 on a symptomatic basis they were wildly successful in spreading it too because it often suppressed symptoms well enough and long enough for those people to be extremely-effective inoculators of others, including others who were jabbed and thus had their existing immunity ruined as well.

But irrespective of this there is zero argument for a mandate by anyone when you have an IFR this low and prior infection this prevalent.  Recommending that a previously-infected person take a jab is the definition of gross malpractice and in fact is a felony assault worthy of the same response as any other since we know that (1) the jabs do have risk, including risk of lethal outcomes, (2) they do not prevent infection, (3) they do not prevent transmission and (4) they do not prevent getting seriously ill either -- they may have some protective value in that regard but there is no evidence, and the CDC has so-admitted, that a person previously infected is able to (1) become reinfected AND (2) infect others.

Dr. Brandon, you have a call on line 1 from Mr. Hands.

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Tonythetiger
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BOOM goes the dynamite!

Not that there was much actual reason to expect anything different based on what's been going on around the world. Any thoughts on how the MSM will spin this inconvenient set of CDC provided facts into the fault of the unvaccinated?

You know it's coming ...


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The rage inside me has been slowly simmering up to a boil over this. It's one thing to allow--even to coerce--adults into doing something stupid and potentially disastrous. That's bad enough.

How many kids are going to die from this?

Or looked at another way, what's the cost:benefit in terms of minor lives saved for every vaccine-pushing f*** that gets strung from a stoplight, and every martyr that gets taken out trying to do so?
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Bring on the data. Keep it coming hard and fast. There should be lethal consequences for every ******* who instigated, implemented, and perpetuated this vile and unnecessarily deadly farce.
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Been praying all weekend over the fed worker mandate hearing in FL today. Hope they have this new data for today.
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Karl, last sentence. Should be unable, yes?
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What is IFR? In context, it's probably perfectly obvious but at 4:53am I plead brain fog.

This isn't helping: https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/I....

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@Maddmaxx - No, read it again.

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@Auldsnu - "Infection fatality rate" - of those infected, what percentage die?

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It's booster season, so another spike in cases might be just around the corner.
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"And in those under 18 it is 0.0009%. In other words, statistically zero."

My SIL shared the cutest story at our recent family dinner: a friend of hers took her 3 kids to get jabbed, and the littlest one cried because she was too young to get one. Isn't that just ADORABLE!?!


"In those under 50 the IFR is no greater than 0.04%!"

When someone else at the table tried to start a pile-on on me by asking why I wasn't muddying my blood, I replied "Because I wasn't conceived from a weak sperm". His look of queasy defeat and the chuckles around the table made the meal taste at least 4.17 times better.
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Fauci and Gates on video this weekend saying vaccines aren't working..

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11....
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Ok, got it. So their position is getting vaccinated wont stop future transmission. Indeed, the UK data suggests itll increase the risk. However, by the referenced FOIA letter havent they they also further admitted to having no evidence of an unvaccinated previously infected individual infecting someone else? So, those with established natural immunity should be further exempt.
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When do you file an amicus brief? Do you have to wait for SCOTUS to get the call? Will you? Can you?

Thank you Karl
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The Wikipedia entry on noted Mafia maniac Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso nicely illustrates how many "COVID deaths" are presented.

Near the beginning of the entry, we have "Casso died in prison custody on December 15, 2020, from complications related to COVID-19." Well, you know, even tough guys can get sick and get the pneumonia, so . . .

Then you get to the bottom of the listing and you get the details: "On December 15, 2020, Casso died from complications related to prostate cancer, coronary artery disease, kidney disease, hypertension, bladder disease and lung issues from years of smoking, and COVID-19, at the age of 78."

So a stubbed toe would have been enough to finally put this guy under, but it's a "COVID death".
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Then the question is: how many of those 146.6 million were infected after they got their vaxx and can be reinfected? That shouldn't have any bearing on the current mandate, but might be important for a reverse mandate that vaccinated people stay home instead of infecting other people at work ;)
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The ****s I don't give about covid and infections are uge.

The Fraudster is using data we have known for months to gode the stupid into digging their hole deeper.

I will get covid, maybe more than once. I now have meds at home and a clinic willing to treat me. Covid isn't an issue the only issue is the bioweapon being injected in to children.

Invented in 1990 perfected in 1995 and pantented in 2002. Spike protein. When 5 year olds start having heart attacks at the rate of the 20 something soccer players are we then going to understand what is really at stake?

If I hear one mother****er start talking about jabbing 0 to 5 year olds he gets to be on top of my list.
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@Tickerguy - superb! smiley

In other words, the vaccines are and were *utter* failures, proved by Uttar Pradesh.

Rather than trying to develop novel vaccines, we should have concentrated on treatments as FLCCC and others did and distributed cheap, effective Ivermectin based drugs.

All the way down the line from the likely release of this virus from a lab in Wuhan,
to the "experts" in the CDC telling us to follow the science,
to the corrupted idiot Fauci repeatedly lying to congress,
this whole mess has been caused by "smarter than thou" Dr. Frankensteins who, thinking they could cheat their way to a better tommorrow, only precipitated the very crisis they sought to avoid.

They greedily reached for the 'next big thing' instead of solving the problem right in front of them.

But instead of Frankenstein, we got Godzilla...
 

@Bluto - you got the right sigline!
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Ceiii2000 wrote:
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If I hear one mother****er start talking about jabbing 0 to 5 year olds he gets to be on top of my list.


That line Should have been drawn at 0~18 year Olds, Long Ago.. Just sayin..

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Tonythetiger, how the MSM will spin this?, they will completely ignore it. They are professional propagandists that use lies through omission as one of their favorite tools. Ignore everything that doesn't match the "jab everyone" narrative.
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I think it's clear: they're getting ready to declare victory in the Covid war and go home. "The vaccines worked! We have achieved herd immunity." If they keep up the current line, they're going to force people to see the scam.

Too bad for all the casualties, but maybe there will be a memorials for the lost soldiers in the War onCovid.
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I just read a 'news' story regarding Colorado covid. At the end of the story was this line:

Activating staffing crisis standards of care allows health care systems to maximize the care they can provide in their communities with the staff they have available.

I guess what they're trying to say is so many hospital staff are saying FU to clot shot they need to change the rules so hospitals can remain open.

Nothing to see here...

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Thanks again Karl for hammering this every week. Our collective memory is so short and we need the updated statistics to how wrong our "leaders" are.
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If someone has the link to this table I would appreciate it, as I have been unable to find it.
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Loop begins to close: it appears that the full COVID spike protein interferes with DNA repair and T-cell generation. This means it can cripple the adaptive immune response. Jury's still out on if the vaccine-induced spike does the same, but my hunch is it does. Explains how the jab can strip existing immunity as the population wide data appears to imply.

https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/10/205....
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