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2021-11-10 08:57 by Karl Denninger
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Oh, look what the cat dragged in... (h/t to Vox)

They called said agency and were told that there were a high volume of SAEs being reported from multiple centers, so they were going through and removing the “irrelevant ones.” They claimed that the state of the pandemic warranted an unconventional approach to research. Obviously this is insane, even to the trusting individuals my friend worked with so the head of his clinic called a conference of the other 20 or so sites in that region and they all were having the same experience. In other words, this wasn’t a fluke.

Things eventually got so bad that my friends’ boss told the company he was contracted with that he was going to discontinue the trial because people were having so many SAEs including seizures, clots, myocarditis, death, etc. The contracting company told him that he was obliged to finish the trial, from what I gather because the official number of SAEs was below the 5% threshold. Friend’s boss said “go take a hike, I quit.” Walked away from his head job at the research center where he made millions.

Un-sourced back to the original, so I can't verify it -- and it might well be bull****.  In general my rule as anyone who's followed my reporting over the last close to 15 years knows is that without sourcing I won't run it no matter where it came from.  But there are times exceptions are called for and this is one of them.  Among the reasons for my decision in this instance are that at least one instance of serious fraud in the trials on teens has been documented by the victim herself attempting to take said message public -- in a wheelchair -- and having it spiked by the media.

That standing alone might have been enough but in this case its even more-compelling because the claim can be verified as the reports are it was across multiple locations.  

The claim thus must be run to the ground one way or the other: That the people conducting the original trials on the vaccines knew damn well they were dangerous and someone -- likely the FDA -- was intentionally deleting reports of adverse events.

This is either true or it is not.  If its true then every party who was involved and did nothing to blow the whistle is responsible for injecting somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 million Americans (and God knows how many worldwide) with a drug that was known to be very dangerous -- and those dangers were intentionally concealed.

That's all discoverable, by the way, should someone sue.  If its true then Moderna knew it too.  Pfizer and J&J, from the field data I have discussed, likely knew had similar experiences and knew as well because the odds are extremely high their formulations and tests produced the same results.

May I remind you that one of the exceptions to the PREP Act's liability shield is intentional misconduct.  You can't sue the government generally but if you can prove that the drugmakers knew of this data -- and if it happened they did know because their people or their contracted labs were seeing it and reporting it -- and they deliberately sat back and let anyone including the FDA delete the records and thus tamper with the trial their liability shield goes "poof" like Joe Biden's fart in front of the Duchess.

There are a hell of a lot of dead and injured people out there, and the VAERS reports, even under-represented as they are, shows that these jabs are wildly more-dangerous than any other in United States history.  The adverse event rate is high enough to have immediately terminated the trials in the fall of 2020 if it had been reported.

Discovery is a bitch folks, and there's no way around a subpoena in a situation like this.  Oh, and since the government was directly involved the issuance of a "mandate" in the face of this deception, assuming it occurred and was deliberate, is quite-arguably intentional manslaughter and no, government officials are not immune from being prosecuted for that.

Incidentally Pfizer's CEO has said, in public, that those peddling "misinformation" are criminals.  If in fact the trial data was tampered with that makes him the criminal.

And let's put a cherry on what may well be the topper of the sundae: Moderna has been trying to use mRNA for roughly 10 years against various indications and every time had run into the same problem: Serious adverse events that closed the "effective-to-toxic" window, which exists for all drugs, causing them to fail.  Now, we are told, both they and Pfizer magically solved the problem that had vexed the technology for a decade at a most-propitious time, just when the world needed it most.

Where are the landsharks with their briefcases -- and subpoenas?

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un be ****ing believable.

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Moderna's stock performance says "maybe true" so far.
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Someone in such a high role at a big company would likely have a visible job change on LinkedIn around the same time.
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The only question is when this will be shown in the light of day, not if.

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At this point I'm willing to skip the lawsuits and go directly to justice being meted out, in individual cases all over the place. The ****ers need to fry anyway, but INTENTIONALLY doing the above? That's cause for getting medieval.

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It should be no surprise to anyone that a type of vaccine (mRNA) that couldn't be brought to market successfully in decades of trying due to adverse events in trial participants didn't suddenly get the kinks worked out in the few short weeks (days?) between COVID showing up and these drugs going into trials.

That these drugs were safe has been unbelievable from day 1 just knowing the history of mRNA vaccines, of course they were lying about adverse events.
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On those "rare" side effects.

German Newspaper Highlights "Unusually Large" Number Of Soccer Players Who Have Collapsed Recently - 10 Nov 2021

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/german....

German newspaper Berliner Zeitung has published a report seeking to answer why an unusually large number of professional and amateur soccer players have collapsed recently.

Headlined Puzzling heart diseases in football, the report begins by highlighting the case of FC Barcelonas Sergio Agero, the 33-year-old striker who recently had to be withdrawn from a match after 41 minutes suffering from dizziness and breathing difficulties.

The article lists a large number of recent cases of footballers who have had heart problems or collapsed on the field, in some cases leading to death.

That list is republished here:

https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inlin....
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So are many of the normal side effects of the vaccines more of a feature than a bug? People are getting the shot and almost expect to be out for a day or two. It has been normalized. They say it means its working and your employer even says you can get a free sick day to recover.

But how many people are actually having an unexpected adverse reaction that is getting masked by the expected side effects? How many people think it is normal and do not get it checked out? How many end up getting bit by this when they run into another stressor? Like cardio as part of sports or another medical issue that on its own would be manageable.
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Thank you for the closing comment on the Pfizer CEO.

The degree of projection by these guys is incredible.

I'd argue that misinformation is in the eyes of the beholder, and dumbass tinfoil hat misinformation is an "own goal", but the freedom to score those goals is a protected right, of course.

It would be great for more Project Veritas exposes on the vaccines as viewed by mid level Pharma employees.....hmmmm, I wonder why the FBI recently raided the home of several Project Veritas leads.....oh yeah, something about a 38 year olds diary....

Sure.

I perused that diary online. A boring look into the mind of a messed up 30 something woman's head. A "nothing burger".

Maybe trying to send a different message to them.

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Can subpoenas discover what has been intentionally deleted? Not knowing the sytems they use, are deleted records kept or scrubbed? Will it take computer forensics to find this data. Or will whistleblowers come out that have backed some of it up to a pen drive come forward? This is the problem, I believe the
data is gone.. poof. Now take your shot! Notice I did not say vaccine! :-)
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And yet. Where the **** are our leaders?? Oh thats right. They are blowing each other and the pharma groups. Whatever. ****ing evil bastards. Jeremy is making a list about now I would imagine. Thanks Karl. Everyday in the forum is always educational.

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The Moderna vaccine was created in less than 3 days. Does that sound plausible.

Anecdotal story. 2 of my physician colleagues got Moderna as part of their clinical trials. Both female in their 50s. One Korean. The other Caucasian. Both got markedly labile HTN which they hadnt had before and required about 3 to 4 months of meds before it resolved.

Both are hard core liberals. I expect they will get the booster.

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My neighbor's nephew was a 35 year old airline pilot and Air National Guard fighter pilot. Playing cards at home with family and friends last week, said he though he had heartburn, then fell over dead at the table in front of his kids. Massive heart attack. Probably vaccinated.

39 year old who works for a family excavating/construction business north of town dropped dead from a heart attack last week. Vaccination status unknown.

My wife is the lab tech at our local small town clinic. Democrat. Nonconfrontational. Team player. Took the jab as soon as she could. We've had numerous discussions about masks and vaccinations and have agreed to disagree. Last week I about fell over when she said out of the blue, "You know, I don't think I want to take the booster..."


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Esccalation in The War? Fynderella's twitter account has been suspended. Telling too much truth, no doubt. Her feed was very informative. She is one of the AFLDs. She was booted before and resurfaced as Fynderella, so hopefully she comes back soon.
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My 42 yr. old niece gave in and got it.
3 days later in hospital with deep vein thrombosis in her leg.
No mention of vax side effect. No one even asked her about it.
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I think within months whether for Covid or other issues, the people in the hospital will be very much onesidedly vaxxed. Whether it is acknowledged or seeps out remains to be seen.
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"Where are the landsharks." That's what I've been wondering since about 6 months in to this ****show. One would think cases like these would be pretty low-hanging fruit. Unless maybe they suspect a hostile judiciary.

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As you wrote, it needs to be run down one way or another.

But I don't buy the story. (Not because I would not expect that conduct from the parties implicated.)

I don't but it because too many people would have been in the know, and kept quiet. Most, if not all, would have kept quiet even in the face of their own companies vaccine mandate.

Someone would have had someone they know, if not themselves, injured by the therapeutics, or been outraged that requirements for kids were being put in place.

Someone would have downloaded evidence and gone to someone like Veritas.

While I realize the pressures of self preservation, and the threat of cancel culture, and even persecution by the "legal system", someone would have blown the lid on this in a fully sourced and documented manner by now.
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That multiple countries have blocked the jabs for those under 30, especially the Moderna poison, indicates there is a real risk of harm in the formulation.

That US officials persist in denying this reality is damning. They are ideologies, refusing to change narrative despite mounting evidence contrary to their story.

What this infirms me is the Covid scam permeates just about every institution in America. They took money and are wanting to access more money if they just stick with the story.

Hell is going to have a housing shortage.
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Pfizer is pushing for the boosters for anyone 18+ years old according to the fake news this morning. Every day it's another step in the wrong direction.
I got calls from 2 guys (one late 60's and one early 70's) I've known for decades in the last week, both got the Pfizer booster recently; and both said they were still sicker than hell from it. One said it's been over 10 days and he can barely get around. They both know I won't take the **** but wanted to let me know that maybe I was right all along. I listened but I don't care what happens, I still don't want to be friends with them anymore; considering what dicks they acted like before when I was warning them.
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I found this yesterday and also saw that it is unsourced. However, as I said yesterday, what makes it credible is the parallels it has to sub-prime real estate players during the ought's in terms of the relationships between the parties.

Generally corruption follows repeatable MO's and this certainly struck me as the case. I posted this over on Alex Berenson's substack, given that he used to be an investigative journalist (a real one) and that he might be able to track it down or know someone who can track it down.

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Moderna was just banned in france and germany for the under thirty cohort.

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@Tappedout - Except... there is HARD EVIDENCE of suppression of reports of adverse events during trials -- specifically, for teens. That person has shown up in front of Congress, where lying is a felony, and yet their event was NOT in the trial data.

So we're talking about "how prevalent?", not "did it happen" because that it happened at least once appears to be established.

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My wife just used the Panodyne Covid test to see whether she had Covid recently but both the IgM and IgG came up negative.

For those that are knowledgeable about such things, is it possible that she is naturally immune from Covid despite testing negative for infection? She has lived a "normal" life since this ridiculousness started meaning she has been around people in crowded indoor and outdoor spaces for the past 18 months. Hard to believe she or I haven't been infected yet so I'm thinking we may have some level of immunity due to prior exposure to other coronaviruses. Thoughts?
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