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Imhotep
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BTW, this is going on now...have been listening to it. One injured guy wanted to thank Fauci, et al for not showing up and showing how much they cared. This is in DC.

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1yoJMWb....
Crossthread
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(Japan) lot numbers 3004667, 3004734 and 3004956 were suspended following reports from vaccination sites of a potential foreign particulate substance observed in unused vials from lot 3004667.


I THINK we can Guess-a-mate the Size of the Lots by this information?

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Rovi said it is also investigating the contaminated lots. The 1.63 million doses came from three identified lot numbers -- 3004667, 3004734 and 3004956


1.63 / 3 = 54.3K +/- doses each "Lot"? ? Or a even 55K or 60K accounting for Doses administered?

OK I see "where" I think I have it wrong @Tickerguy, Assuming.. you obtain 5 or 6 "doses" per Vial I read somewhere.. Care to try to correct the Math for (Me) or US? Or, what does it even matter at this point? To paraphrase our favorite Witch, (Killary C.).. smiley Just trying to help out, you know, MATH isn't My strong point.

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Nope.

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Onelegged wrote..
Heres my stupid question of the day; did you correct for the number of jabs/lot?
Sorry, had to ask. Maybe I missed that in there.
Don't think ya can. Size per individual lot (batch size) and how many jabs were given outta that lot are two big pieces of missing data.
But the fact that diff companies have the same curve says that the lot size and jabs per lot are similar, right?

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My parents' first jab was one of the Pfizer batches near the top. Their health has deteriorated over the past 10 months, but at their age that could be a coincidence.

I do not plan on telling them about this unless they change their minds about the booster. At this time, they do not plan on getting it.
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@Whitehat
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One finds problems that could not be modeled in any simulation that are only revealed once actual production starts.

This^^^.

100% true for the software world as well, even though it's not strictly manufacturing.

Ever seen someone stare at the problem that IS happening and say "This can't be happening!!!"? smiley

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Kraminari
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This is an excellent transcript of an interview from back in January 2021 with German cell biologist Dr. Vanessa Schmidt-Kruger and it might shed some light on what could be going on with the batches.

She talks about quality control issues and contamination found with the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccines.

http://enformtk.u-aizu.ac.jp/howard/gcep....

Some excerpts from the article:
"The problem that BioNTech had is that in the clinical phase the product, i.e. the RNA, was produced with completely different techniques to how it is being produced now. During the clinical phase they only needed small volumes of vaccine, they were able to use very expensive techniques that delivered highly purified end products......

"They also have to analyze how strong the activity of the enzymes is; that is very important because I explained that after that the RNA is transcribed from the DNA and then the DNA has to be eliminated, it is digested by enzymes: by DNAses. And if this DNA is not digested well enough, if residues are left, this harbours risks Ill come back to the risks from DNA residues, but the activity of the enzymes has to be monitored well and at the end you need to have a pure RNA without any more DNA. And that is not the case. BioNTech has admitted that there are DNA contaminants."

..."And then they dont have any proper standard for the various batches."

Edwardteach
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...the premise, that one can come up with a manufacturable product that produces a reliable level of something in the human body, where that "something" is pathogenic, is false.


That may well be the most crucial statement you've made (at least that I've observed in the few months that I've been here). It distils the problem with the shots down into a couple of lines. The fact that it's observable across multiple manufacturers indicated that it's more than a manufacturing ****up. It's a problem with the premise itself, which cannot be corrected.

I'd be curious to know what the manufacturing dates of the terrible lots were, and what their geographical distributions were. Probably random?

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Robackrman
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Karl's plots are very unlikely to be explained by differences in denominators or jabs/lot. Multiple copies of the spike protein are produced by cells for each mRNA strand -- an exponential process. So, ironically, the "hot" lots may be the "good" high-spike-protein-producing lots. It is easy to believe that an unidentified mechanism (or perhaps a secret concern of the manufacturers) could result in small changes in the rate of mRNA uptake, protein production in each cell, and/or the time the mRNA strands survive which would amplify to large changes in overall pathogenic spike protein production -- as I understand it.

Reason: substitue lot for batch
Guerin
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Something that raises a red flag about QC is why the worst lots had such a wide distribution. I would expect for efficiency's sake that when manufacturing tens of millions of doses that are immanently going to be used, a finished lot would be packaged and shipped intact to the same distributor, meaning a bad lot should result in a pretty noticeable localized cluster of problems. For a lot to end up all over the place suggests intentional time and effort to split a lot up when distributing it to avoid noticeable clusters from a bad lot.

The idea that manufacturers are experimenting by varying the contents or dosage by lot seems iffy unless the manufacturers have a way to track what is going where and into whom. VAERS is too inconsistent to produce an accurate picture for the manufacturers to rely on. I find it much more plausible that there have been lots intentionally produced that are nothing but saline, intended for "special" people who either KNOW these jabs are dangerous or who would cause bad publicity if they came down with an AE.
Scottj175
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What an indictment of our "gotta have it now, quantity over quality society". As a car guy I've always hated the "speed kills" mantra but it applies in things like development of these shots.

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Sounds like a lot of the BS that we are subjected to in the computer world which also found its way into cars lately. Release some concurrently but not sequentially product development crap and then pull back or re engineer or re code problems during the production runs and during end use


@whitehat, yes I'm living this right now. Big "modernization" project at my employer has already missed one date and now folks are working almost 24/7 to push at the next critical one because the company has already spent a bunch of marketing dollars to publicize the new functionality the project brings.

But in the rush to hit dates proper requirements gathering wasn't done nor was proper due diligence done against the vendor who promised everything was "plug & play" (it absolutely wasn't). So there are huge functionality gaps showing up and it seems every day something new is uncovered in the pre-production testing cycles that SHOULD have been caught weeks ago in initial testing but that was all shortcut in the name of speed.

What's worse is no one who SHOULD be held accountable will be. I suspect the response will be even more micromanagement on us in-house code slingers who were issuing warnings that got ignored all along.

Fdprefect
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Bigblockchevy wrote..
All three manufacturers all made the exact same mistake at three different locations that led to the exact same outcomes. I wouldn't bet much on that Sir.
I defined "incompetence" in that same paragraph. Any drug company that rolls out an untested product is a sign of incompetence. Or, if you prefer, negligence.

If the issue is that Big Pharma is testing dosing on the public, that is just idiotic - because eventually the truth will out. Negligent homicide that is successfully covered up is a sign of competence - evil though it may be. Negligent homicide that can be uncovered by people like Karl, is a sign of incompetence.

It's stupid to test on the general public. It's stupid to do so without covering your tracks. It's stupid to think there will not be repercussions for these actions.

That's all I'm saying.

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I'm seeing in the MSM that the Biden administration is going to release the OSHA ETS in "the coming days". I know that the lawsuits are prepped to go up against this if it actually happens.


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Imhotep
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https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n263....

Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizers vaccine trial
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If they would have followed normal vaccine development protocol testing procedures, they would have found this vital information while performing "animal" trials, to ensure no humans could be harmed before "testing" it on humans.

"First, do no harm" - Hippocratic Oath

We are way past the 50 death mark that would normally bring an immediate stoppage for a failed shot causing deaths, which these have convincingly done.

This is no accident.

This is a Genocide.

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Wayiwalk
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How many are, both jabs, same lot, vs one from one lot, one from another.

I can only imagine the sort of confidentiality and NDAs the lab guys and post jab result tracking guys must sign.

"Violate these terms and we destroy you..."

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Jbrich
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I would love for Steve Kirsch to get your analysis and amplify it bigly.
Cantseeit
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Aint it great. Article about a Moderna lot being recalled in OC. No info on why. Then straight to the shot pump... like even bad news is just an opportunity to pump the shot. They are well programmed...
Fdprefect
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Laurenz wrote..
They design it so it delivers most of its cargo in the intestines.
This is always a concern. I'm in cancer treatment with a BTK inhibitor which is heavily affected by grapefruit (as are many other oral meds). It took a lot of testing to find out about this issue.

I don't know about injected "vaccines" like this but I would imagine there are all kinds of things that the drug companies don't know about WRT the effect of their drug in various situations due to the complete lack of testing.

So they are learning a lot these days by giving it to everyone. YAY.

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Blanca
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A friend who works for one of the largest defense contractors just sent me this email regarding his request for a religious accomodation.

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They approved the accommodation.

but the list of caveats is long... masking (3-layer cloth), no travel, no in-person meetings, possible testing, abiding by as yet unwritten workplace rules, social distancing...

the kicker is that it EXPIRES in a year!


How do you successfully run a company with these kinds of restrictions? Who cares? Collect the salary while looking for something else.
Puntastic
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Such wonderful work! So annoying that the VAERS interface isn't set up to allow for you to do this kind of work within their website. The only way to really look at their data is to download and analyse it yourself. I've done that for a few friends that have rare medical conditions - and yes, THOSE conditions appears for COVID some up to 30x the rate of other vaccines - IE: they appear 1 or 2 times in other vaccines (if they appear at all) but listed 30-60 times for COVID.

I love working with data sets, but my crappy computer couldn't handle the vast information downloaded from VAERS to answer any of my generalized questions easily. (I miss having my own website with access to make SQL databases.)

@Tickerguy, Karl, you should definitely contact Jessica Rose, PhD and Steve Kirsch; . Rose has been doing COPIOUS amounts of work with VAERS data and Kirsch has been taking that kind of information and basically waging an information war: https://www.skirsch.io/

Here are some additional questions I have (some will be more complex to run than others):
1) Did you just do the US reports, or did you take the VAERS global reports too?

2) Did you happen to sort the Lots by State (and/or country if global) distribution? (IE: were there more deaths in specific states than others?)

3) did you happen to look at the Lots by co-morbidities? (IE: did more people with diabetes, CHF, etc die or was that info left blank)

4) I don't know how hard it would be to pull info from say Yellow Card (UK reporting system) or other global entities to see if they have the same problems. I would be interested to know if AstraZeneca, the Russian one, etc have similar results with their different Lot numbers.

5) Random observation: I find the dates of "spike deaths" reported to be VERY interesting: They can easily be connected to 2nd dose/booster doses. But have you run any reports by lot number and boosting (IE: Did anyone somehow receive TWO bad lot shots?)

For those asking: MANY people have been trying to get the URF - underreporting factor. So far, those attempts have been unsuccessful. https://trialsitenews.com/why-wont-the-c....

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Sillerjf
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Very strange
3 companies all having the same graphs....no, not a coincidence.
Maybe youre thinking QA, but for all three to have the same graphs the same QA problems - no. Once is incident, two is coincident, three is either a problem, or in this case coordinated.
This was by design and was coordinated amongst those companies.
The lots have varying amounts of active ingredients, whatever those might be.
And no, they were not counting on gathering feedback from Vaers, they know what they did.
What would be interesting would be a demographic/ geographic overlay on those deaths.
But for some reason this makes me think that it was only the first punch of a 1 then 2.
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@Frat

Isn't this something that the regulatory bodies were created to do - specifically to notice this kind of bull**** and act in the country's best interest to protect us from same!? smiley

Next zoom call I can tell you how a FR-audit works with all those regulatory bodies, and it is not just FDA it is all of them.smiley

And No my ? further up in the comments is NO JOKE! I wish it was.

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Londoncat
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@Tickerguy - I found a site to search the VAERS reporting data and did a search for deaths in my father's state it see how many might have been reported from his home town. Out of the 6 deaths that I am aware of, his reported death is the only report showing up in the system (and that is because I reported it myself). But I am not surprised - the hospital isn't going to report them, 80+ year old spouse isn't going to report it, and if the younger family members don't report it, it doesn't get reported at all apparently.

I did a broader search for the entire state of KS for vax deaths in 2021 and it's only showing 3-4 post-vax deaths in my father's general age range (79-83). That is ridiculous. Between May-June 2021, 5 of his friends alone died and everyone it town was convinced it was the Moderna shot that was responsible due to the similar symptoms of strokes and blood clots (and that is just the deaths that I know of from my father's small social group) - I was guessing I was going to get hundreds of results. At this rate, I'm wondering if VAERS is even capturing 5% of the cases where adverse events occur more than a week or two days after the second shot.
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@Guerin - It is not uncommon at all to NOT limit distribution in terms of area or state by lot, and there's zero evidence it was here. One of the worst lots has AE reports from 49 states. When you get into lots with few AE reports of course you're going to see a bad "fill rate" on the state map, but that does not imply you didn't distribute it there. You need statistical power (lots of reports) to be able to make that statement, and where we have statistical power it appears they widely distributed all of the lots.

@Sillerjf - I don't buy coordination; someone would blow the whistle, as there are too many people who have to know. The most-likely explanation is what I put forward in the article: This sort of vectored process, using the body to produce the thing that is the antigen, is medically unsound and cannot be done safely if the thing produced is pathogenic because you cannot exert sufficient manufacturing control to prevent this sort of outcome.

It's not individual susceptibility -- if it was then there would be no "hot" lots; the bad would be everywhere. It isn't, therefore it can't be individual susceptibility. In a small sample size random chance could produce that but not across 100 million+ people. No way.

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