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Twiggler
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Heartlander
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Incept: 2021-02-25

Kansas
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@Maddmaxx

Never mind, I think I may have found the paper. It can be downloaded from here:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/....

This paper, however, seems to show that transmission from vaxxed and unvaxxed is about the same. The only subset where it looks like the vaxxed were twice as likely to transmit as vaxxed was a very small number of people: Low Ct values were found for 7 of 24 (29%) unvaxxed versus 9 of 11 (82%) vaxxed. But that is such a small sample size, skeptics could easily discount it. The study did 699 swabs altogether, and over that whole larger sample, it mostly showed roughly equal percentages for vaxxed and unvaxxed.

The study was done in June and July, and of course, things have changed since then.
Mannfm11
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Incept: 2009-02-28

DFW, Tx
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It is amazing they let this out. I doubt everything they put out, as it later gets disproven. It is clear 17% of the population couldn't have provided a vector for the last spike. They would have had to concentrate, exclusively within the 17%, all of which would have to be susceptible. Not possible.

So, what did they do, going backwards? They claimed people not past the 14th day, of their second jab were not vaccinated. That means no one was immune with the jabs, for 5 weeks, as you have to wait 3 weeks between jabs. If that is the case, the study in May was flawed as well, because a high number didn't get a jab, well into April.

The interesting data is the biggest spikes occurred in countries that had broad jab coverage. Someone posted a graph, from Singapore. Prior jabs, Singapore had almost nonexistent cases, then boom.

There are other things. Deaths, from jabs? Are they excluding those within those windows as well? The entire game has become disinformation, from the officials.

Who says the jabs protect one from death? I don't believe it. They indicated earlier you would get CV19, if you took the jabs. As the horse**** rolls down the mountain.

Someone mentioned taking risks. I have been kind of like Karl. I go somewhere, I'm careful, especially, in bathrooms. I have been to large, unmasked gatherings, some where almost no one was jabbed. Outside of ragweed, I have not had any health issues. My sister and brother in law came back, from Missouri, after July 4th and both had a strong case. They used the protocols to get better. Chances are good, the place had been full of virus spreading jabbed.

If I even think I'm sick, I sit back and check my temperature. I do this, for 2 reasons. One, I don't want to spread the disease. Second, I know it is important to get a head start on treatment. It has been over a decade, since I last had a fever. If exposure to other viruses convey protection, I have likely run into them.

Interesting Lockheed Martin wrote that threat. Are there 2 bigger causes of economic decline and misery, in the USA than defense and medicine? These are the 2 main NAZI commands, along with the tech spy industry. Look at all the mind bending bull**** we have been put through, over the past 80 years. In the end, they have put us right were they pretended they were preventing us from going.

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Vernonb
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@edwardteach..

Yes my first thought was that this is the most effed up sting operation in history.

@Eterernalblue

Here's the issue. If the previous vex has wrecked or compromised the body's immune response system how can giving a booster even help in such an environment. This applies to any vaccine in a potentially compromised immune response environment.

Furthermore the body will take the mRNA and produce even more spiked protein. That for certain is a greater recipe for disaster- ever escalating risks but no real benefit from each booster.

This whole thing is an act of desperation.


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Throughput
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@Bluto
Yes, Fred Ashmore has given several interviews, what he did is amazing. The record fell a few times last year during the height of covid when most people were off the roads.
Jw.
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@Bluto

He also said in the same sentence that "the COVID vaccine is safe and effective"... The Republicans hardly ever stand up for what is truly right. It is always some sort of compromise and they eventually cow-tow to the tyrannical side of things. Texas no required vaccination "mandate" caving in 3....2.....1..... But hey it gets the votes, and here we are...same old ****, same old political parties.
Heartlander
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Kansas
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@Vernonb
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This whole thing is an act of desperation.

An act by people who don't mind expending the lives of millions of their fellow human beings.
Susanlauren
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I believe the answer to the remaining question is that the immune system issues with the COVID vaxx extend to all sorts of other viruses, auto immune diseases and bacteria.

The reason I believe this to be the case is because of the incidents in cancer, resurgence in shingles, epstein barr virus, etc. among the vaxxed. Ryan Cole, MD has become a modern day prophet.

My question is whether the immune system damage from the vaxx is temporary or permanent? And how is the immune system impacted by subsequent boosters? We will know soon enough.

I don't think anyone is going to like the answers to these questions.
Nickdanger
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This is another video by Dr. Nathan Thompson, the Chiropractor, that was posted the other day. The original video evidently was over the target, because YT pulled it. This talks about the immune system, without the "inflammatory" reference to "the virus". I've listened to several of his videos now, and am impressed. I think this is the type of doctor that is needed to avoid having to be involved with the mainstream medical system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Liobqn....

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Oilprospector
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@Vernonb

On further pontification what a brilliant idea get rid of the criminal class. Doing society a favor!
Maddmaxx
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@Heartlander Yes, a small study, but taken with the other indicia of vaccinated asymptomatic spread certainly paints a clear picture. The Vietnam hospital case showed asymptomatic spread as apparently did the Israeli hospital case recently. There is also the French Guyana miners study and the IM Doc said he saw it in his practice, too. Since they won't test for this stuff, this is what you're left with. Now, it's possible that unvaxxed are asymptomatic spreaders, as well. Although a small sample, the U of Wisconsin study seems to suggest it happens less often.
Fdprefect
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Incept: 2021-03-24

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Thomdd1959 wrote..
Don't jab & drive! Heart attacks can kill others.
"But, but, but, the vaccine mandates are like seatbelt laws!!" -TwitterKaren

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Chromehill
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@Bluto - I would not take it that way. The EEOC policy clearly states that the reasonable accommodation may not be granted if it creates and undo hardship on business operations. It is probably why the clock is stopped for the employees who have filed for exemptions.

I think the Feds will tread lightly in that area. Many jobs have clearly demonstrated that they can be performed from home as demonstrated by the mass teleworking the last 18 months.

In my religious exemption letter, I acknowledged the EEOC guideline and stated that I have been teleworking the last 18 months, do not interface with the public at all and do not need to interface with my peers in person as demonstrated by the last 18 months and my performance evaluations.

Also, rumor is the Feds will be teleworking more days per week than working in the office whenever the return to office occurs.

Deny religious exemptions on the basis that a reasonable accommodation cannot be provided for many Fed jobs is asking to be sued and lose big based upon mass telework the last 18 months.

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Mosaik
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Incept: 2021-09-10

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@Oilprospector

"On further pontification what a brilliant idea get rid of the criminal class. Doing society a favor!"

Yes, a great idea. That was the story line of The Madwoman of Chaillot, a play by a French playwright (can't recall name). Invite all of the capitalists to a tea party in her basement flat in Paris (which, she discovers, has an unknown entrance to the Paris sewer system), usher them into the sewer, and then lock the door! Wish we could dispatch all of the WEFers in like manner.
Bluto
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@Chromehill

I work mostly in the office. If they DO deny a religious exemption because they cannot "reasonably accommodate me", it seems like they have just admitted they failed to provide a "safe workplace" for the last 18 months. Checkmate, or am I wrong?

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Droplet
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Incept: 2007-07-29

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Could the immune compromise from vaccines also result in less chance of immune overreaction in severe covid cases? This might explain why the vaccinated has less chances of hospitalization (severe covid).
Vernonb
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@Oilprospector

And what happens when the powers that be label you as a criminal for simply speaking out?

Death penalty for all crimes - but make it a slow, painful, lingering death? Talk about cruel and unusual.

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Factsaredead
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Incept: 2021-09-14

Red State
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Just had a follow-on graphic for @Tickerguy to illustrate the actual trend, not just point in time data for week 40. I seriously don't understand how the aggregate over-18 data does not tell even the most ignorant political functionary that this **** is BAD news. The gap is huge and getting bigger by the week.
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600,000? https://revealnews.org/article/us-vetera....
Drifter
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Maddmaxx
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"For your reading pleasure.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-....
2021-10-13 18:01:13"

Count me as skeptical as to the claim of most of the ICU patients being unvaxxed.
Drifter
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They are most likely throwing the 'partially vaxxed' in with the unvaxxed, which is bs.

I don't believe it either. I haven't seen such lopsided numbers anywhere else.
However, what it does tell us that even with a vaxxed population topping 90% plus, people are still getting hammered. The next two months should be very interesting as vax potency wanes.

Canadian-loon
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Incept: 2010-04-08

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Sorry if i missed this earlier in the thread, i work for a health authority and shared this UK report with our lead epidemiologist, her comment was that because the number of unvaccinated is much lower, statistically the number of positives they can have is low compared to the number of positives the 75% (guessing at that number) vaccinated population will have, even when you break it down by hundreds of thousands.

This answer still doesn't address the high number of breakthrough cases in the vaccinated population.
Tickerguy
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@Canadian-loon -- Tell that stupid, vapid **** that the UK rate is per-100,000 and thus IS ALREADY ADJUSTED FOR THE PERCENTAGE THAT ARE VACCINATED.

She is thus either LYING intentionally or too stupid be qualified to consume oxygen.

In short that so-called "epidemiologist" should be flensed on live TV.

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Whatjusthappened
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Incept: 2020-03-29

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KD --

Smell the glorious aroma of F E A R in the DoD

Dept of Air Force F E A R is right here; the amount of legal eggshells being tip-toed upon is very telling:
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Chromehill
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@Bluto - that would seem to be checkmate for you regarding a lawsuit. The Obama EEOC won cases for religious exemptions for the flu shot, should seem to be a slam dunk for winning religious exemptions for Covid since there is recent precedent.

Of course, winning in court takes time and you might be unemployed.

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