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Incept: 2021-07-20

gods country
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Are we getting to a short the phonebook moment?

The wife works for a large supply chains solution company. Procedures are currently being written for vax noncompliance. Once the OSHA date is given, dominos (employees) will fall fast. I do not see a way out. I think this is a controlled demolition. Pharma companies will be a drop in the bucket. Will not everything contract as less work is being done efficiently? Will it not take years/decades to return to 2019 production/distribution levels?
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Incept: 2008-12-09

Spokane WA
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Flew American down to Phoenix yesterday, burning the last of our 'mileage plan' benefits accrued pre-Covid. This might be the last time we ever fly.

Packed flight. No issues, other than security at the Spokane airport was the biggest cluster**** I've seen since right after 9/11. TSA seemed about half-staffed.

Plane and airport, fully masked. Outside the airport, no one. First class got booze and food; the rest of the plane got a tiny bottled water and some cookies and were ignored the rest of the flight.


Our small company received a notice Wednesday from a large engineering firm that uses us consultants this week, with a demand for a certification of our vaxx status, stating that any employee of ours going on the campus of a state, federal or compliant private company had to be fully vaxxed, period, and that we 'certify' that the employee status is so.

Still sitting on my computer desktop; it'll be sitting there awhile. We have vaxxed employees that can go on those campuses; I'm not sure those campuses will exist in six months to a year though.

Daughter was sKarened into taking the Moderna shot earlier in the year, despite our protestations and evidence that it was a bad idea. No ill effects that I know of though.

Son confirms that Amazon has been having major problems with boxes, packaging materials, etc. for a solid three months if not six; corporate doesn't seem to be taking this as anything other than a purely temporary blip. Given that their 'senior' people in many divisions have all of a year of experience in them (meaning realistically, NONE when it comes to trends or long term planning), they're likely going to be ****ed and done when they least expect it.

OK then.


We're clearly headed for collapse. Everything. Business, banking (with an aim toward nationalizing our banking system, yeah that'll end well with the seizure of all assets and the elimination of your retirement fund, savings etc.), medical system, utility grid and military in the planned demolition.

The worst though is the destruction of the social contracts that you have with other people. There will be no trust. There CAN BE no trust.

I used to consider that a tinfoil scenario. It's all too real right now, and coming to a zip code you live in. Probably in a few weeks now.

No one is ready for this; I don't care who you are.

If you're spotted in a G5 flying out of some city, I hope you upgraded to the ballistic protection package, because there's going to be a lot of commoners looking to eat an Elite for dinner, and your plane is not a means of escape.

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Incept: 2018-01-29

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For most of my career, I was told by former Koch people "You should really work at a Koch company. They have parts you would love!"

And I did love... parts. Very little personal politics was allowed. No hanky panky at the office was tolerated (as in they catch you, you go away today). Decisions were supposed to be based on a framework, and in many ways they were made that way.

But after a while I realized the game. They had structured some work to be like a pay to win game. Mentally incentivize you to worker harder and longer for micro payments. Raises? Very hard to get. You get a promotion, but it was on a trial basis for a year before a raise. Move up again, in that time? Clock starts over. So I was managing 110 people for a very cheap salary.

In other words lawful evil rather than chaotic evil.

They are doing the mandate as far as I can tell, but they are waiting for a final rule and plan to file a court case once issued.

I miss the resources of that place though. Now, I have to manage crews, projects, and clean the locker room. But that isn't all bad.
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Incept: 2021-09-13

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Somehow, Moderna ($MRNA) is only down about 1% today, and still higher than what I shorted on yesterdays open. still, Im expecting a 100% return on my money, shortly. As TG has pointed out, Moderna has no other product, in fact they have never had a single medication approved including this corona stab.
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Incept: 2020-04-08

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Whether intentional or not the Biden administration is destroying the American economy. The problems are already apparent and they will get greatly worse unless the Agenda is dropped NOW.

Yet I don't see the Agenda being dropped. The DC mayor already extended the "emergency" till January. Every Communist in America is planning to use Covid & the medical system to hedge the 2022 elections. That plan is going to collide with the reality of a crumbling economy, inflation, supply shortages and crashing home prices.

And this will a fall on Biden and his team.

I don't fear the "white man" doing the Michael Douglas "Falling Down". I fear a huge swath of the population saying "screw it with the law and societal norms, I'm going to do as the 'elite' do and steal whatever I want. They cheat & lie and trample others. Why not do the same"

And that will be the end of it.

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Incept: 2021-08-02

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Anyone care to comment?

More proof the vaxes are a failure.
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Incept: 2020-04-03

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2 random sources for total "cases/death per M" in USA 132K/2.1K, 135K/2.2K and Globe 30.5K/0.6K, 30.0K/0.6K

I assume if an infection is serious it would be reported and there are enough false positives in PCR "cases" to offset people who didn't report, so infection rate has been between 3% and 13%, death rate between 0.06% and 0.2% if those stats are representative.

Where is the emergency? I witnessed Regan's dementia and my opinion is that Biden has it worse. If EVERY DC rep was replaced what would change? They have been replaced over the past 50 years and things have not gotten any closer to what Framers wrote. There has to be a firewall between lobbyists and DC. It would take something very drastic.

They are ALL complicit. NONE have stood up in front of this country, where they have the best platform and knowledge to so so.

I laughed a little seeing that the testing rate in USA has been 1.9M for every M. Maybe high testing is correlated to high counts? But Denmark stats suggest everybody on average has been tested 14 times LOL with a reported case rate half of USA. Game is a good word for it.
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Incept: 2020-02-07

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Better watch this 'un before they take it down:

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Incept: 2016-05-25

PA - Wolf's lair :-(
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@Wakeupcall, yes the "Elite" will be screwed. Once they kill or disable many in the middle class, it will be that much less income of people paying subscription services to phone, internet, cable, insurances, rents, mortgages, etc...

Funny, my daughter just having graduated from college (teaching degree) received an advert in the mail from a local MIC hospital/healthcare service. "Better Begins When Healers Like You Join A Hospital Like Us." Hmmmm, after firing the unvexxed they are targeting recent grads of any degree & likely jabbed to fill the jobs. So your next healthcare worker will have a degree in English Lit or Women's Studies...
Posts: 93
Incept: 2019-03-14

Let's go Brandon, WI
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A friend's son went straight from HS into the Marines 2+ years ago... super smart, huge Trump fan, has advanced quickly and gonna be a lifer, loves the US and if you met him, gives you hope for our youth and the future.

He has been on Biden's detail since Jan... has gone from, "You protect and sacrifice at all costs" to "He doesn't have many fans" to "No comment" to now just smiles when you ask about his "world" with Gampy. No direct exchanges with Joey, was part of advance team for Gampy's Chi-town visit yesterday.

Full disclosure- unsure if he's been vaxxed... will ask next time he's in town but believe he has no choice and know he's anti-vaxx

"It's easy to go along with the crowd, Find later on that your say ain't allowed,Oh that's the way to find what you've been missing, So I'm heading out to the highway, Gonna do it my way,I got nothing to lose at all"- Judas Priest
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Incept: 2019-07-30

Alexandria VA
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How in the world did HR get so powerful?
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Incept: 2020-09-21

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Your piece today resonates with me.

I've always been a hard worker. In early and stay late. I take on extra work on my own when I see it needs to be done and/or I'm the best person for the task. It's just how I'm built. I never asked for or expected anything special in return.

On a personal note, I'm known to be a nice guy and a peacemaker. I'm the only one in my family that still has a relationship with everyone in the family because I'm like "Switzerland". Neutral. Rational.

But I've changed. Remarkable to me, because grown adults usually don't change much. I'm not the same employee. I'm the same person. I've learned to be selfish instead of selfless, and I don't like it one bit. Something has been taken from me.

I've even had some thoughts that people would think crazy with regard to what I'd do if someone I care about was injured by the therapeutics.

And if that can happen to someone like me, it can happen to just about anyone. I'm shocked we haven't seen a major event linked to the mandates yet. But we will.

This country was built on so many things that no longer exist in the majority of people. And it deserves what it's going to get. All China has to do is wait.
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Incept: 2021-09-10

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Some of Biden's outrageous comments/lies:

"The fact is, this has been a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Unvaccinated. The unvaccinated overcrowd our hospitals, overrunning emergency rooms and intensive care units. The unvaccinated patients are are leaving no room for someone with a heart attack or in need of a cancer operation and so much more because they cant into the ICU. They cant get into the operating rooms.

The unvaccinated also put our economy at risk because people are reluctant to go out. And think about this: Even in places where there is no restriction on going to restaurants and gyms and movie theaters, people are not going in anywhere near the numbers because theyre worried theyre going to get sick.

Ive tried everything in my power to get people vaccinated. First thing I did when I was sworn into office back on January 20th is I bought enough vaccine right off the bat to vaccinate every single American. There were only 4 million Americans who had been vaccinated up to that point, even though the virus had been around.

Second, we made everyone eligible to get a vaccination and made it easy and convenient for them to find a place to get vaccinated over 80,000 places around the country.

Third, we gave everyone ample time and information to deal with their concerns. We developed hundreds of million wed millions of dollars in incentives you did here in the city and the state of of Illinois and cities and community organizations to encourage vaccinations. Governor Pritzer Pritzker, youve done one hell of a job, in terms of encouraging people before we even get to the mandate.

But even after all those efforts, we still had more than a quarter of people in the United States who were eligible for vaccinations but didnt get the shot.

And we know there is no other way to beat the pandemic than to get the vast majority of Americans vaccinated. Its as simple as that.

And to to spread to our children, to spread throughout society and at our hospitals the risk of other variants its all dangerous and obvious, but were still not there. . . ."

Getting incoherent . . .
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Incept: 2021-04-04

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Appropo of the horrible job numbers, hubbie and I on the first day of our road trip, about 30 miles north of Huntsville, at a well known gas/food/gift plaza whose moniker is a chipmunk. Every Texan knows what I mean.

It was Friday 10/8 at 1 pm. Not in the summer, not a big holiday.

The place was standing room only, packed, you could barely move, not with snowbirds, but with families with young kids and everybody else 20s to 50s. Every 4th vehicle was a big RV with either a family or a working age couple.

Shouldn't those kids be at school? Shouldn't those working people be at work?

I think a whole lotta people have dropped out of society.

Meanwhile there were help wanted signs all over tbe place.

This does not bode well.

Oh, and almost no masks and those with the nose free or hanging off the ear or filthy dirty.
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Incept: 2011-12-08

United States
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Pods wrote..
... I will not apply for an exemption. I am not religious ...
The Great Church of BFYTW does not require anyone to be "religious" in any particular manner or by any particular definition.

Why not? BFYTW.

Do you see how that works?

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Incept: 2021-05-18

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@Kokobeware Thanks for posting Berenson's stuff. With just what he's spotlighted in the last couple of days, it's very clear that anyone who doesn't drop their mandates immediately is evil--not just earnest and uninformed.
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Incept: 2009-10-06

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This mandate situation has an Atlas-Shrugged-ish feel to it.
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Incept: 2021-05-18

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I so hope you are right Karl. I have friends in health care who will likely be unemployed by Thanksgiving. I am walking with them through the uncertainty and anxiety. It is tough to witness. I very much want to be wrong in my assessment of this situation. I agree we are headed toward a reset and I am hoping it is one that the powers that be did not plan on and one that is 180 degree opposite of what they intended. Maybe it is darkest before the dawn.

I hope so, too, and believe it is true--but a dying snake can still bite people. I hope your friends' employers order a pause and re-assess. In any event, it's fortunate they have you to help them. I'm starting to grope around and figure out things like the radically changed insurance market, the issues around whether, how, and where to work, etc... I haven't been on the job market since the '90s. Fortunately, I'm a Christian and am confident things will work out. They always have, and I've jumped out of the plane without a reserve parachute more than once. Not all have that comfort.
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Incept: 2011-08-16

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During her press conference today, Psaki said that 25%, no wait, it's less than that... 20% of the country not getting the widely available, fully FDA approved vaccine is largely to blame for Biden's slumping approval numbers. Though I can't imagine it's the case, perhaps there are some in the admin who tie his approval ratings to clotshot holdouts?
Posts: 287
Incept: 2009-10-23

On a rock in the river
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Well it finally came down 12-8.

I've taken two pharmaceutical doses since March and have a tube of paste,= 4 or so more doses. Wife got first Pfizer fearing lack of visitation but was locked out anyway.

Engineering firm with govt contracts. I think the firm resisted as long as they felt they could. Might post the email later.

Couple questions.

Would your firm be indemnified from liability if you are required to vax to keep your job and you developed complications from the jab or illnesses due to masking? Drug cos. are, I guess doctors are. How far does it extend?

How would folks here proceed if they wanted to keep their job.
Delaying action, emails requests for info, etc? Religious? Medical? Do any exemptions fly Federally?

Is this the step to fire the free thinkers?

A motion to adjourn and go fishing is always in order.
--me channeling Heinlein
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Incept: 2009-10-23

On a rock in the river
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Follow up post for clarity.
My firm works on interstate roads jobs, along with local area projects and private development. Obviously, the state/fed contracts are the cash cow. Some very rich partners.

A motion to adjourn and go fishing is always in order.
--me channeling Heinlein
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Incept: 2021-10-03

Marin California
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"did US vaccine mandates increase uptake? or is this just another exercise in taking credit for the sunrise?"
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Incept: 2020-04-08

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Where are the lawyers? Where is Congress?

At the same time Biden is ready to fire government employees & contractors for not being jabbed, those who were jabbed HAVE greatly diminished viral resistance!

The Biden jab is a pure political stunt. It serves no health benefit. If the Jackass can do this then what stops any president from dictating any drug medication for Americans?

I am astonished at the cowardice of America's leaders. At the same time I see the implosion and have to say: You got what you deserved.

I have some contacts who work highly specialized DOD projects. They say the teams have zero redundancy. They are already stretched to support their commitments and if just 1 or 2 people leave, the work will grind to a halt.

Biden might as well hang a Chinese flag from the White House. He is leaving the military totally unprepared to defend a Covid banned playground swing set.

And about George Washington and his smallpox vaccine mandate? That is how the military works. The military in active war! And remember this key detail: George Washington was killed by his doctor bleeding him to death.

Trusting the medical experts very well can kill you
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Incept: 2009-04-18

Pickled in the brine of futility
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I cannot vouch for the accuracy/legitimacy of this twaddle, but fwiw:

"We must overcome the fear; we must stare it down and power through it. We have no choice." - K. Denninger 4/3/20

"This is madness." - @Susanlauren 5/18/21
"You just eat it. It does not taste good. Whatever. Just eat it." - @Ann_Barnhardt
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Incept: 2021-03-26

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After 28 yrs as an engineer doing CPU manufacturing and storage device driver development and architecture, learn that company will implement osha rule on the mandate once it is revealed.

Your company's managers have got to be real dumb SOB's to flush a guy like you out the door.

It's all in the mitochondria.
No liability, No mandates
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