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2021-10-08 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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Yesterday Biden scolded us all about how "vax mandates work."

Well, not really.

Yes, you might get people who are over-levered (their fault) and unable to erect the middle finger to "comply."

But in doing so you permanently destroyed their willingness to put 100% into their job.  Now they are all pissed off, working only to the minimum required to not get fired, they hate their boss, they hate the company, they hate every screaming Karen who wagged their finger at them, they hate Biden and they'd like to see all of them bankrupt, gone, even dead.  In today's tight labor market you can't replace them either; who are you going to hire?  The bong-smoker you paid for a year to sit around and get stoned?  How joyous and hopeful is such a person?  Are they inclined to spend on luxuries? Take on more leverage and build businesses, families and prosperity?  When you threaten to force them to do whatever you demand again -- and again -- and again -- even at the cost of their own health, money and life?

The economic damage from this is permanent.  So is firing those who won't comply.  Oh, they'll go find something else to do -- but odds are those independent thinkers are the top 5 or 10% of any organization.

Get rid of them and it's like firing five ordinary people for the one you did.  Of course nobody thinks of that, but then again not many people are smart when it comes to this sort of thing.  They should be -- but they're not.

Never mind the defense contractors.  The problem is much worse there.  A handful of people are key resources.  They leave, the project isn't deliverable anymore because it can't be completed and you can't just go hire a replacement because of necessary security clearances.  It takes a year or more to get a new TS approved.  Does that new engineer also need SCI or (god forbid) SAP access for your nice project?  That takes even longer.  Never mind those who "go along" and play nice-nice with your "mandate"; how sure are you they're still loyal and not willing to stab the United States in the back?  After all you just ****ed them so..... you didn't think this through very well, did you?  What happens when two months after their wife gets jabbed -- because you demanded it as she's on the health insurance plan at the company -- she gets breast cancer?  Now how loyal is that person?

Of course there were the lies.  You won't "get" Covid if you get jabbed, so said Biden.  Biden's own government has analyzed that and found it is not true -- of those over 65 as of August 7th 60% of the hospitalized Covid-19 cases were fully vaccinated.  It's almost-certainly higher now.  He lied and he knew it.

Those who he wants to fire if they won't follow his dictatorial Mengele-style mandate know it too; many of them see it every day because they're health-care workers.

Some of them run around with T-shirts on and preach at others.  They're lying to themselves as well as everyone else; perhaps THEY had a bad reaction or worse, they see the data, they see people choking to death in 2 days and know they're probably ****ed so in a fit of pique they insist on dragging you down into the hole with them.  They know good and damned well that the jabs wear off and thus don't work "as advertised" -- and that they have a nasty side effect profile.  Ever been around someone who's addicted and tries to take you down the bowl with them when they know they're getting flushed?

Biden thinks he "wins" with such actions.  No, he doesn't.  He's ruined the economy.  That's done now.  A person, once coerced can't be un-coerced.  You can't get back what you destroyed.  It's gone.  And that's without all the bad real effects that might come to such a person medically and which the government does not pay for, all of which, if any of them occur, will further damage or destroy that person's productivity and wealth along with their health.  The odds of this blowing up within the next few months are extremely high and both Biden and the Republicans, who have refused to get out in front of this and call bull**** on it will own the whole thing.

What if all of this breaks the supply chain in ways that can't be foreseen or covered? The entire nation could find itself back in the 1800s technologically in a matter of weeks.  Our cities, in particular, built as they are today make survival at that level of technology impossible.

And of course there's the 900lb Gorilla in the room nobody wants to talk about: Some people may choose to go hunting, having determined that since their choices in life have been taken from them everything they choose to do in retribution for that is free.  You have exactly no way to know who those individuals might be or how many Biden created yesterday.  The insane ones are easy to detect and catch as they tend to threaten and brag, plus since they're insane they're quite dumb when you get down to it.

The guy who's just had enough of that **** will say nothing to anyone until he decides to turn his last $2 into a corporate executive's worst nightmare.

Even worse is what happens if the general public as a whole realizes they've been had -- that these mandates are nothing more than a bunch of *******s drunk on power and the people as a whole turn on these ghouls.  Impossible?  Hardly.  All it takes is for a critical mass of so-called "rare" breakthroughs and deaths to occur.  We already know the jabs wear off and the virus mutates around them, exactly as was predicted before we started.  Nobody knows what the number of people is (or, more likely, who) that have to get hosed for public opinion to flip 180 degrees into immediate white-hot hatred.  With an approval rating under 40% less than one year into his term Biden is begging for trouble -- and might well find it.

There's not a damned thing anyone will be able to do about it if it happens either.  200+ million Americans, including most of the military and the majority of the cops who had their health permanently compromised, including their children .vs. who?  A bunch of business executives, federal and state government stooges?  That won't be pretty and the odds are rising.

I thought I had heard the most-stupid thing that a President could ever say the other week out of Biden.

I was wrong: He topped it yesterday with a propaganda piece full of knowing lies that guaranteed an economic crash much worse than 2008, 2000 -- and possibly worse than 1929 and the 1930s.  It's in the bag folks.  Be ready because what that will set off is anyone's guess.

God may have shed his grace on America -- but you pissed and shat all over it.

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Let's go, Brandon!
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The fully vaccinated are returning to concerts & sporting events and the office just as their jab antibodies are reaching their 6 month birthday. Theyve done the jab resisters a favor, taking their jobs. Its going to be a dark winter for the vaccinated.

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Fully vaccinated were more likely than unvaccinated persons to be infected by variants carrying mutations associated with decreased antibody neutralization (L452R, L452Q, E484K, and/or F490S) (78% versus 48%, p = 1.96e-08), but not by those associated with increased infectivity (L452R and/or N501Y) (85% versus 77%, p = 0.092).


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Exactly! You just took what was swirling around in my head and penned it into words. I'm watching this play out in people's lives in several different ways. At some point, the dam will break.
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The gerontocracy continues to govern the nation into chaos via:
1. Vaccine mandates for a disease that has a 99.5% survival rate.
2. Mask mandates that harm anyone who wears a filthy mask all day.
3. Ridiculous debt accumulation and money printing and inflation.
4. Endless, unwinnable wars.
5. Crushing taxes for the middle class and an incomprehensible tax code.
6. Inner cities that are cesspools of filth from the homeless defecating everywhere.
7. Insanely high medical costs.
8. Censorship of all dissent.
9. Closing churches and keeping the liquor and pot stores open.

I could go on. All of the above crush those who innovate and make the country work. Goodbye America. God shed his grace on thee but we abandoned him in favor of all sorts of ridiculous pursuits.
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and now i am forced to go and listen to what Xiden said yesterday to appreciate this piece fully. Thanks, i think.

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My hammer fell Monday. Nov 29th is the last day I will be paid to work.
Resume goes out today and they will get 0 notice when I leave.
My team has already lost our PhD level manager/mentor, we have a green scientist and have an open position for a senior scientist. With me gone that will be 2 senior scientist openings and team will be the green scientist (junior) and an engineer.
Oh, we have a $25 million commercial line arriving next month that needs validation and setup for a soon to be approved generic.
I will not apply for an exemption. I am not religious and I am fit medically. Only two options allowed.
So they have screwed themselves. Big time.
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"But in doing so you permanently destroyed their willingness to put 100% into their job."

I would argue this is also the reason for so many unfilled job openings: not mere skiving off, but the fact that it's been made abundantly clear that most jobs are now entirely temporary, and they, along with any hope of control over you economic life, can be whisked away from you in an instant by panicky mewling morons and their evil lying puppet masters.
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There are many dark sides to this beyond the economic impact. As the number of unvaccinated declines, the sanctions against them can be ratcheted up (even as the public health justification also declines even for a well-functioning vaccine).

It's having an impact on me. I haven't even had to submit my exemption request yet, but I'm probably going to be on the street before Thanksgiving. My productivity is... declining as I contemplate that. Even if I'm approved and can continue, I will probably leave reasonably soon. The bond is broken and it's not coming back. Plus, since I'm in a few meetings with managers, I've seen what they say behind closed virtual doors about their unvaccinated staff. Some are drooling at the prospect of being able to fire them, and they don't even know who they are yet. Some are gulag guard wannabees.

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@Whitehat

Pretty much everything said was the exact opposite of reality and the truth. I was actually kind of impressed, in a "Holy ****, did I really just hear that bundle of lies and bull**** and no one called him on it?"

I'm convinced whoever is pulling his strings (that feeble-minded fool just reads the screen, worse than even Obama who believed the bull**** he spewed) really wants the civil strife that they're pushing for. I will put my Tin hat on for a second and say it's for one of two reasons, although they're not mutually exclusive:

1) They want a violent reaction from Joe 6-Pack, namely middle class white, heterosexual, Christian males, so they can then move onto the next phase: Operation Confiscate Every Firearm

and/or

2) They want the unjabbed to be demoralized, dejected and defunded - as in, you are destitute and ready to do anything they want all to further the Great Reset


I used to believe the above was all bull****. I no longer do.

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IBM just announced there US work force must be vaccinated by December 8 or they will no longer get paid. Reason, they are contractors for the Federal Government.

Here was a perfect opportunity for IBM to errect the middle finger and call Brandon's bluff. The Feds are a huge customer of mainframe computer systems, there is exactly one provider in the world for mainframe computer systems, IBM.

Had IBM not folded, good luck to the feds getting any thing related to their mainframes fixed.

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@Pods

May I humbly suggest that for the next 7ish weeks, you do absolutely dick-all in furtherance of their goals and the project? Not so much as to actively sabotage it, but absolutely do the bare minimum (or less) to advance the timeline. Take sick time, take PTO, have a "family emergency" where you need a few days off, even unpaid if necessary.

Stick it to them GOOD and HARD before the drop-dead date. Biden's puppeteers created this monster and your company bought in fully. So... ****'em. ****'em ALL.

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Great article KD. Regarding the coercion, a decent analogy is a woman who is in an abusive relationship, but stays in it for the kids.

Yes, she still cooks the meals, plans the weekends, pickups the kids from school, and even spreads her legs once in awhile. Think she enjoys that?

Once the kids turn 18, things change.

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Long popcorn, as they say. I'm in an ok spot for now on the work front, but I by no means labor under the illusion that **** couldn't go sideways in a heartbeat. It didn't have to be this way.
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I saw this article mentioning 30% of AA pilots are not vaccinated:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10....

Not that I ever plan on flying again, but this, to me, encapsulates the major problems we are going to be seeing soon. How does this airline plan on surviving when 30 percent of its primary means of production is taken out in one day (The day before Thanksgiving)? Extrapolate that across the economy and you are looking at an immeasurable **** fire.
Your mention of the top 5-10% of an organization reminds me of when the company I retired from decided to outsource a large percentage of the engineering to the Philippines. That was the day some of the best RIP code programmers, heater chip, and ASIC designers walked out. Throw in the multicultural mess from HR and you get a majorly crippled operation.
I'm glad I am semi-retired working remotely on my farm.
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Another aspect to this is that the few companies who still manufacturer in the US, including ones related to "national security" (often by law), intentionally chose the manufacturing facilities to be out in the boonies. So far out, where "even the Methodists handle snakes", as someone once said.

To maximize profits, they intentionally selected locations with low taxes, low regulations, business-friendly laws, low property values, low wages, and low crime. In other words, not just "red" states, but some of the "reddest" counties in those states. The "vax" rates in those places is probably around 30% among the general population, but even lower among "males with mechanical assembly skills" (i.e., "production workers")

Think Bubba is going to take the clot shot when option B is working at his brother's machine shop 30 miles away for more money and less bull****?

Best case scenario is production lines shut down due to lack of workers. Do you think the remaining (vaxxed) workers are going to double their output for the same pay? Or maybe the purple-haired HR gal can relocate temporarily to BFE and work the production line? By the way, production facilities usually don't allow cell phones on the line, sometimes these buildings are so far out, you can't even get signal!!!

Worst case scenario is a more permanent shutting down of the lines....

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Whatever happened to faith in Jesus and His PROMISE of eternal life -- and His admonition to not fear the death of the body but rather, the death of YOUR SOUL?
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I have said this for a few months. Why would you work in a restaurant or bar when at any time one of the multiple layers of government can decide, for even non existent reasons, to shut you down?
They really really don't want certain types of people to pop off. They might think they do.
Hell I don't want that, because I understand what it means.

Reason: repeat
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@Frat Most large corporations have so many policies and procedures, that it is impossible to get anything done by following all of them to the letter. So the productive employees often simply ignore the letter of those policies, and instead follow the general intent.

I expect all that to change now. Since those companies have just taken a giant dump on their employees, expect a lot of folks to start following those policies to the letter until their last day. Nothing productive will get done. Following those policies also generates a paper trail and tons of work for other folks to close the loop on. So there is an additional productivity loss.

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Whatever happened to bowing to God, not men?
Whatever happened to faith in Jesus and His PROMISE of eternal life -- and His admonition to not fear the death of the body but rather, the death of YOUR SOUL?
-- Heartlander 10/10/2021
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Karl Off Topic Here but interesting that mainstream is finally stating what you said. The Vaccine only lasts 2 months and then poof. No more benefits:

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Pfizer's COVID-19 immunity protection diminishes after 2 months, and it can reach as low as 20% after 4 months: studies

Pfizer vaccine at the Clalit Health Services in the Palestinian neighborhood of Beit Hanina, in the Israeli-annexed east Jerusalem, on August 29, 2021. Ahmad Gharabli/AFP/Getty Images
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Two recent studies found that Pfizer's immunity protection diminishes rapidly a few months after a person has their second dose.

However, one study noted that the vaccine's protection against death and hospitalization still remained as high as 96%.

The studies affirm Pfizer's earlier comments that its vaccines may not defend against COVID-19 infection as effectively over time.

COVID-19 immunity protection from two doses of the Pfizer vaccine starts dwindling after about two month, still, the shots remain effective in guarding against hospitalization and death, according to a pair of studies published in the New England Journal of Medicine on Wednesday.

The new findings affirm what Pfizer, Moderna, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have indicated in recent weeks - that the vaccines' ability to protect the body from coronavirus infection may wane over time. Last month, the Food and Drug Administration authorized Pfizer booster shots for older or more vulnerable people.

In the first study, researchers from Qatar found that Pfizer's immunity protection drops to as low as 20% just four months after a person receives their second dose. They based their report on observations of infections among Qatar's over 900,000 vaccinated people.

The researchers found that Pfizer's protection against infection was "negligible" shortly after the first dose, but jumps to 36.8% three weeks later. When people receive their second dose, immunity protection increases to 77.5% after about a month.

But once that month is over, Pfizer's immunity effectiveness declines steadily, hovering at around 20% after the four-month mark, per the researchers.

"These findings suggest that a large proportion of the vaccinated population could lose its protection against infection in the coming months, perhaps increasing the potential for new epidemic waves," wrote the report.

Still, Pfizer's protection against hospitalization and death remained "robust" at 90% or higher for six months after the second dose, it said. The report also noted that its findings may not apply well to countries with older populations, since Qatar's population is relatively young with only 9% of its people being 50 or older.

The other study, conducted in Israel, looked at 4,868 healthcare workers. It reported that people have substantially decreased COVID-19 antibodies just six months after receiving their second dose of Pfizer's vaccine.

The drop is especially prominent among men, the elderly above 65, and those with weakened immune systems.

In comparison, vaccines for other conditions such as mumps, measles, and rubella only show small decreases of about 5% to 10% each year in neutralizing antibody levels, wrote the researchers.

They also noted that they observed higher antibody counts in obese participants who have a body mass index of 30 or above.

"Yet, it is still unclear whether vaccinated obese persons are at higher or lower risk for breakthrough infection and whether the relatively high humoral response to the vaccine is protective," the report stated.
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And yet even in the article they still push this ****... Unreal.

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Yep, they're winners!
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Another outcome of this is political re-alignment. The big corporations have more or less been aligned with the Republican Party for the last 100 years. Trump gave them a massive windfall by slashing their corporate tax rate from 35% to 22% (or close to those numbers). And he allowed them to bring in many of their off-shored funds tax free, and cut regulations.

And how have those corporations responded? By screwing their workers. I expect a big part of the GOP platform (driven by grassroots) in 2024 will be to break up these big companies. Traditional conservatives will team with Pochantas and other dems to tax the hell out of them also.

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'Whatever happened to charity toward one's neighbor?
Whatever happened to bowing to God, not men?
Whatever happened to faith in Jesus and His PROMISE of eternal life -- and His admonition to not fear the death of the body but rather, the death of YOUR SOUL?
-- Heartlander 10/10/2021
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I cannot figure out how anyone in their right mind agrees with what Xiden says or gloss over it. There are tons of liers behind Xiden which MSM portrays as being true.

On another subject...I'm trying to decide when to submit my assertion on religious exemption. Should I do it ASAP or wait until jab mandate occurs at my work place?
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@Quantum
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As the number of unvaccinated declines, the sanctions against them can be ratcheted up (even as the public health justification also declines even for a well-functioning vaccine).


Yes, but a lot of them who took the shot regret it because it harmed their health and/or because they were lied to about its effectiveness. So that is not a one-way equation.

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'Whatever happened to charity toward one's neighbor?
Whatever happened to bowing to God, not men?
Whatever happened to faith in Jesus and His PROMISE of eternal life -- and His admonition to not fear the death of the body but rather, the death of YOUR SOUL?
-- Heartlander 10/10/2021
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I don't have an official requirement from my employer yet, but they sent out an email that basically said they'll move on it when the OSHA rules come out. And I have very little motivation to produce for them now as I know their plan and that they will use "OSHA rules" for cover. Maybe the OSHA rules will never come, but they showed their hand (stupidly).

I don't even care if they offer the chance to request exemptions, nor do I care if they allow for weekly testing as an alternative. I won't "ask" for them to "grant" me my inherent freedom back. And I won't be treated like a freak with bull**** testing week after week.

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"Nonfarm payrolls rose by just 194,000 in the month, compared to the Dow Jones estimate of 500,000, the Labor Department reported Friday."

Rut-roh

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'Whatever happened to charity toward one's neighbor?
Whatever happened to bowing to God, not men?
Whatever happened to faith in Jesus and His PROMISE of eternal life -- and His admonition to not fear the death of the body but rather, the death of YOUR SOUL?
-- Heartlander 10/10/2021
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