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Kevin_j
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So now apparently young people dying from heart problems is normal and it's just one of those things that happens. What the **** is wrong with these people?

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/health-58752....
Erj
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Incept: 2021-08-15

Marion, VA
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The following groups in the USA are exempt from the COVID-19 vaccine,
EXEMPT
All of US Congress plus all Congressional staff, House and the Senate.
6,000 White House employees.
2,500 Pfizer, 1,500 Moderna, and 120,000 Johnson and Johnson employees.
15,000 CDC and 14,000 FDA employees.
8 million Chinese students in this country [USA].
2 million illegal aliens exempted.

This in and of itself should be lawsuits on a mass scale.
Whitehat
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Something to highlight cardiac risk being silent. Have a friend who is much older than me (mid sixties), looks great, should have been a male model, turns the heads of women younger than me, works full time in a physical job and loves it, strong, you get it. Have been on him for the past twenty years that with his family risk profile (father, mother, brother, etc. needing bypass and other vascular issues) that he needed to go full keto and low inflammatory. He never appeared overweight, just slightly extra on the waist which he carried well being so fit. Here goes.

Last year an unrelated incident caused him to go to a few doctors to figure out what still hurt, completely unrelated to cardiac. Doctors saw some things off. He has been going to a cardiologist for most of his middle age due to family history. Never took statins although they pushed them. Cardiologist never saw anything. Did stress tests just fine. He was pushed to look further by non-cardiac doctors who could not reconcile some tests and symptomology. They thought that the injury which turned out to be nothing could have caused a small stroke. Drum roll please.

He found out that he was a walking time-bomb with severe blockages, including the widow-maker heart artery. The kind of guy who goes out to shovel snow and just dies even before the ambulance arrives. Note that he shoveled snow all of the time. Immediate multiple artery bypass surgery. He came out just fine.

What does this tell you?

A person can be seriously ****ed and not know it. He had absolutely no cardiac damage and never a single pain or sense that something was wrong. Never had a heart attack. Just one day would have simply died, maybe even just sitting in a chair. And, note well that the three times a year visit to the cardiologist and keeping up with testing detected nothing.

Also, his diet was carb based.

Often there is no warning.

We now have a lot more time-bombs out there.

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Onething@atime
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Txdg00 wrote..

If they don't change their ways, they'll have to figure out a way to live with themselves.

Something tells me they've already solved that problem.
Edwardteach
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Pfizer: Breakthroughs that change patients lives

https://www.pfizer.com/our-visual-identi....

Now they're just mocking us.

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Ratsalad
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Stocktwits has been updated with your latest missive, with the following money quote!

$MRNA

"Allegedly HHS claims we've "avoided" 30,000 deaths by vaccination. What if we have in fact killed just as many -- or even twice as many -- through elevated cardiac disease risk, and will keep doing so every six months to a year into the future for as long as we jam needles full of this crap into arms?"
Frat
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Quote:
We now have a lot more time-bombs out there.


And was completely avoidable.

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We're ****ed. There will be no happy ending here; there is no going back to 'normal.'. There are only bad outcomes and worse outcomes. And we don't get to choose those, either.
Obseedian
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Myocarditis is no joke, the overall all-cause mortality over 7 years is nearly 50%, especially if it presents with something called LGE (late gadolinium enhancement), which has indeed the case with vax-induced myocarditis. Note also that the mortality does not depend on the severity of symptoms. Read that again to make sure it sinks in.

https://www.jacc.org/action/cookieAbsent
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We found a relevant long-term mortality in myocarditis patients (19.2% all cause, 15% cardiac, and 9.9% sudden cardiac death [SCD]). The presence of late gadolinium enhancement (LGE) yields a hazard ratio of 8.4 for all-cause mortality and 12.8 for cardiac mortality, independent of clinical symptoms. This is superior to parameters like left ventricular (LV) ejection fraction, LV end-diastolic volume, or New York Heart Association (NYHA) functional class, yielding hazard ratios between 1.0 and 3.2 for all-cause mortality and between 1.0 and 2.2 for cardiac mortality. No patient without LGE experienced SCD, even if the LV was enlarged and impaired. When focusing on the subgroup undergoing follow-up CMR, we found an initial NYHA functional class >I as the best independent predictor for incomplete recovery (p = 0.03).

 


Now granted, these results were obtained for people with average age of 52 so I don't know how it translates to children. But it is entirely likely that you have taken several decades off their life. And of course, the incidence of myocarditis is probably highly underestimated, due to much of it being asymptomatic. And what if that is the typical case in adults?

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Msnlgrinder
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Thought I'd let you guys know, I ordered some vitamin I over at IndiaMart, had a hell of a time paying the guy (my guess is because he does A LOT of business)... finally had to send a check/money order to some random friend of his that lives in the US.
If this seller didn't have 200 feedbacks, I'd never have done it.
Well, just a moment ago, got 10 boxes of 100 IVM 12mg. That's a whole lot of IVM!!

Why some governor doesn't take up Karl's idea to just fly a bunch over here and give it out to constituents, I don't know.

Whoever on here mentioned IndiaMart, thank you!
Noncompliant
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@Erj, don't forget the postal employees; the number I recall is in the neighborhood of 600,000. Btw, do you have a good source for these stats? I would love to have this ready to shove in the faces of people who challenge me on why I'm not taking the clot shots, but of course they will try to refute the figures.
Msnlgrinder
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If we've "saved" 30k lives with the vax, I call bull****.

First, it's too early to declare victory. Second, we've killed AT LEAST that many with the vax so far, and the people who died from the shot were, on average, healthier than the people "saved".

Will give you an example. On the last day in May, the month that his age group was eligible to get the second shot, a 40 year father of 2 (in good shape, active, etc) just "died unexpectedly". I remember being blown away by it at the time, but in hindsight, I'd be willing to wager money this was another vax fatality, and probably unreported.

So even if we grant the hypothetical push... we've lost. Big.
Kikknback
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The supply of human hearts for transplants just dried up, so these NAZIs will get a 2 for 1 win from the deadly shots.

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Ocdawg
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Let's go Brandon, WI
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@ Whitehat:A person can be seriously ****ed and not know it. He had absolutely no cardiac damage and never a single pain or sense that something was wrong. Never had a heart attack. Just one day would have simply died, maybe even just sitting in a chair. And, note well that the three times a year visit to the cardiologist and keeping up with testing detected nothing.

Sharing this again (jab related?) UPDATED:
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/judas-....
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Lazydaizy316
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KD...has ANYONE actually seen the legal mandate document demanding that companies with more than 100 employees force the jab on workers? I heard that it doesn't exist at this time. It was only mentioned by the puppet in the wh at a press conference and is NOT enforceable as there is noting in writing.

If that is true...let the lawsuits begin!

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And people are stupid!
Tickerguy
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It does NOT as of this point exist to the best of my knowledge.

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Wholy1
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LOL w/ abject disgust. This blatant grifting, election jacking, "mandating"/tyranny will continue to be ratcheted up until a majority of the productive/parenting "throw down" and commence [not-so] "civil" v2.bloody ugly. The media, academia, judiciary, politicos and their appointed bureauRATS are TOTALLY owned by the "viruses"/psychopaths of real consequence.
Lazydaizy316
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Then why aren't nurses, doctors, teachers and anyone else that has been fired, sue for wrongful dismissal?

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I identify as vaccinated.
God is great!
Beer is good!
And people are stupid!
Jesjohn94
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What is the holy grail for the global pharmaceutical industry?

Giving a drug to billions of people that causes long term health issues requiring hundreds more new drugs to be developed to try and limit the damage. Even better is when another company ****ed this up in the first place.

Do our nitwit leaders realize this? I doubt it. You can bet all the CEOs of these companies are already working out what they can buy with this vast future wealth. You couldn't make this **** up.
Bakerv
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Florida
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TXdg00 "If they don't change their ways, they'll have to figure out a way to live with themselves."

If they don't change their ways, they'll have to figure out a way not to become the main course at the longpig roast.

Fixed it for you.
Bakerv
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@Frat "Jeez, Frat Junior just might have his pick of women if/when he waltzes into college"

Yup. I regularly tell the small human to keep working on his baseball skills as there is going to be a significant lack of young men at the collegiate level and the pro level in the not to distant future. I figure a D-1 will take him just because he's a pureblood.

I get the eyeroll thing a lot but I keep planting seeds.
Onething@atime
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Edwardteach wrote..

Now they're just mocking us.


A strange juxtaposition... This brings to my mind the scene in the Kojak episode "Out of the Shadows" where they're questioning their key suspect, Roger Villers.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0621361/

Turns out he's not the killer, but, as Kojak says later, "I think he'd love to be the killer so bad he can taste it. But killing? I don't know, it's just not his brand of insanity. So what does he do? He does it by proxy, JOE DIMAGGIO -- he's the guy sittin' in the stands, cheerin' on his favorite ballplayer."

Karen's mentality figures in here somewhere. Not a straight analogy, but... anyway, just another piece in the Glass Bead Game. If you want to call it that.

Here's how it goes in the interrogation room:

VILLERS:

Sure, restaurants serve cold toast and lousy coffee, and I get pulled in for buying a can of paint. Rape, murder... you sign an oath when you join the force: Preserve law and order. Big joke. You guys oughtta be arrested for misrespresentation. Pretending to care. Pretending to be concerned.

CAPT MCNEIL:

We were talking paint.

VILLERS:

You want to talk paint? We'll talk paint.

CAPT MCNEIL:

Alright, so what are you painting, Villers?

VILLERS:

(smirking)

I'm not a painter.

CROCKER:

(grabbing Villers by the back of the neck)

You were buyin' a can.

 


VILLERS:

I spray it in the air. It makes a kind of red mist. I like to look through it. "Rose-colored world."

CAPT MCNEIL:

This was BLOOD red, not rose.

VILLERS:

So they RAN OUT OF ROSE. I guess other people have the same idea about this crummy world.

CAPT MCNEIL:

So you sprayed it at a woman yesterday.

VILLERS:

Did I?

CAPT MCNEIL:

Yeah, she identified you to a T.

VILLERS:

Well I guess she knows.

CROCKER:

Hey, where were you last night?

VILLERS:

It's personal.

CAPT MCNEIL:

A woman?

VILLERS:

My neighbor.

CAPT MCNEIL:

No, your neighbor says you were NOT with her last night.

VILLERS:

That's par for the course.

CROCKER:

A woman was killed six blocks from your room.

CAPT MCNEIL:

Same man who killed the pawn broker and a mechanic and a phony evangelist.

VILLERS:

Can I have a drink of water?

CAPT MCNEIL:

What's your special interest in this Grim Reaper? You cut out newspaper clippings, you make notes about his victims... what are you doing, you starting a library?

VILLERS:

Dick Tracy lost its charm.

CROCKER:

WHAT ABOUT THE MESSAGES YOU SPRAYED ON THE WALLS?

VILLERS:

WHAT MESSAGES?

KOJAK:

God's retribution is tardy. Satisfaction not guaranteed.

VILLERS:

(smiling)

That fella's a poet. I'm an engineer. On occasion, that is.

CROCKER:

(turning back to look at Kojak)

This guy's laughing at us.

 


VILLERS:

Can I have that water now?

Yeah, I got a thing for transcription. I like to listen, and -- sometimes, I like to write. I like to write what I hear. And there's something about this episode, a sort of lyricism that's almost operatic. But that's enough for now. Back to work! Not that this isn't a form of work, but... you dig.

"Remember... we only want the logos [incidental] killers dig."

 


Auf denn! Ans Werk!

Ja, ja, den Schaden zu vergueten...

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Quantum
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@Erj: Your info is out of date at least insofar as FDA and CDC go: they were allowed to test instead of vaccinate until Biden's EO but are now under the gun like all other federal employees (except maybe the USPS as someone else noted). D-Day is 11/22, but enforcement can begin on 11/9 if they haven't completed their series by then. This is even being applied to unionized feds.
Capcomp
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@Quantum agree. Uncle Sugar running full steam ahead with this crap. My DIL's last day will be 11/19. She's pregnant and was thinking of trying the exemption route but both Kaiser and the government are spouting the same bull****:

"People who are pregnant" These idiots don't even understand biology.
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Joancrawford
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@Quantum- "D-Day is 11/22, but enforcement can begin on 11/9 if they haven't completed their series by then. This is even being applied to unionized feds."

Golly, that date sounds strangely familiar for catastrophic events to happen.
Wayiwalk
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Frat - Anecdotal data point here in the our area is that fall sports has NOT resulted in any adverse events from the student athletes. If I had to guess, since our district is filled with parents that generally go with the flow, is at least 50% are vaccinated.

My son, who is unvaxxed but had Covid, is struggling with a minor abductor pull ruining his senior season.

Can't win them all! smiley

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