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Blanca
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All of the COVID vaccines available for use in the US use abortion-derived cell lines in either the design/development, production, or testing phases according to the following https://lozierinstitute.org/update-covid....

Moderna: testing
Pfizer: testing
J&J: design/dev, production, and testing

This has been reported for at least a year now, though it is not widely known in the evangelical or Catholic circles.

Franklin Graham, son of Billy Graham, told everyone to get the vaccine https://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/new..... I like most of what Graham does, but his reasoning is faulty and he made a mistake in his proclamation. The Bible is quite silent on vaccines; they didn't exist when it was written. Graham stated "I think if there were vaccines available in the time of Christ, Jesus would have made reference to them and used them." For Graham to have stated that Jesus would have used vaccines is irresponsible. Graham went way out on a limb and is now being used as a prop to beat up those who are opposed to using vaccines that have anything to do with abortion-derived cell lines. My grandfather preacher used to tell his congregation that they should run for the sheriff if he preaches on anything outside of his authority within the Biblical realm. Graham clearly did this.

Even the Babylon Bee weighed in on the Bible and its justification for vaccines with this excellent satire https://babylonbee.com/news/7-powerful-v....

Personally, I was unaware that so many of our current non-COVID vaccines use abortion-derived cell lines until I began my research.

It's a complicated issue and a matter of conscience, which is why providing religious exemptions is important. One should not have to justify WHY one is requesting an exemption and they should be granted.

Many evangelicals and Catholics have taken the vaccines. I suspect most will greet this news with a shrug. They can't undo what they've done and fear has motivated many of them to take the vaccine regardless of how it was manufactured. I hope I am wrong.
Dji
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At dickanddick management hides every thing on the manufacturing floor when there is an audit.

Looks like SOP.... Go figure....

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Purplefang
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The "news"

Vaccine Vaccine Get the Vaccine Booster Booster Get the Vaccine Vaccine

How can anybody listen to this endless crap and not notice something is wrong?

Fetal cells is just a small part of what Pfizer is not telling the truth about.

Superdude
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What is stopping the TPTB? We all know the story won't make the mainstream media. If your worried about preachers, well whats stopping them from banning church services? They already did that. They will do it again. I don't think this is the event yet.




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Olddad
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@heartlander - thanks!
Ponzi_unit
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Onward Christian Soldiers.

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Purplefang
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Stew Peters has been doing some of the best videos of nurses and doctors exposing the vaxx effects. The pics of blood cells sticking together in strings... Yikes

https://rumble.com/vnbgal-never-before-s....
Pharmadude
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Remember folks - it's not necessarily the crime, but the cover-up that brings about the wrath of the people.

This gal brings the receipts on the cover-up at high levels.

OKeefe is playing this out well, as he has been known to do. Start with showing how the corporate hospitals are silencing the medical staff, how the scientists are good little Nazi's following orders, then boom the outright cover-up of the corporate heads with half-truths and lies about the vexx.

Unfortunately, the exposes always end up flat. The sheeple don't really want to be bothered with having to do anything. They're not even running away.
Asimov
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While this should gain traction and cause an absolute uproar... Too many people are invested in the narrative now. It'll get dismissed and we'll just have a few more people banned or shadow banned on social medias.

It'll be dismissed in the dual medias: "We knew this all along" "It was only to ensure it was safe"... etc.

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Captainkidd
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Evidently, this is real.
It's on numerous news sites....
Want an exemption???
This is what they hand you...
Inline

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Aquapura
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Who misses the days when the only reason Pfizer was in our lexicon was because of boner pills???

Suppose they used fetal cells to derive that too???
Tickerguy
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@Captainkidd - This is why you don't REQUEST an exemption and you also don't fill out their little form.

What you DO, however, is keep that nice piece of paper on their letterhead because in a couple of years you're going to be able to jam it up their ass sideways using a stick of dynamite as a tamper, then light the cap you shoved in said stick. That paper is hard proof of bad faith and will get them ****ed to beyond the orbit of Mars.

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Jwm_in_sb
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No but on Tuesday Bannon asked O'Keefe about these videos being in class action lawsuits and thst was B4 this latest one. I'm willing to bet this is going to be litigated.
Bagbalm
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If nobody has noticed, the vast majority of people in the US claim to be Christian. It clearly is a nominal association like their association with an ethnic group such as Italian-American or Finnish-American. If it requires you to do anything beyond treasuring grandma's recipe for lasagna or ruisleip it can be discarded without a twinge of conscience. If that tenuous thread of belonging interferes with making a living and enjoying life it has to go. Many people find their loyalty to a local sports team more motivating than their ancestral religion.
Mjc1960
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The correct answer to are you vaccinated is,
None of your business.
Then silence.
Do not play their game.
Jwm_in_sb
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This is giving the lawyers what they need for lawsuits in my opinion.
Mjc1960
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@Captainkidd

The list of meds don't have fetal cells as a component.
Aspirin was around before fetal cells were used for anything other than making babies.
My wife has used fetal cells to produce our children, I guess I should get rid of her now.

Tickerguy
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Yep @Mjc1960 - as I said that letter is PROOF of malicious misconduct and bad faith on the part of the employer. It is a flat-out lie intended to coerce and, being on corporate letterhead, is admissible evidence.

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Egallred
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@Tickerguy such statements may have a number of "unexpected" side effects. Such as we obviously need laws requiring products made with human fetal cells clearly indicated on their package. Sort of like the tobacco Surgeon General warnings. We wouldn't want people to unknowingly violate their conscience now, would we?
Jwm_in_sb
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I'm beginning to think that employers, including the federal government, have backed themselves into a legal corner on the mandates and exemptions.
Mosaik
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"Where does is say they were using the fetal cell lines in the vaccine?"

My understanding is that microbiologists use stem cell from fetal tissue (I guess that would be miscarried or aborted fetuses) in the development of the vaccines/jabs. Like, maybe, to culture cells in the lab to then test the jabs on the cells?
Captainkidd
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In the letter, they actually require the employee to commit to NOT using anything on that list, or "any others that use fetal cells".....

Which, I'm assuming, means at some point in the future, you could be fired for taking an aspirin....
Which, in my opinion, is the goal if you don't comply.

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It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. -- Henry Ford
Heartlander
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@Blanca

Thank you. Insightful, as usual.

My go-to source on vaccines for many years has been
https://cogforlife.org/

I used their charts of abortion-tainted vs. ethical vaccines when my kids were growing up in order to find the acceptable vaccines. Sometimes I had to have the doctor special-order a particular vaccine since the ethical one was not the one they normally used at the clinic.

cogforlife.org was how I knew that the first shingles vaccine that came out was unethically produced, and I had to wait a few years for an ethical version, Shingrix, to come out. Until then, I took my chances with shingles.

Of course, last year when they started talking about Covid vaccines being in development, I checked cogforlife.org to find out about them. Bad news, of course.

I'm pretty sure
https://www.lifesitenews.com/
also reported on the abortion-tainted Covid vaccines early on. LifeSiteNews has been INDISPENSABLE through this whole pandemic madness.
Maddmaxx
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I'm just now watching the one veritas video where they are talking with the "scientists" from Pfizer and what I find also alarming is how off they are on the science even as they are being candid. The one guy is saying several months later you might be 70% protected and not 95. The 95% was BS to begin with.
Maddmaxx
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IF this turns - and I pray it does, and soon - there will be tremendous recrimination and retribution dealt out, especially if, as we expect, the body count goes up significantly. Yes, suing your employer now will get you nowhere but if it turns, a whole different story.

I would cite the public perception of Colin Kapernick. When he first began protesting he was seen by so many as an ungrateful pariah protesting against the flag and "the troops." You were in a distinct minority if you agreed with him, or even saw his side. A few years later, if you weren't on his side, you were stupid and a racist.
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