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Blanca
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@capcomp

I programmed in FORTRAN and COBOL in my earlier years. Recently had someone looking for help with FORTRAN. Nope.

Are there any want ads that specify FORTRAN programmers with a recent vex and willing to wear a mask all day? Good luck!
Jazen
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Not saying evryone will die earlier than expected, but I have a feeling many will that got the vaccine.
And that will not be good for the world, deserved or not, that many people off the earth leaves....Gaps

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Little_eddie
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Yes, and I can see you taking the jab and working for the .gov

Does it need a tag?

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Dnomsed
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@Tickerguy
@Capcomp

Fortran is still very much alive in the world of parallel computing.

How's your assembly code? :) :)
Tickerguy
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@Dnomsed - That's ALL I wrote for several YEARS... "Can you program the pins off the Z-80?" Why yes, I can.

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Eternalblue
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It's not just about dying, people forcibly retired seldom ever come back to the workforce.
Bluto
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Looks like Uncle Joe's handlers are about to release oil from the Strategic Reserve in an effort to lower prices. This is the WORST time to be doing so. Not only is seasonal demand on the downswing due to the end of the summer driving season, but China is making noises over Taiwan.

At best, this is a political stunt to drive up Biden's poll numbers so he can better leverage the $3.5T of graft he wants to pass.

As worst, it is the CCP ordering Biden to weaken us before China moves on Taiwan.

And good luck "refilling" the Reserve at a lower price in the future. Clown show

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Bluto
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@Jesjohn94
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I seriously doubt a 5% loss of government jobs will make the slightest difference.


It will be devastating on the contractor side. I expect the number to be 10% or more from early retirements and firings if they are stupid/evil enough to go forward. It isn't just losing 10% of the workforce. Among that number will be a high percentage of high performers.

Do you think the remaining 90% will work 10% harder (without 10% more pay) to make up for the loss?

Quite the contrary, the remaining 90% will work less hard, since they can blame anything that goes wrong on those that got fired. Think they won't ride that train for another year or more?

And then you have about 30% or so who HATE their employer for raping them with a needle. Think that is going to "help" corporate bottom line?

And where are employers going to find 10% to rehire? Good luck with that. And when they do find the occasional new hire, how well is it going to go over with the existing staff that the new hire is getting paid more???

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Tonythetiger
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Billhrny wrote..
Here is the issue, it's not just the job or the contract...the CLEARANCE.

This ... in part. Also in play is the background and experience necessary to make a meaningful contribution.

It's not a 100% show stopper by any means. Government contracts will continue on after key losses of personnel. The money is on contract and will be spent. Count on that.

The result of the contract may be a steaming pile of poo, but that's only a secondary consideration to spending the money on schedule.

If a top notch government organization (I know, an oxymoron) loses several key people, the program will stumble and bumble its way to the finish line and produce results that are meaningless. The Program Manager will show that the money was spent just like they planned and everyone will congratulate each other on doing a fine job of closing the program out under such trying circumstances. Performer of the month awards will be handed out, etc. Life goes on.

The performance aspect is where things will fall apart. Take my group as an example. Not to brag, but our work is some of the most technically difficult you can find. Our government folks are all PMs or support types. ALL the technical folks are contractors, like me. We keep the effort between the technical ditches so that the results mean something.

One of my co-workers jokes that "Rocket Science is the easy part of our job", and it's true. There are maybe a dozen technical people and 50 - 60 government folks. Maybe 10% of the government people are capable enough technically to understand half of what we do. New government folks are rigorously screened. Only the best get in. Hiring a new technical guy can take almost a year simply because there aren't that many of them with the right expertise who are looking to change jobs.

I know of 4 technical people in our office that are not yet jabbed, myself included. If we all are tossed out, then technical performance will suffer greatly.

People with my expertise are very rare. There might be 200 in the entire country as capable because it takes 25+ years of hands-on detailed work to get there, provided you have the opportunity to begin when young enough.

Losing 1/3 of the technical workforce will have a significant impact on the pertinence of the work product. It will literally go from hero to zero over night. The first technical decision that veers off the true path will **** a program irreparably.

Too bad, so sad. I estimate it will take at least a year to find replacements with anything remotely like the skill set necessary who can get the clearances required.

I've been there almost 13 years now. I was a pretty sharp engineer when I arrived, recommended by a former co-worker who was already on the inside. Once hired, he took me aside and told me to keep my mouth shut for at least 3 months, even if I thought I had something worthwhile to say. He was concerned that I would say something out of ignorance and be perceived as stupid by the customers and ruin any chance I had to build a reputation. Government guys come and go, contractors stay on and serve as the memory of the organization. Get labelled as a dope right off the bat, and it's tough to get any respect for what you know.

It was good advice. Took me a year just to get my bearings and figure out what was what. Now I spend half my time explaining that things people suggest we look into have already been examined in the past and found wanting. Even so, we often spend a good chunk of money to relearn something because the PM doesn't believe the advice of his technical guy, if he even bothers to ask.

Yeah, the clearances are a big hurdle. But they can give those out to anyone who managed to stay out of jail during their life (eventually). They can't make an expert out of just anyone though. Some of the government folk in prior times tried. After a few months of private tutoring on the subtleties of our work, they abandoned the effort. They were smart enough to realize they could never learn it all.

Honestly, I'll feel a bit sorry for the folks who are left behind when I'm gone. They are good people trying to perform a very challenging job. But, when push came to shove, they all stood back and watched me be tossed out the door without a peep of protest.

So ... my sympathies won't last very long. Adios muchachos! Best of luck replacing me.

As an aside, I might attempt submitting a religious exemption (I've got a doozy in mind) just to see what happens. I don't expect it to succeed really, but it might be amusing to try.





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Capcomp
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@Bluto - Only way is up with these idiots.
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Tickerguy
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Frankly, if the government blows itself up..... I will cheer.

Tony is right. Been there, done that, all manner of fun is about to occur.

Get the popcorn.


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Chromehill
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@Tickerguy - You can't write COBOL/FORTRAN for the government because they will make you get the Jab, even working remotely as a contractor!

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Capcomp
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While we are discussing clearances, https://www.militarytimes.com/news/penta....

and we haven't even touched on polygraphs...
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@Chromehill -- Well, you see when they ask that's the reason my answer is "Suck my dick!"

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Bluto
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@Capcomp Yep. And good luck finding truck drivers to haul all that fuel.

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Robackrman
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Fortran is still very much alive in the world of parallel computing.

And in radio astronomy.
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Yeah well code that works well..... works well.

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Dnomsed
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https://theexpose.uk/2021/10/06/the-vacc....

Excellent summary report on vaccine injuries and death. Zev Zelenko et al.
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@Capcomp
Taken through my car window yesterday towards a gas station on the border of Atherton and Menlo Park California.
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Dnomsed
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@Tickerguy
If memory serves, the Sinclair ZX80 used a Z-80 cpu. Yeah, wrote assembly code on that fun toy. Built an extra memory pack for it, and it jolly well worked. Lots of fun.

Not direct to pin, mind you. Kudos... :)
Freewill
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@Robackrman

I am surprised that California still has gas for sale at this point.
Tickerguy
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smiley

I wrote a LOT of commercial Z-80 assembler.... The amusing part of it is that there is basically no processor I've ever seen where it takes me more than a couple of days to be reasonably competent with the instruction set, and a week or two to be able to write production level code on it.

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Jollyrogers
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@capcomp, continuous evaluation(ce) is a joke. That stuff was supposed to happen anyway. The real reason DoD started CE was because it was hopelessly backlogged on periodic reinvestigations and the timeline for new investigations to adjudicate just kept growing.

CE was the bs bandaid to allow DOD to throw more resources and initial investigations.

Shortly before CE started, I sometimes spent years waiting to get people accessed to information, especially if they had been stationed overseas or had other foreign affections
Printlife
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Ok then Karl, show us some iAPX 432 code. Only because I tried to figure the darn thing out when it was introduced. That was an odd one.

More of a hardware guy and I always just tried to understand the behavior from reset, iAPX 432 defeated me. I could never trace the first operations.

Tonythetiger
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@Capcomp

Yeah, they have been transferring everyone over to continuous monitoring for the past year or two. It was taking too long to go through the re-investigation process while investigating new folks too.

So the 'continuous' part is basically telling clearance holders they are on an honor system to report stuff that happens. I'm sure they do spot check on occasion to make sure you didn't 'forget' to report something.

Failing to report a required event is pretty much the end of things clearance wise, so there's good incentive for people to report stuff. Most things short of severe criminal conduct are survivable. They just want to make sure you can't be blackmailed for something they don't know about.

I actually prefer the continuous system as it removes the burden of updating your clearance paperwork on a periodic basis (every 5 years for me). The paperwork is a royal pain. It can takes a week to get all the details right if you aren't busy doing anything important (like work). And believe me, you want to get the details right. Had a co-worker get the third degree because the box for "not a citizen" was checked next to his naturalized citizen wife listing.

Any extra scrutiny is generally not a fun experience. Some of the investigators are prime a$$hats too. Things can get nasty pretty quick with some of them. They tend to presume that any paperwork mistake is a sign that you're trying to hide something.






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