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Jcpennyinla
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@Burya_rubenstein
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Can't we have even ONE of {liberty, safety}?

Wow. Haven't seen that notation since I was BSing for my Math BS last century.

I get it. Absolutely accurate... but it needs translation.

I was Major Geek until I got promoted and became a translator.

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Jesjohn94
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If the jabs are eventually admitted to be deadly it will be interesting to see what the response is. I suspect 90% will buy the "no one could have known" story that will also be used whenever the economy blows up.


On September 9, President Biden signed Executive Order 14042, Ensuring Adequate COVID Safety Protocols for Federal Contractors.

The guidance issued today advances one of the main goals of this science-based plan: getting more people vaccinated.


This bit is good. What is the science behind 100% remote contractors needing to be jabbed? I wonder if OSHA will try and do the same? I don't doubt they are working hard trying to figure out how to force that. They are probably regretting the offer of a weekly covid test instead of jab. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to change that to a daily test. These ****ers are unreal. I keep expecting to see workplace shootings but amazingly isn't happening.


"Contractor employees working on a covered contract from their residence also must comply with the vaccination requirement for covered contractor employees."
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White House Plans To Quadruple COVID Rapid Testing Despite Decline In Cases

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/white....

"Despite" decline in cases or "because of" decline in cases?
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I pay real money to see that son of a b**** get f***** by a horse on TV

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Lmao!!! @Tickerguy. Holy **** thats a hilarious picture in my head!!!!!! lol. I spit my beer out!! ****!!!

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Why are you giving a vulgarity warning here? Our genial host is an advocate of both skull****ing and sodomy via rusty chainsaw. Credit to Rollformer
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I pay real money to see that son of a b**** get f***** by a horse on TV.


I'd pay good money to see him stroke out during a press conference on TV. I'd like to see him literally drop to the floor right in front of the cameras.

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Getting ready for the OSHA test requirement
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@ Heartlander

A buddy of mine tried to get a neurology appointment for his mother. They called the doc in the insurance pool and they cold not get seen PERIOD. They were that booked up. No timeline when it would be open.

This is what will happen across the board.

And with supply and demand determining cost.......you know where this goes.

That "insurance" will be anything but. There are many in medicine who do not take insurance at all.

An hour on the phone dealing with a disputed claim is still an hour of work. Cash and carry is often the norm, especially in mental health offices and the like.

This will only get worse. Good luck getting your appointments!

As for your example, most derm does not need a hospital. I suspect they will simply go cash only or only accept certain insurances.
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The defense contractor issue is a touchy one....some here have said things like "they are prepared to lose 3-5% of their staff" etc....that may be...I've heard whisperings of the same. But - and this is where it gets touchy...it depends on what staff and if that will effect morale to up the percentage of people bailing.

Here is the issue, it's not just the job or the contract...the CLEARANCE. If a company loses a person and that person works classified programs...it can be a royal bitch to replace that person quickly. Those that require Secret clearances are somewhat easy, Top Secret is harder, those positions that require TS/SCI (Sensitive Compartmented Information) is a royal bitch....it can take a year or more, sometimes two, to staff the billet due to the length of a detailed security investigation (if starting from scratch).

Higher? like Special Access Programs (SAPs) - forget it...they lose the person on the SAP they lost the contracts. Those can take six months to a year AFTER the SCI is granted.

I would guess those idiots in DC or the Executive wing who get expedited clearances have no idea of the DoD clearance process....regular folks have to wait...and wait....and wait. The thing is the Feds know this. I still have a sneaking suspicion that those people who have SCI or SAP billets will somehow be preserved...I don't know how companies, or the government sponsors they work for would cover it.

I would guess if just 5% of your highly competent highly cleared staff were fired the contract would essentially come to a halt.


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Almost wrecked my phone with twin jets of fine Scottish Ale!

Dont sugar coat it Gen! Hehehe!!!!


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The contractors do care if they lose employees, cuz they can lose the contract. . . the contracts usually require hiring for specific jobs and if they cant fill the position, the contract is in jeopardy.
Yes, a company can have a contract terminated if, during the course of the contract, they cannot maintain staff positions in accordance with contract terms, but that's not what is at issue here. The issue is not that one particular company may not be able to provide desired staffing levels, it is that none of the companies that compete against each other can provide the levels that gov't wants.

In the case of cost-plus-whatever types of contracts or extensions, the required staffing parameters are made part of the contract that is negotiated. If a company has fired senior people unwilling to take the jab and therefore cannot support staffing requirements the gov't wants to see, the gov't will likely face the same situation from all other potential contractors (assuming that firings/staff losses are essentially the same across the entire gov't contractor space). The gov't is obliged to either take the staffing offered by the companies and settle for staffing availability adjustments in the contract terms to accommodate whatever people are available to work or to forego awarding the contract completely.

Thus, while the gov't may well have wanted a senior-level person at a 300K burdened rate, they may just have to settle for 3 more junior level people at 200K burdened each, instead. And, it will be the gov't and not the company that will have to eat the doubling in the contract cost.

Again, given the assumption that all gov't contractors are affected in the same way (i.e., losing the same proportion of key/senior/competent people) by the mandates, no company is at a disadvantage compared to the others in terms of getting contracts. Due to this, so long as everyone else does the same, companies have no reason to care if they have to fire lots of "uncooperative" people who refuse the shot.

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You lose people with clearances especially once you get beyond TS and you're screwed.

It takes very few of those people to effectively shut a program down. And it will be a year two or maybe more before you can restart it.

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I seriously doubt a 5% loss of government jobs will make the slightest difference. These are jobs that have had virtually no losses in 30 years or any attempt at improving efficiency. I bet you could cut 25% without any impact if it was done intelligently. What do federal contractors do that we would notice if it stopped?

It seems like manufacturing and distribution are the big areas where more people might just walk away from their job. Stereotypically redneck conservatives who don't have massive debts, big houses and Tesla's. They maybe have jobs vs. careers so less concern about work. We might find out how much people like that matter.
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Also don't forget the flip side in this whole contract process. You will have Feds (Contracting Officers, Contracting Officer Technical Reps, etc.) who also have clearances to manage these DoD and Intel contracts. X percentage of them will also retire or walk.

Without the ability to communicate in one or both directions the work will not get done.

From this link (published Feb 25, 2020), https://www.fedweek.com/fedweek/budget-u....

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Trump administration budget documents underscore a frequently raised concern about the relatively low numbers of federal employees compared with retirement-eligible employees, a gap that the documents show has widened significantly in recent years.

The average age in the federal workforce is older than the nations broader working population [about 46 vs about 41]. About 28.8 percent (604,000) of federal employees are older than 55. At the other end of the spectrum, only 7.3 percent (154,000) are younger than 30, compared to 23 percent of private sector workers, it says.

Those figures differ somewhat from other reports on the same topic but generally paint the same picture of an older workforceabout 15 percent of whom already are eligible to retireand a shortage of younger employees.

It says that among the 24 CFO Act agenciesCabinet departments and the largest independent agenciesthe cohort in the workforce age 60 and up has grown from 9.4 to 13.8 percent since 2007 while the under-30 cohort has fallen from 7.6 to 6.2 percent.

Among IT workers, it adds, the change has been more significant, with the age 60 and over portion nearly doubling in that time to 14.2 percent while the under-30 portion fell from 4.1 to 2.7 percent.


Look at those ages. When I was in Government we used to joke (but it was true) about any number of older employees who literally had a completed set of retirement papers in their desk drawer!

Anyone in the old CSRS (Civil Service Retirement System) pre 1987 hires can retire with full benefits at age 55 with 30 years.

The people behind President Teleprompter have no idea the chain reaction they have started.

This ain't Pandora's Box this is Dante's Gates of Hell.
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Yep.

As mentioned before: Clearances.

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Mightymosin
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With hearing reports of companies adding fees to health insurance for spouses that haven't taken the jab, I won't be surprised to see health insurance companies refusing to renew contracts for individuals that have not taken the jab.

Every day is a new set of items that are cranking up the pressure of coercion to get that damn jab. You almost start to get numb to the BS.
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@Oliver1655 Nebulizing H2O2 information. I'm not a doctor, so take this for what it's worth.

The first link below tells a story about using 3% strength directly, but generally diluting it down to <1% is considered less risky.

http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/....

Also, here is an interesting book on combining Vit C with nebulized H2O2 to help the body fight of foreign infections:

https://rvr.medfoxpub.com/
You can download the book for free at that link.

I got my nebulizer on Amazon. Handheld are ~$40. Desktop are ~$65 and up.

I haven't looked recently to see if they are still available there, so you might have to look around.

I began nebulizing H202 about two months ago. I use ~1% strength and inhale 10 breaths every morning while I'm getting ready for work. Nebulizing that strength once a day, you could go nearly the whole year on a 32 oz bottle of 3% H2O2. A little goes a long way.





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I sure wont cry too hard if pudding brains detonates the economy
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Among IT workers, it adds, the change has been more significant, with the age 60 and over portion nearly doubling in that time to 14.2 percent while the under-30 portion fell from 4.1 to 2.7 percent.


Lots of legacy IT Systems in Government using outdated programming languages. Without those 60 year old programmers these system break. No one is teaching Fortran anymore.
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Ah, grasshopper.. I can write both Fortran and COBOL!

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lol....make sure that horse has had his dose of pony paste....wouldn't want him to pick up some sort of STD from the Idiot in Chief.

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Tickerguy wrote..
Ah, grasshopper.. I can write both Fortran and COBOL!

Chaching! smiley smileysmileysmileysmiley
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It does not look good for those who will not take the vex in terms of keeping their jobs. The inertia is with the vex mandates. Many will buckle under and who can blame them? The only thing that can stop this is a significant die-off that can be attributed to the vex or some major distraction that will avert the attention of this evil and corrupt government and corporate officials to a real rather than a manufactured crisis.

So what do we hope for? A return to sanity does not seem likely. An economic collapse might cause people to focus on what is really important but that too will kill a lot of people.

It is always darkest before the dawn. Maybe some unanticipated miraculous intervention will save us all from the impending doom.

Regardless, a significant part of the US population deserves the chaos and the oppression. They voted for it and they have not opposed it.

This much is certain for me. I will not give my labor to those who mandate medical treatments as a condition of employment. When one does this he sells his soul to the devil.
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From what I'm seeing in my small corner of of the infospace, TPTB is, unsurprisingly, ramping up the game of whack-a-mole on any "adverse reaction" stories or stats. Vox Day has a transcript of an interview with an Italian emergency doctor in which it is stated that hospitals there have stopped reporting any adverse effects under the rationale that they simply "aren't related" to the death jabs.


"Black and Hispanics, yes. They are capable of learning."

The entire recent history of the Democratic Party is against that hypothesis.
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@TG - FORTRAN! The language of champions.

They have tried to force me to use other languages over the years, instead what I've learned is how to write FORTRAN program in any language :)

It is still the fastest and most efficient languages for scientific computing.
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