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4n6
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@Tickerguy

Most larger companies keep you in the company healthcare plan until the end of the month since they have already deducted your employee portion of the cost. After an acquisition, all of the remaining Corporate staff were to be terminated at month end. I advised HR that I needed a cataract operation and they kept me on the payroll one extra day for an extra month of coverage. I was already advised by my ophthalmologist that he could get everything done within 30 days. It worked perfectly along with an extra day of salary.
Augeries
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Incept: 2019-09-26

North of Boston, but not North enough.
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@Pitseleh "how will we maintain a supply of blood?"

If I am asked in the future for a donation of my unvaxxed pureblood, I'll answer that the bidding starts at $5k a pint. You wanna live? Well I wanna go out and party! Better get the checkbook out!

Maybe next time don't call me a plague rat and I'll feel more sympathy.

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Boredfree
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Incept: 2021-09-15

western slope colorado
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Maybe the idea is to overwhelm the insurance industry with claims.

These companies will immediately look for a gov handout, or its another way to remove baby bummers wealth by collapsing retirement investments in health care.

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Tickerguy
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@Billhrny - COBRA is federal law; if a place is self-insured they still have your ratable cost and 101% of it is all, legally, they can charge you.

In all the years I ran MCSNet I never had a single person who left the firm elect to pay it.

Never once.

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My2pups
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Incept: 2021-08-26

EU
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Anybody based in Europe and has a good source for Ivermectin? I am in Spain, but anywhere in EU should be able to send.

Alternatively, I will be in California in November and could order from the USA.

I found one recommendation from India, but the cart would not load for me.
Thnx!
Themortgagedude
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Saint Charles MO
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New study out that shows natural immunity is not as good as a vaccination. Not sure how it could be much worse but I've got a feeling they are tracking those who had a positive Covid test - and not those who actually got sick and produced antibodies.

My guess is once again they are cherry picking their results to fit their agenda.

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Dnomsed
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https://datastudio.google.com/reporting/....

A window into what is possibly one of the most covid-active cities on the planet. Their capital city is Vientiane, of which 36% is now a red zone. We know folks over there.

Nearly 100% first dose, 78+% 2nd dose. The vaccine drive is ongoing. They aim to vaccinate children next from 12-17 years. Pregnant women are in progress.

Simply, the balance of vaxxed now far outweighs the unvaxxed cv19 sinks. The case count for Vientiane is also plotted over time. Vientiane has been under 11 lockdowns since April - continuous. It is sealed off from the other provinces, so acts like a small country of around 800k-1m people. One has to wonder how this will end?

Geert vd Bosche was correct.

Maddmaxx
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Just reading this one. Great Ticker. Could I suggest adding "or to their loved ones" to this sentence: "Dead is dead; why (and whether people lie about the cause) is immaterial to the person who is dead."
Trappedinca
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Incept: 2021-09-14

California
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Local Karen who posts on a local blog has "mysteriously" come down with shingles and Bell's Palsy. Since I live in a SF Bay Area county which is 87% death jabbed it's nearly certain she took the jabs. But she and all the other local Karens posting on the blog simply have No. Idea. how her condition happened. Some of these folks are going to be on their death beds and still firmly in denial.


Baltgayveteran
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Incept: 2021-09-16

Baltimore, MD
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My2pups, alldaychemists is in Germany. Got 3 orders from them, they made it through U.S. Customs with no problems.

Retiring from USDA 2-3 years early due to jab mandate.

Want to know why this is happening? Watch "V for Vendetta". Money and power.
Comrader
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Karl, I left the company that I worked at 20 yrs in 1980 and the cost of the cobra was $1000 per month. I was in my 30's and healthy and said Hell No!
Susanlauren
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Since data collection is being undermined or is not being collected at all, we are going to know in an ancedotal or over-all increase in death and disability type of way. I think there will be a significant increase in the number of adverse health outcomes and no one will be able to figure out why. Yeah, right. Welcome to the age of the great coincidence.

Cancer rates increase
Heart attacks increase
Auto immune diseases increase
Neurological illnesses increase
Clotting/ hematological issues increase
ADE, OAS and VEI

Denial as to consequences and outcomes will continue until it cannot continue any longer. Unfortunately, I think it is already too late for those who have been jabbed. They are being slowly poisoned and do not know it yet. Is there a way to undo the jabb and reverse the damage? At this point, I don't think anyone knows.

My jabbed friends think I am not long for this world. They think I will get COVID and end up in the hospital ICU on a ventilator. I will linger and suffer and then die. They would mock me for the FLCCC protocols and Team Pony Paste.

I think they are ticking time bombs. One of us is right and one of us is not. I can remove the "tin foil hat" they think I am wearing any time I wish. I wonder how they plan to get the spiked protein removed from the lining of their epithelial cells and reverse the damage to their vascular and immune systems.

Deep sigh. The sides have long been chosen. This will not end well.
Comrader
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correction, that was 1990.
Tickerguy
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@Comrader - Yep.

I can't tell you how many times my phone rang after someone got that in the mail (which we were required, BY LAW, to provide) and screamed at me that I was ****ing them blind. Irrespective of WHY they left the company we were required to send that notice if they were on the firm's health insurance and in every case we did.

It was rather tiresome to explain to them on the phone what was in the package we sent them -- that by federal law the bill they were getting, and which was entirely optional but if they didn't pay on time they lost the ability to get it back permanently, was no more than 101% of what we actually paid in full, including their "contribution", to the insurance company. We did not charge the extra 1% because it wasn't worth it for the risk of a mistake; the mere time to handle it exceeded the 1%. (The fines and even criminal penalties that can be imposed on an employer that screws you in this regard are wildly out-of-reason compared to what they could gain -- so nobody does. COBRA is one of those places where there is basically zero cheating since its simply not worth it to try.)

Not one ex-employee ever paid a single one of those COBRA bills.

Never once.

But the number of times I was called all sorts of nasty names, well...... that was basically every time. There were damn few people who didn't accuse me of attempting to **** them up the ass.

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Mjc1960
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Incept: 2015-02-28

chicago, il
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I have paid COBRA in the past, usually a month or two at the most.
When I went self employed, I discovered catastrophic insurance.
Only paid if you were hospitalized, way cheaper. Over 80% cheaper.
Used it once for one of my kids, with $2500 out of pocket charge.
They covered the rest.
Obama care killed catastrophic health insurance.
Fdprefect
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Incept: 2021-03-24

Atlanta
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Erroldo wrote..
These stories are getting more frequent.
Names known by the public who are vaccinated getting covid and hospitalized or dead from it.
One of those "it could have been worse" stories.
Nicola Coughlan, who plays Penelope Featherington, in an emotional tribute to her late friend wrote..
"It's a tragedy that he's been taken so young when he had so much yet to do. Please also use this as a reminder that Covid is still a very real and present danger, please get vaccinated and mask up to protect yourself and others," she tweeted.
Of course it's sad that people are dying after being conned into getting jabbed but for other sheep to come along after a friend has gotten the deathjab and recommend that others follow suit, is mentally ill.smiley

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Edwardteach
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Incept: 2021-05-01

Here be dragons
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@My2pups You can find it on AliExpress. Prices are low like India's.

Of course caveat emptor applies, though iver is cheap to produce so there isn't much incentive to counterfeit.

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Kontrolkaos
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Incept: 2021-09-13

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As TG et al says: dead is dead. Here's another one.

https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2021/10/....

This one is interesting because this time a thorough port-mortem exam was conducted by a forensic pathologist, resulting in this finding: was this:

Quote:
After extensive research, additional testing, and collaboration with numerous other entities, the cause of death was determined to be: STRESS CARDIOMYOPATHY WITH PERIVASCULAR CORONARY ARTERY INFLAMMATION (hours to days), due to, UNKNOWN ETIOLOGY IN SETTING OF RECENT PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINATION (days). There were no other significant conditions contributing to the death listed.


Boom!
Comrader
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I actually called the Hr guy and said that if I new that they paid that much to insure me I would have taken half and be on my own. I went the next ten years without any. I never needed insurance until I was in my 60's.
Tickerguy
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@Comrader - Oh, it was real. Nobody cheats on that; the penalties for doing so and getting caught are enormous, and there's simply no incentive to do it. The only incentive is to NOT comply at all because it is a pain in the ASS to administer if someone takes it.

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Wayiwalk
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I'm not suggesting the company's "logic" is logical as I believe the opposite. But the folks that will remain with the company will be angry about the higher premiums, and scapegoating the unvaxxed will be a very easy step for them to make.

Think about how far they've gone at this point - denying care to unvaxxed - heck, for decades hospitals have had the open door policy for folks in the emergency room even without medical coverage - no problem, come on in and get taken care of. Now....no vax? First let us vax you, then we can talk. That is crazy.

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The Lockdowns Will Continue Until the Morale Improves!

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Asimov
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Incept: 2007-08-26

East Tennessee
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@Billhrny Self insured means the company covers the medical bills. Fully insured means the insurance company covers the bills. It shouldn't make any difference on cobra benefits.

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Festina lente.
Diogenes_17
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Incept: 2021-02-15

Georgia
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In the bygone world of 2019 and before it was exceptionally rare to see non-obese patients under the age of 60 in our Cath Labs and Cardiac Imaging clinics.

Two years hence it is not unusual to see a half dozen or more procedures on individuals in their 50's and 40's per week. Hell, we aren't flabbergasted anymore when a thirtysomething with sub-30 BMI rolls in for a stent.

It's true that as a whole the general public has let their diets and exercise programs go to **** throughout this event but the precipitating factor always seems to be "the jab".

The patient census tells many truths the providers aren't always willing to divulge.
Ljf
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Incept: 2011-02-02

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Cobra is odd because you get 60 days to decide if you want to take it, and if you do it applies retroactively. So, if you get another job with health insurance within 60 days, and dont have a big medical expense there is no reason to pay for coverage.


See question 14
https://www.cms.gov/CCIIO/Programs-and-I....
4lakes
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Incept: 2021-09-06

Canada
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It has become important to emphasize all-cause mortality and morbidity of the unvaccinated and the vaccinated (and not starting two weeks after the second shot but immediately after the first shot). I have little doubt that the "health authorities" will not be happy with the results. This kind of data is still quite rare, I only know of the Fenton/Neil analysis in the UK.
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