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2021-10-04 08:20 by Karl Denninger
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They All Lied. Throw Them All Out NOW
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"If you were vaccinated you won't get Covid" - Biden, on multiple occasions.

"If you get vaccinated you won't wind up in the hospital" - CDC Director Rochelle, Fauci, many others.

"You must be vaccinated because its the only way to end this pandemic" - Many.

All lies.

Not mistakes, lies.

The Government has been analyzing CMS data.  Not a shock; they have every person over 65's medical records, in real time, as everyone over 65, statistically speaking, is on Medicare and the government pays for it.  They therefore have the records.

The US Government has been analyzing this data through Project Salus.  

They know that:

  • 71% of the Covid-19 cases occurred in these fully-vaccinated people and roughly 80% of the population >65 is vaccinated.  In other words they know the vaccines do not stop you from getting Covid.

  • Both of the mRNA vaccines lose effectiveness between 4-6 months post-injection; the failure rate doubles between 5-6 months as opposed to 3-4 months.

  • Age is NOT why the vaccines lose effectiveness.  It is simply that they stop working.

  • While Moderna vaccines work slightly better than the Pfizer ones, the key word here is slightly.  Both degrade materially and the difference in the 5-6 month timeframe is not statistically significant.  Yes, it appears to be slightly better but not statistically so.  In other words the damn things do not work to provide durable protection -- period.

  • The nuclear lie: As of August 7th 60% of hospitalizations were among fully-vaccinated individuals.  You have heard repeatedly that this is now a "disease of the unvaccinated."  That is a damned, knowing lie and they knew it all the way back to the first of August.

  • In the 5-6 month timeframe the hospitalization protection also is wildly ineffective; the rate per 100,000 approximately doubles between the 3-4 month and 5-6 month time periods.

  • Prior infection is highly protective but post six months vaccination has become much less-so.  Note that "prior infection" now goes back 18 months to the first wave.  Do we still need to have a conversation about "natural immunity"?  No: THE US GOVERNMENT KNOWS DAMNED WELL AND HAS PROVED THAT INFECTION PROTECTS BETTER THAN THEIR FRAUDULENT JABS.

This is now all in the data folks, and the US Government knows it.

You have been lied to repeatedly folks -- these are not errors, and what Fauci did yesterday on TV was not an error either.  These are not "noble" anything; they are lies.  The jabs are a failure in that no matter the promise you care to hang your hat on they become more and more worthless over time and that time period is short enough to void the effectiveness which the FDA claims must exist in order to approve such a thing as a "vaccine."

The Government has been analyzing this data and knows damned well the jabs stop working and in fact this is not a disease of the unvaccinated; the claims that the hospitals are "full of unvaccinated people" are damned lies intended to coerce you into a dangerous and, over time worthless act.

At the same time they know that prior infection and recovery is effective and remains effective yet they continue to claim that there is "no data" to prove this.  They're full of crap; they not only have the data they've analyzed it and know that's yet another lie; there is no reason to take a jab that wears off if you have been previously infected.  Period.

And finally a new analysis shows this is not US-centricinfection rates are not correlated with vaccination percentages, which is hard, statistical proof that the jabs are worthless to stop you from getting and giving Covid-19 to others.

The ghouls involved in this up and down the line, from hospital administrators to doctors to nurses to politicians all must hang for this.

To those who took the jabs under coercion: This is proof they knew damn well they were lying when they put the mandate in place without which you would not have consented.  The same is true for data, which they have, on what works in existing drugs.  They knew, for example, as I documented last year, that COPD/Emphysema sufferers died at a lower than normal rate last year.  How is this possible for a viral respiratory disease that invades the lungs?  They knew that too -- its the inhaled steroids those people are commonly using as a maintenance drug; rather than offer them to you they sent your loved ones home until they choked to death.  Likewise the same data is in their systems for chronic users of others drugs (such as HCQ) for Lupus, RA, and other conditions and whether they work, on the evidence, across millions of people.


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Amen. And amen. Sharing with gusto.

The whole world is one big ****ing scam
Why are you giving a vulgarity warning here? Our genial host is an advocate of both skull****ing and sodomy via rusty chainsaw. Credit to Rollformer
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They are lying. They are telling lies for our own good (noble lies). We can not handle the truth. What happens when all the jabbed realize they have been conned into taking a poison that harms them?
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For the reader: the "nuclear" lie about 60% of hospitalizations is on page 12 of the linked powerpoint. This was in early August; well before the "98% of hospitalizations are unvaccinated" became the standard media lie.

To save this slideshow as a PDF, look to the lower right and click the little notebook icon and select Print to PDF; then click Open PDF and it should download or preview in your browser.
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And the only way for them to pay for this is with their lives.

You can try to change my mind, but you won't.

We're ****ed. There will be no happy ending here; there is no going back to 'normal.'. There are only bad outcomes and worse outcomes. And we don't get to choose those, either.
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Worse than worthless. That goes for the government, the doctors, and the vaxx.
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So ... if at best, the jabs buy 4-6 months of reduced risk, in terms of susceptibility to disease, not transmission, then they're therapeutic treatments, period.

Yeah we've been lied to big time. First question is what happens this winter. The current wave of folks getting their first jabs due to mandate pressure will maybe last until February, then we should see another wave like Delta. The folks who got theirs earlier in the year will all be waning by December, and then what? Boosters are a fraud, the FDA and CDC panels both denied their authorization but were overruled by one politician.

The adverse reaction risk (clots, other) multiplies with each jab, so will the CDC recommend moar boosters in February?

I would say the "vaccines" succeeded in several aspects:

1. Enriching big pharma and select investors
2. Kicking the can down the road.

Mother nature and her consequences await us.

The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue .. @ the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they'll just take down the scenery, they'll pull back the curtains, they 'll move the tables & chairs out of the way & you'll see the brick wall at the back of the theater/FZ
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Why hasn't someone hit Fauci in the nose?

Physical violence is awful, but sometimes it's the only way to deal with an annoyance (mosquitoes and flies come to mind). Fauci is much more a problem than the mosquitoes I hangout with on the Gunnison river- and they carry West Nile Fever.

Why hasn't some big gay biker guy beat
the feces out of that terrible old man for AZT?

And now, with millions losing work, millions negatively affected by the continued stream of wet bull feces pouring out of his face daily, well, I'm surprised he doesn't have at least a broken nose.

People are so fickle that in a couple years the most ardent jabbers will be the ones bitching the loudest about the inhumanity of this time period.

And, as they're bitching, they will be gladly locking a new set of whatever slave chains are in fashion around their necks.

Stupid is as stupid does.

The problem is most people want to point a finger rather than their thumb when dealing with challenges.
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We knew they were lying since at least March of 2020. And ever since. Yeah - 15 days to flatten the curve!

The so-called "vaccines" are not vaccines. They do not work on covid, as they weren't designed for that. And they were not developed at "warp speed". They already had them. They were looking for an excuse to use them. They manufactured one.

Trump was TOLD to do what he did. He is an order-taker like all the rest.
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Yes! Yes! They all are lying. But it don't matter. To many people at least I know believe their lies. Keep telling a lie long enough people believe it. I was ask just yesterday by several people if I was vaccinated, and I said no. Their attitude change, and they looked at me like I was a monster. They truly believe the unvaccinated are the problem and nothing will change their mind. One person said she had both shots, and the booster, and felt great with no issues. I don't understand why this vaccine gives some people horrible side effects, and others have no issues whatsoever. I will never take this jab!
In my area people are buying 50,000$ and up new car and truck vehicles, and bidding up 30,000$ over asking price to buy new homes. While others are cutting back on groceries and travel do to the higher prices. Everything seems out of whack and strange to me. I am not sure what all this is leading to, but something is not right, and I can't figure it all out. Something has to give good or bad. Whatever the outcome I wish all of us in the know here in the Market Ticket Forum, and elsewhere all the best.
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When all this first came out, I was at the front of the line to get the vaccine. As I was waiting they gave me this to read.

I had a hard time comprehending the first page and the warnings that it wasn't FDA approved. When I asked about it, I was told it was and emergency authorization.

So what I said, it hasn't been FDA approved. She looked at me like I had two heads.

I got up and left and started looking into why the non FDA approved supposed vaccine was being front and center regarding the MSM.

Turns out I was correct getting up and leaving.

See page one of the flyer attached.


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How long until the sheep demand boosters? They'll look at the data and instead of realizing the lie, "think" that the only way out of this is more clot shots. Natural immunity isn't a thing to these idiots.
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@Shadowmask - here you go


I don't give a flying **** if you're offended.
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Nothing we can do to stop them from dying. Might as well enjoy the show if you can.
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They will bury this as hard as they can. Now they are pushing for kids 5-11 to get vaccinated to have a "safe" Thanksgiving.
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In a logical world this would mean an end to jab mandates and only use jabs for high risk people.

We know we don't live in that world. The medical complex refuses to allow people to use safe drugs that may or may not work. They prefer to let them die. They give everyone Remdesivir which looks like it might kill over 10% of people who take it.

What is likely to happen if they can get away with it is even more mandates and force people to get jabbed every 3 months. How rich will that make all these ghouls?
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So, is the 60% hospitalization rate as to all hospitalizations or just for the 65+ age category? And, I assume a great majority of the hospitalizations are in at least 50+ people. Either way, there has been flat out lying going on out of the Biden Administration and CDC, etc. Not that that is a surprise.
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They lied about the case count. The higher the Ct the higher the rate of false positive.

They then released guidance to limit the Ct count to 28 when testing vaccinated people. A Ct of 28 is a reasonable upper limit to find Covid without excessive false positives. By limiting the Ct count of vaccinated people they are limiting the number of cases to make the jab look better.

They lied when they said you can get re-infected. Any one of those false positives can actually get Covid and look like a re-infection. They can even get another false positive.

They lied when they said you don't get natural immunity. When you go look for antibodies in someone who was falsely positive you won't find any. Because they never had Covid.

They lied when they listed every death they could as a Covid death - even if it was a murder-suicide.

They lied that ventilators would help when it was clear from the data that 80-95% would leave in a box.

They lied about early treatment when the NIH itself lists a number of those treatments as being investigated. They manipulate the tests in various ways to make it look like they didn't work. For example in one test Hydroxychloroquine was given in toxic doses. The dosage of HCQ is well known and to do such things is downright monstrous and something you'd expect from Nazi Germany.

They lied about the early trials of the gene therapy masquerading as a vaccine.

They lie about the jab deaths coding as many as they can as unvaccinated covid deaths.

I can go on and on and on...

They've lied and lied and lied from the beginning and built a mountainous fear that there was no hope at all other than to get jabbed. They lied about the downside and have likely killed hundreds of thousands of people and permanently disabled countless more. I can't even begin to imagine what it's going to look like in only 5 years.

A fitting end would be new Nuremburg trials for the massive crimes against humanity along with the return of public hangings.

Liberty has died unexpectedly after a brief illness...
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What are you supposed to tell people when they come back with the inevitable, "but you're 1/3 likely to die if you are hospitalized" line?
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We got a booster email offering boosters at my job. Fortunately, I am remote so I don't even need to be vaxxed, which I am not. what cracked me up is my place is following the recommendations of the Governor, a worthless lawyer. The boosters aren't required yet, but I am sure the goalposts will be moved like they were in Israel. A-holes!
As for new hires, they must be vaxxed. Recruiting has gotten more difficult and management can't figure out why.
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In that linked study, it makes sense that those countries and counties that are highly vaccinated are seeing a positive correlation with cases; just like with the Pertussis vaccine.

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I'm just awaiting the show now myself. There is no getting through to the screaming Karen's loving every new mandate and demanding you submit. The doctors should have know better but went along. The mainstream media was already lost. What a tragic state of affairs. I'm still amazed by all of the tweets/online comments from the brainwashed masses happy to shun/lock-up and basically kill their fellow humans, even children. There's really nothing else to call it at this point but mass murder in the first degree.
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Nothing we can do to stop them from dying

Dr Nathan Thompson presents the case of an anonymized patient (formerly type 2 but set right by diet/exercise as our host has long championed) whose blood work pre & post vax brings him to that conclusion too. Surprised that this is still up:
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So the question is: Why the **** do people continue to vote for their guy whoever the **** that is every 2-4 years? What is the point? Garbage in; garbage out is all we get in this current system. This includes fed and state but if these past 19 months are any indication, I put local in the same completely bought and paid for categories with the rest of them.

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"Big Boat Leak: Despite "vax passport" requirement, at least 5 passengers on the first cruise out of NYC since the C19 pandemic began have tested positive for the virus. The passengers & ship were then subjected to quarantine & retesting on the ship."
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