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2021-09-15 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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Note the right side (category) -- this is a guest post, again from Ishmael.

“Embrace your extremists.”  --Vox Day

Shooting a bunch of kids is something only a monster would do!  

“Before this is all over, they’ll be building statues to St. Breivik.”  --paraphrased Vox Day

Two years ago, the thought of shooting any children was awful.  Anyone who didn’t immediately disavow such was jumped on by a shocked audience. Now after nineteen months of clown world abuse, talk of BBQing entire families elicits grim smiles, dread, and resignation along with the shock.  

No one has made any medical “expert” the guest of honor at Sunday dinner. No one has firebombed a politician’s house.  No one has shot a hospital administrator’s wife while she walks the dog.  I hope we never come to that point in America, that is what a civil war looks like.

The only way to prevent politicians from getting regularly BBQed is to embrace the current extremists.  The ones that cuss about coof bull**** in public and make others uncomfortable. The people who refuse to wear masks and make a huge stink about it.  The terminated employee who sabotages the company on his way out.

Not so bad compared to living through a civil war.

If you don’t want to join in, embrace an extremist by staying out of their way.  Don’t tone police someone who says something distasteful which furthers your side’s goals.  Clap when someone screams, “**** you and **** your mask ****,” in a quiet shop.  I’d say smile, but your face is hidden.

Don’t give a half ass apology about language used in a blog post or video when you’re sharing it. The apology says you don’t really believe what you just shared. If you really want to win, who the **** cares about proper language?  

Is this fight worth winning?  

We didn’t love freedom enough.” --Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

Read the whole quote.  A few supported extremists, and Solzhenitsyn would have never written The Gulag Archipelago. 

Extremists save your ass if you let them.  Ponder this: What comes after? What if words are ignored and action comes?  Is that a world you want to live in?

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Reza Shah Pahlavi, the first Shah of Iran, famously issued a decree forbidding the wearing of face veils and head scarfs by women. Although the libertarian in me could never condone the decree, he has always held the soft spot in my heart for it.

I believe we have reached a point where its time to begin aggressively mocking - at a minimum people - in public people who are wearing facemasks; particularly outdoors, walking alone. It is time we take the offensive.
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talked to Fed Ex driver yesterday that said that the drivers in his terminal are prepared to walk if the jab is mandatory.
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Dont give a half ass apology about language used in a blog post or video when youre sharing it. The apology says you dont really believe what you just shared. If you really want to win, who the **** cares about proper language?


Yeah I'll take that one. I want the posts I share to be read, and preface accordingly. Thanks for trying to help but **** you.
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Ishmael. You , sir, are speaking my language. The extremists save nations. Thank you. Beers for you.

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Now after nineteen months of clown world abuse, talk of BBQing entire families elicits grim smiles, dread, and resignation along with the shock.

No one has made any medical expert the guest of honor at Sunday dinner. No one has firebombed a politicians house. No one has shot a hospital administrators wife while she walks the dog. I hope we never come to that point in America, that is what a civil war looks like.

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Extremists save your ass if you let them. Ponder this: What comes after? What if words are ignored and action comes? Is that a world you want to live in?

what was i warning you all about quite some time ago, for moral reasons. Did you forget?

i was going to caution that if any person seems to me a possible threat for killing children, all of his problems are over by my hand including members here if i am in your proximity or can reasonably get to you after certain identification. Don't think that if things get bad there are not many of us who will quietly turn on fellow "patriots" who are willing to do such a wrong.

You do not kill children below the age of conscience unable to disown their parents.

This contributor just gave you through Karl's forum a practical reason to not do such evil and to support things which work through moral means. Both actually require bravery. Only a coward targets innocents and defenseless. And, it takes balls to support people openly who are risking themselves to make a point and to do it yourself.

Had to listen to enough crap in "The Bar" section where people were even justifying the Irish cowards in the struggle against the British. Terrorism is a cowards game as much as it is a poor man's atomic bomb. Perhaps Patton was right, killing should involve honor not wonder weapons.

My argument was moral.

I did not ask it the same way, "Is this the society that you wish to live it."

The caution was that we would no longer have the moral standing to ever be what we once were ever again and would continue as a broken people without moral authority for all known time. Societies never recover from such actions but exist as mere impotent shadows of their former selves. It affects the society as the level of individual psychology by numerous known mechanisms.

Inferior morals lead to inferior societies.

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My brain just took a giant leap towards understanding why you do what you do Karl. I had never thought of you as an extremist, but you are and I thank you.

Time for me to step up my game.
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@Comrader -- Me too. Both UPS and Fedex drivers have said the same to me. I canceled my planet fitness membership yesterday and was asked why by the young lady... "gotta save where I can as I'll probably be axed in coming months." She and the young dude both said this is all such bull****! It actually gave me a little hope in that they are both early/mid 20s and feel this way. She went as far as to trumpet our usual mantra of "I don't give two ****s if you want to jab, just leave me alone while I choose to not." Very smart young people. I know, I know.... they're outnumbered by a lot but my belief is there are a lot more than we think out there who are thoughtful and understand things.
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Your guest's post is very timely in my mind, for a number of reasons. Having recently celebrated a birthday I've been in the habit of revisiting my childhood. Though I can't say my childhood was full of freedom, my parents were and remain hardcore liberals who loved to govern us through tyranny. That time period at least held the illusion of more freedom.

Thinking of Solzhenitsyn's words, I love(d) freedom. I did what I could back then to fight as much as possible against my parents. Usually it was for things like being forbidden to hangout with the neighborhood kids at certain locations. One place in particular, known as "the lot" was an underdeveloped acre of land at the end of the neighborhood. I can't tell you how many times my parents sowed the narrative that we were to be abducted by evil rapists should we visit the lot.

Yet even at 8 I wasn't willing to take their story as gospel. I thought, "will I really be abducted?" This was quickly followed by "maybe playing down there is worth the risk."

Thats pretty much the beginning of my skeptical and rebellious nature.

Later on I received a number of whippings for going to the lot. It was worth it. The freedom of being on your bicycle and playing with the other kids was worth it. I was thinking after reading your guest's post, that probably, at the end of the day, even if I had been abducted, it was still worth it.

I loved freedom, still do. To have even tasted it just once made the risk of whippings, rapings, and death worth it.

Though I am somewhat fearful of what comes after being fired for not taking the jab, I know this is a moment like back then. The choice is simply, either ride into it all knowing death may wait on the other side, or compromise your freedom. In all the ways I can think, that compromise is worse than death.

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I should learn today whether or not my work will mandate vaccines when we return to the office. I am prepared to quit immediately if that's the case.

I live in Ontario, Canada where they will be implementing vaccine passports starting on the 22nd, so I am fully prepared for work to do the same. We shall see.

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I'm already there.

Visiting/working in a somewhat rural/touristy town. No statewide mask mandate here but so many small, locally-owned businesses are demanding you wear a mask to enter. I've been making a point of going in, with no mask, and confronting the owners right away. "I really can't come in here and shop without a mask? Really?"

"No, sir, it would be appreciated if you wear a mask."

"I will not wear a mask and I'll take my business elsewhere. Good luck with yours."

OK, I'm not being that obnoxious, but it has to hurt to see $ walking out the door. These are pretty poor communities that need people like me visiting and spending $.
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My family and I have been actively resisting the tyranny since around April of last year. We don't social distance, we go out to restaurants and church and bars for karaoke or concerts. We don't wear masks unless we are paid handsomely to do so (i.e. work). I refuse to take the poison masquerading as a vaccine and am ready and willing to be unemployed in a few short weeks.

That being said, this Ticker illuminates the need for myself and my circle of family and friends who ARE awake and ARE against the NWO bull**** to step up our game. We are at war and our focus needs to shift from defense to offense. It is clearly time to charge the line. We are on the precipice of losing everything if we do not.
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Greggityd.
It's worth repeating.

DO NOT QUIT.

Make them fire you, with a letter from HR stating exactly why.

First, when push comes to shove there is a slightly good chance they will back the **** down and not even do it. 2nd and most importantly, should this all go south your lawyer is going to thank you when he wins your court case.
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Another long-time lurker, first-time poster.

I refuse to wear a mask, for health reasons and just general orneriness. No state mandate here, but some businesses/locations require it. I just go in anyway. The only exception to that is my church; they require masks for the unvaccinated, and it seems a bit inappropriate to me to misrepresent my status in order to attend Mass. As a result, I haven't been to Mass in over a year. I miss it.

I get a lot of nasty looks, presumably because I'm unmasked, but as a former teacher, I'm used to it.
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@Thelazer

I understand this position, but I was planning on leaving in March to start my own business. I'm ready to quit. It ****s them over more if I do.
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@Hyalite, The "mask required" sign is what is obnoxious!!

This was a great guest post. I agree that it caused something to click and I will be sharing it with everyone I can.
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Last week, I sent a carefully considered note to twelve close friends. I urged them to prepare for a difficult period ahead and gave reasons all here already appreciate. All but one of these folks are jabbed. Four have responded. One, a professional editor, suggested publication. Another, a professional psychologist, said he found it hard to follow.

The frame is a binding holding the blinders in place. Be that voice they may hear only in the moments between sleep and awakening. That is a time of resonance able to counter the trance.
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Allright. Let's see if we can get to two full hands of middle fingers. I'm called an extremist in my circles, know my audience a little bit and really have no fun either trying to spread the message. I'm sure it is a full time job to research and write tickers. It is a part time job to share one in a way that a) gets posted and b) sinks in.

I rarely get past a) Here's what gets censored in my circles, all in separate attempted postings:
* References to Ignaz Semmelweis
* "The virus evolves in accordance to its environment"
* VAERS data
* "Ignorance is strength"
* the word "dysmeorrhea" - yes, seriously. That's too rough.

I think the whole game isn't only to embrace (current) extremists, but to shift normal back in place. Privately, sure use the term and play the part. Publicly? Might as well give your opponent a club with your name and address. By the time it gets to an amateur or professional propagandist, as soon as you can be perceived as such it becomes the whole ****ing story. n

Tell me what works better. I'm all ears.
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No one has made any medical expert the guest of honor at Sunday dinner. No one has firebombed a politicians house. No one has shot a hospital administrators wife while she walks the dog.


I sometimes wonder if this is coming. There is a lot of anger out there, and it only takes a spark to light the kindling. If and when it does start, it will be impossible to stop until it runs its course (like the Balkans in the early 90's). It will start with a very few people. As mentioned, a politicians home will be firebombed or a state medical board member will be ambushed and shot on their way to work. Or several of Pfizer's manufacturing plants burned to the ground. Once a few of these events happan, and the people doing them getting away with it, a preference cascade will start because more and more people will be emboldened to do similar acts.

If this happens, my guess is that it will start next spring. Violence usually starts when the weather get warm and there will be millions of people who have vaccine injury, know someone with vaccine injury, and/or know people who died due to the vaccinations. Millions of these people will be very angry and will be looking for targets to vent their anger on. That there is no compensation for vaccine injury or death will fuel their anger.


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@Stetson
Our admirable young priest announced last spring that if you wanted to know his personal reasons for not wearing a mask (or busting our balls for not wearing one) , leaning into the mike, IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! And if you don't like it, (pointing to the 4 exits) There's the door, there's the door, there's the door, and there's the door. I damn near stood up and cheered.
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@Stetson

This is a long video (debate) between a priest and Dr. Janet Smith. To boil it down, the priest cites Aquinas and Augustin that lying is always wrong. Dr. Smith position is that it is only a lie if the person asking the question deserves to know the truth. Are you hiding Jews here? Is the most common example. Does the Gestapo agent have a right to the truth? Does the parish demanding to know your vaccination status have a right to that information? In both cases I would say no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQmmLqSu....
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@Abelardlindsey you could probably throw some hospitals in there too for the crap they're pulling.

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Extremists save your ass if you let them. Ponder this: What comes after? What if words are ignored and action comes? Is that a world you want to live in?


Ponder this...

THIS LAND IS MINE (1943)

In a Nazi-occupied French town, meek and mild-mannered teacher Albert Lory lives with his mother. Few people, including his students, have any respect for him and he literally shakes in his boots during an air raid. He is quite friendly with his fellow teacher, Louise Martin and her brother Paul who also happen to be neighbors. If truth be told, Albert is quite in love with Louise but she is in a relationship with George Lambert and he feels she is quite beyond his reach. Paul is a member of the resistance and is killed when Lambert informs the Nazis. Outraged at what he's done, Albert arrives at Lambert's office just as the informer commits suicide. Albert is charged with murder but the local Nazi commander, Major Erich von Keller, offers him a deal: if Albert agrees to remain silent rather then continue a speech in his own defense which is arousing fellow citizens, he will ensure a not guilty verdict. Albert returns to the courtroom and in an act of bravery urges his fellow citizens to fight their oppressors.



FULL TRANSCRIPT here: https://subslikescript.com/movie/This_La....

For the churlish Twitter generation, the climactic Third Act begins at the 33:00 mark.

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Even Mayor Manville is two men.

They both appear to be strong,
but they're both weak.

The outside man has
to pretend he's saving the town

to hide the inside man
who's saving himself.


"The meek shall inherit the Earth."
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@shermanbroder
For what definition of meek?
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@Winder & @Freehavenmonahan -- Thank you for your comments. The video was a big help. I decided I'm going back to church. If anyone questions or comments, I'll be honest. If they have a problem with what I'm doing, so be it.

I suppose I could say "to hell with them," but in this particular context, that's probably not an appropriate response.

Thanks again --
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