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Little_eddie
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To Booster or Not?

Just trying to figure out what is the best option, within the current knowledge base, for anyone who took the shots? 50 to 70 yo and in reasonable good health.

Most of the people I know in that group are coming up on 4 to 6 months now and some are starting to get worried.

I was asked this morning and my current thinking is No to a booster but either way if you start to feel sick to hit it with everything you can, fast and offen. And give them a FLCCC handout.

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Swingtrader
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blanca wrote..
Stay out of the hospital. Those PCR tests with all the false positives are killing people.


The hospitals are killing people.

Being unvaccinated, I'm sure to never come out of a hospital.

If I get sick I will treat myself at home with current flccc protocols and what I can get from India or Vanuatu.

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Robackrman
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Doctor And Hospital Staff Scheme On How To Inflate COVID Numbers And Scare Non-Vaxxed Into Thinking They Are Going To Die

https://vidmax.com/video/207240-busted-d....
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I think we have to be more blunt, we have to be more forceful, we have to say something coming out, you know you don't get vaccinated, you know you're going to die. I mean, let's just be really blunt to these people.

Once we are beyond the COVID mania, there will be an underlying tension that will diminish but never completely go away.
Disgusted
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The unvaaxed shall inherit the earth. I agree Dingleberry, the uvaxxed will be blamed all the way to the end. I'm being very careful about who knows my vaxx status. In fact I would have no problem lying to certain dumbasses just to not be in the crosshairs, when the whole thing goes nuclear.

Survivor
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https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2021/09/03....
....do I still think SARS-CoV2 exists? Yes, I do. I firmly believe that I watched people dying of it, from it. They died in a way I have never seen people do so before, and I have seen a lot of people die. They seemed quite well, then suddenly their oxygen sats dropped like a stone they still seemed okay otherwise then they died. The end.
Survivor
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Karl- typos? I am not criticising but the sort of places I can link to this have a lot of pedants who will try and discredit things.

Vaccination produces NO "N" antibodies at all because they're not encoded in the vaccine.

The short trials we did do this time around before EUAs were issued

all these other "letters and numbers" mutations were not known as they didn't exist

The presumption when someone who is vaccinated and has an antibody titer has this sort of thing happen is that is, until conclusively excluded, what you're dealing with is VEI and it's a pull the damned alarm right now because the risk of people being imminently ****ed en-masse is on the table sort of event.
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Well maybe that'll be the silver lining getting **** canned for nonvaxx compliance....
I won't be around to see all my pts die.

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Theophorus
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@Asimov - Anecdotally I've heard of several more, all vexxed, that show up in the ER and within hours are on a vent. This is not the first one; it's only unique quality is that it got written up in the paper because he's a three-time ticket-holder.


I'm a paramedic, 80 yo from a nursing home, 2 days post vax booster, had a fall, possible hip fracture. We do our 12 lead EKG, start an IV, take him to hospital. 3 hours later he's on bipap, cks and trops and d dimer through the roof, 12 lead unremarkable, no st changes. Partner asks the doc of it could be the vaccine "no no no no." Next day we find out he died, lungs full to the top with fluid...they're calling it a non stemi (non st elevation mi)

And that's what it will remain.
Drifter
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My bro in law died from exposure to mold. Covid however is on his death cert.

Because of an emergency order signed by Governor little in Idaho, hospitals in the panhandle are now not bound by standards of care. You certainly won't get any antibody tests right now-- just a body bag for a pillow.
Cwatson1982
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@Mikeyinfl

https://secure.jbs.elsevierhealth.com/ac....

Hard to say what it means in context but it implies to me that the vaccine induced immune response might prevent an N antibody response from forming during a breakthrough infection (OAS).

The authors state:
"Of the 17 that were anti-N negative, median number of days between PCR positivity and sampling mid-point was 52 (range 967) so it is surprising that the majority of these had not mounted an anti-N antibody response (7). This low number of seroconversions might suggest that anti-N antibodies may be insensitive as a marker of natural infection post vaccination. *It is possible that early viral neutralization, perhaps even at mucosal surfaces, might modify the natural humoral response and limit the development of anti-N antibodies.*"

Which seems like wishful thinking to me but I'm not well versed enough in the minutia to say so definitively.
Mikeyinfl
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First of all I want to apologize if in any way offended folks who for whatever reason got the jab. I was really aiming to highlight the fact that they may be at risk and didn't mean to insult.

Second, Cwatson1982, I wanted to add to my previous post on the 10 subjects in figure 7 for the folks that recovered and got the vax on top of NI.

If you look at those with declining N T-cells vs. Spike T-cells, there looks like about 7 of 10 with a marked decline in T. R1, R3 R5, R6, R8, R9, and R10. R2, R4, and R7 seem to have a slower decline relative to Spike than the others or with this small sample ~ 30%. Again, too small a sample and ideally, we would learn a lot more with at least 1 if not more samplings later in time.

What I was hoping to glean from the study you mentioned is of the recovered breakthroughs without N antibodies (77%), what does their Spike antibody profile look like? Did they generate more S antibodies or as TG has pointed out before, are the Spike antibodies now either low, very low or perhaps just barely enough to get them by in terms of recovery??? Iow, is their tank now empty or do they still have some gas left? Of course, I'm betting that no one is tracking the time elapsed since fully or partially vaxed, but that would be also good data to eval.

Rand Paul was on Laura the other night and surprised me by saying that they need to work on a new version of the vaccine since we know that the boosters are the same formula as the original jabs and likely will be ineffective. I didn't expect him to call for a V2 booster. No mention of other treatments?
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Not sure if this has been posted here already, but I watched it this morning as I was eating breakfast. Dr. Ardis explains how the remdesivir is being used in the hospitals and killing people. They know...

https://www.katedalleyshow.com/show-topi....

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Per his wife/fiancee facebook page, he went home Aug 31. Also, his blood tests came back negative twice, so maybe he's just a frequent flyer?

https://www.facebook.com/jena.c.parris
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...do I still think SARS-CoV2 exists? Yes, I do. I firmly believe that I watched people dying of it, from it. They died in a way I have never seen people do so before, and I have seen a lot of people die. They seemed quite well, then suddenly their oxygen sats dropped like a stone they still seemed okay otherwise then they died. The end.[/
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Dismiss anyone who says it doesn't exist out of hand.

The first time I saw a true covid patient it was mind bending.

70 male, a few co morbidities, complaining of feeling unwell, nothing serous or specific. I put the sat monitor on him and it read 57.

57.

For context before that I'd never seen anyone conscious with a sat of anything below about 70, and these people would be in Extremis. Severely short of breath, praying for help, absolutely panicking. You should have a sat of around 96-100, anything below 93 unless you're a copd patient and you'll feel short of breath.

This guy saw my face and said "what's wrong?"

He was comfortable, resp rate normal, heart rate normal, yet his organs are at that moment were dying of hypoxia. I tried two different sat probes and another two at the hospital. He died a week later.

Covid is a whole knew thing, trust me
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My peaceful Sunday morning with coffee in hand reading the Ticker was shattered by my wife telling me she would submit to the weekly testing, if it came to that, to keep her job. Her implication was that I should do the same. My response to that revelation is personal, but I implore our sphere and outside relationships not to submit even though there will be individual cases of financial sacrifice. It will not stop at this mandate unless we make it stop.
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@survivor

Thanks for the share, this is a great read. Seems to really understand and appreciate all the nuances.

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Tickerguy
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@Survivor - Typos fixed.

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Jwm_in_sb
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Theophorus,

Because it's a bioweapon developed via GOF techniques.
Packetcap
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@Robackrman:

Weekly testing is not going to last long. It's expensive, the tests suck, and you will get into an area where the test results don't return within the seven day window. What then? Can't work because the lab is overloaded?

Luckypenny
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Karl,
Can we reach Herd Immunity if a majority of the country is 'Jabbed', and they then remain susceptible to ongoing variants ?? The remaining minority of un-Jabbed can never be a majority.

Is the Jab defeating the numbers to reach Herd. ??

Thanks for being a source for reason and fact in this mess.
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I have to have the breast cancer surgery either in late December or early January. Fortunately for me it is outpatient surgery (really!).

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Robackrman
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Regarding my previous post and referencing the attached I find it likely I will be presented in the upcoming days with the opportunity to do my part by joining the resistance. Will let you know as events unfold...

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Regrubun
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William and Mary's Covid Dashboard: https://www.wm.edu/about/administration/....

Most colleges have this on their websites and you can follow how they're doing.
Mikeyinfl
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@Cwatson1982

The link doesn't seem to work? "https://secure.jbs.elsevierhealth.com/ac....

Anyone else read the document below? (11 pages)

https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-conte....

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The good news is that we are more comprehensively protected against COVID-19 by our own pre-existing immunity than was previously understood.
On the other hand, this pre-existing immunity aggravates the risk that COVID-19 vaccines will induce blood clotting and/or leaky blood vessels.
This risk must be expected to escalate with each revaccination. Vaccine-induced harm to our blood vessels is unlikely to be rare.

Perhaps the most pertinent finding is that, due to the discovery of a widespread memory-type antibody
response to SARS-CoV-2, the antibodies induced by the COVID-19 vaccines can be expected to activate
the so-called complement system. This can bring about the destruction of any cell that manufactures the
SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, particularly in the circulation. If that happens to the endothelia, that is, the cell
layer that lines the inner surfaces of our blood vessels, then those vessels may begin to leak [6] and clots
will form. Given that 2021 research showed the spike protein to enter the bloodstream shortly after
vaccination [5], this dangerous endothelial involvement in spike-production is highly likely, and should be
expected to occur.
Technica
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Not sure if this has been posted here already, but I watched it this morning as I was eating breakfast. Dr. Ardis explains how the remdesivir is being used in the hospitals and killing people. They know...

https://www.katedalleyshow.com/show-topi


@Nickdanger I found a higher-quality, larger video of this on Bitchute.

Watched the whole thing--it's really worth a watch. It's about 16 minutes long. Be sure to watch it till the end because he says why the hospital kicked him out...

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