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Tickerguy
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@1crzydmnd - I frankly don't care if Roberts does or doesn't. There is no way for the Administration to win on this.

He won't get compliance "voluntarily" and if they try to shoot, no matter how (by physical force or violence, starvation, whatever) the stability of the entire national economy and possibly civil order is destroyed.

The ONLY way that economic stability is maintained is if the USSC tosses it.

They know that; you cannot declare war on a quarter of the population and get away with it. You're either stopped before you do it or at least the economy and political system are burnt to the ground, and if someone does something STUPID (and someone likely will in trying to enforce something like this) the entire ****ing NATION may burn to the ground.

Hillary destroyed any chance of winning when she called half the nation "Deplorables." Calling people names is a whole different game than threatening to kill them, whether directly or indirectly through starvation.

You can round up and jail a few "crazies." You can't round up or kill a quarter of the population - you either fail spectacularly (and your families, homes and friends all get burnt out of their residences and die) or you "succeed" and the entire asset base and credit structure of the nation is destroyed and you're ****ed anyway.

This is nothing more than a loud-mouthed bluff looking for someone to hang it on, and the USSC is the obvious target.

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Keenan
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RE: Nazis: Listening to the decrepit puppet's tirade brought to mind, repeatedly, the phrase "final solution."

The "Democratic party" brand is completely disingenuous.Term them the party of tyrants & authoritarians.
Jack_crabb
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**** that fat ****, Lockdown Larry.

Heil Hogan!

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Shermanbroder
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QUESTION: Vaccine manufacturers Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson have over 100 employees AND are federal government contractors. Will Biden enforce his vaccine mandate on them?

Same question with regard to the NIH, FDA, White House and Congressional staff, Supreme Court, Federal Reserve and every affiliated banking/financial institution in the country.

[If Biden does enforce his mandates on our nation's nomenklatura class, I expect there will be a sudden run on saline solution.]
Lulubell
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I know a lot of people that have had covid, they're all fine, I know a lot of people that had the jab, they are all fine. There've been so many lies they're all so confused and chaotic it's hard to know what the truth is but the people pushing this are blatantly evil and it seems like a good policy not to do what evil people tell you to do.
Bakerv
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@ScottJ175"We MUST make peace with the idea, folks, that perhaps God's chosen role in all this for you isn't heroic guerrilla fighter but is instead martyr."

Um...NO.
Wifi
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He' still here folks gird your loins.


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Flappingeagle
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The No Fort Sumpter stance is a great one IMO. Make the left make the first move and demonstrate how serious they are about this. Mass refusal to comply is the way to win this. Financial leverage is, to use Taleb, fragility and boy do we have a lot of financial leverage!

As for the jab, why would you ever get a booster unless you have an extreme case of one comorbidity or, multiple comorbidities? ANY, that is if there is any, boost from the jab should make you more willing to get a natural infection and build real resistance to future variants of COVID.

It seems that the rabbit-hole of the jab has turned into a well where all you can do is fall until you hit bottom.

Flap

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Alphaomega
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What I find interesting, and, by interesting, I mean it in the Chinese curse way, is that usually, when an administration like the current junta does something illegal, they tend to know they'll find a court that will declare the illegal action legal.

However, the vaccine mandate is so over the top, it's rather breathtaking. And, no way a court is going to allow this to stand.
My2pups
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What scares me the most is if Joe steps down, we get Kamala. And if she steps down, we get Pelosi. After living in SF 40yrs, I have seen more than enough of those two.
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@My2pups - If Kamala is President the Senate will leave the VP office vacant and the Senate is deadlocked for the remainder of the Congress.

There is no possible way the Republicans are going to re-establish the tie-breaking vote in the Senate. Nope. Won't happen.

So you get a figurehead who can do basically nothing, and a Congress that can threaten to cut the money off simply by refusing to act; the need pass nothing to do that, just fail to pass.

Calm down; the left does not want Biden out of office. In fact, they're desperate to not lose that tie-breaking vote.

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Jules
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What @Susanlauren said...
Consider this:
The economy is already on life support. Force 25% of the population to walk off/be fired from their jobs. That should finish things off nicely. And the unjabbed get the blame. "You killed grandma AND my 401k". TPTB get their great reset while we get the targets painted on our backs.
Talk about divisive.

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Redjack
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Using OSHA was an interesting move.

OSHA does not need to follow the USCONT. They can, and do, go anywhere they want at anytime. They can, and do, enforce laws without due process or review.

So, in my hyper caffeinated state, I would be the plan is to send an agent to each non compliant state house, governors mansion, and court house. Declare it unsafe and closed immediately, and walk away.

The turd in the punch bowl is this would work if laws and rules meant anything. They don't now. This is game on.

Oh, and Whitehat's comments on blue states is on the nose. IL has a similar mandate, and they are just giving mouth service to it. Yes, it means they can destroy you at any time, but that means you can destroy them too (mob states seem to be like that).
Tappedout
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They were already in a corner, and the administration was already over.

There was no recovering from Afghanistan, and they know Joe cannot run again, and Carmela is unelectable..

It could be much worse than simply USSC packing.

Maybe they want insurrection. They saw what they accomplished in MI and The Capital. They want to expand operations. They rightfully realize only a small percentage will actually rise against them, and can be quashed. The majority will sit at home in silent opposition, fuming. But they don't care what those toothless flyovers think or feel. They want to stir more support from their followers and believe it will offset their losses.

The only explanations for pi$$ing off "the Black vote" are: We won't need them, we think they will still fall in line, or a combination of the two.

The last election showed that they not only need them, but they lost some of their grip on them. Mostly because of loss of law and order. They can right that ship with military on the street replacing cops.

Tickerguy
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@Redjack - OSHA is constrained by their enabling legislation. They have no power to do this and they know it.

Yes, I know, they do not give a **** most of the time. Seen it. But that's a onesie-twosie thing. Try it on a mass-basis and they run into a buzzsaw.

My bet is that this never sees the effective date.


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Metalqueen
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Greeting TG!

Longtime lurker 1st time poster.

The following scenario is for theoretical purposes only 😁

The administrations latest actions may find the perpetrators and their families met with a "Manson Family" response. Remember, Charlie and his cuddly crew were trying to initiate Helter Skelter by intending to make it look like the murders were committed by the Black Panthers (Death To Pigs, ect.)

Since the focus is on White Supremacists by the Fibbies a group of the disfranchised after doing away with a culpable commissar and his next of kin might decorate the wall with "Anifa" and "BLM", albeit hopefully more competently than Manson's crew.

Let them sweat in fear of their own hired horde...
Theox
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The Federal Government could easily function with a 25% reduction in staff. That would actually be a good start.
Smacktle
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Has anybody else been having daydreams about doing bad things to bad people? I I can't stop running these scenarios through my mind over and over.

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Quik49
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I slept fine last night...knowing this implodes the moron.
There is a time to be on 24/7 alert...this aint it.

That does not imply head in the sand.

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Jules
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@Clyde
Maybe peruse these for ideas:
https://news.gab.com/category/free-speec....
https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/leg....
https://drleemerritt.com/uploads/Fightin....
The following from gab details each vaxxx source:
https://news.gab.com/wp-content/uploads/....
/hope that helps and best of success to your wife

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"We must overcome the fear; we must stare it down and power through it. We have no choice." - K. Denninger 4/3/20

"This is madness." - @Susanlauren 5/18/21
"You just eat it. It does not taste good. Whatever. Just eat it." - @Ann_Barnhardt
Optimus2861
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"Congress that can threaten to cut the money off simply by refusing to act; the need pass nothing to do that, just fail to pass."

You give Congress too much credit (though I know how much contempt you hold for them generally). The (D) House will fall in line and fund everything that needs funding. The (R) in the Senate will fold as they always do and blather on about the need to do things bipartisanly, or the need to keep the government running, or the need to blah blah blah.

Even when (R) hold the House, everything gets funded. The vast majority of Congresscritters are 100% bought and paid for by the same corrupt actors that installed the dementia patient in the WH. Party affiliation doesn't even matter, especially in the Senate.
Veeger
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I keep playing two scenarios around in my head:

1) - Biden (and Hunter and other Dems) dirty and paid off before election
- Election handed to Dems by Dominion/cheating
-Once in power, payment for favors must be made
-Destroy military (publicly via Afghanistan, privately via jab mandates/woke-ism
-Destroy economy and healthcare via virus mandates/max corruption
-Provoke disorder, call in UN, maybe even using Chinese 'UN' troops

Nah, too complex and fantastical.... (maybe)

2) They are just so plain arrogant and incompetent that they really don't know, understand or comprehend that in their quest to gain power, they destroy the value of that power when the country no longer remains the country that they thought they'd gain power and control over. (as Karl so rightly points out...)

Simpler. Ugly but simpler.

But having done all... I stand and will resist. Indeed, let them fire the first shot. Fools.
Shadowmask
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25% of the workforce won't leave because the stupid will stop before the trucks stop delivering food to blue hives. When the welfare set can't buy food, then burn entire neighborhoods down and even the dumbass evil ****s in charge don't want it spilling over into the suburbs where they live.
Redjack
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TG

I hope you are right.

But hope is not a plan.

Having had OSHA, USDA, FDA, EPA etc inspectors wander in to my plants at all hours of the day and night, I have learned they can do what ever they want.

So you distract them till the lawyers get there, and get read to pay. Had a violation once for something that was explicitly called out in our consent decree (as in we are doing X, Y, and Z with A, B and C) but the harpy that showed up didn't like it, so she said "I did not sign the decree, you will pay!"

And you know what? We did. Company fought it for a while, but at the end they were told to pay up because they did not want to "disparaged" if I remember the term right, an agent.

Again, we got fined for something EXPLICITLY allowed in the PERMIT.

Clyde
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This dictate had to come from the CDC and NIH and
FDA.
He's got dementia for god's sake.

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