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2021-09-10 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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..... did I think I'd hear a President of the United States all but declare war on 1/4 of the citizens of the nation.

Yet that is what Joe Biden did yesterday.

That was worse than stupid; it was inciting an all-on rebellion.


Within hours approaching half the States had declared vehement opposition.

In the fantasy land wild imaginations of some on the left everyone will fold.  Uh, nope.

First, Biden reportedly exempted The Post Office.  That alone was likely enough to get his attempt ruled against on an injunctive basis.  You obviously aren't serious about public health when one of the agencies that the public has contact with every day is exempt, it is an essential agency and has something like 600,000 employees.

Why did he exempt them?  Because they're a union shop and a large percentage have refused vaccination.  Biden knows this and he knows that if they walk or strike he's instantly ****ed, and they both can and might.  A later update said oh no, they're included.  We'll see.

But then during his presser he let the truth out: "We're going to protect vaccinated workers against unvaccinated workers."


If the vaccines are in fact vaccines and work then..... what protection do those who choose to get them need?  None!  But if they don't work -- if you get vaccinated and are still at risk then why would someone take one?  It's stupid to take a jab that doesn't actually protect you.  More to the point why would those who haven't been vaccinated not tell you to go straight to Hell, and why would any court uphold this sort of order when you admit that a person who accepts the vaccine is not protected -- that is, it does not actually provide protection against disease?

Then there's the other problem: A quarter of all Americans have had Covid-19 and are immune.  They have actual protection.  12x or more better than a jab and they already took the risk because they got infected.  A huge percentage of them were essential workers and took the risk over the first nine or so months of this thing while making sure you had medical care, your grocery store was stocked and your mail got delivered.

In doing this they got infected, some died, nearly all recovered and all of those who recovered are presumptively immune.  They have no reason whatsoever to put up with any of this bull**** and if they all walk their employer is ****ed instantly, no matter who that employer might be.

Incidentally while that percentage was 20% in May it's obviously higher now.  And among health-care workers that level of prior infection is especially high because they worked for mine months with no access to vaccines at all but were repeatedly, usually on a daily basis, exposed to infection -- frequently with inadequate PPE.

Take a hospital, for example.  If 25% of the nurses walk out the place is destroyed.  They are instantly both unable to provide care and out of compliance with regulatory mandates that carry the force of law.  If and when people die as a result they will get sued and be bankrupted.  There's no way to cover that manpower shortage; it's impossible.

Nobody is a slave in this nation folks.  With very few exceptions any employee can quit and any group of employees can strike.  The few exceptions (railroads and airlines) are protected from unilateral changes in working conditions without going through collective bargaining and the penalties for doing so outside of that process are criminal, not just fines.  Further, they're must prosecute crimes, not discretionary.  So no, the airlines cannot mandate anything if the unions, pilots and such say "nuts" either -- nor can the railroads!  The ability to unilaterally change working conditions was given up by them in exchange for strike protection.  Violate that and it's game on.

Declaring war on a quarter of the nation's population is not only stupid it's not enforceable without all of them eating a nation-ending upheaval -- and they know it.  What are you going to do?  Try to kill 80 million people?  Good luck.  Try to forcibly inject them?  When its a quarter of the population how do you do that and not get ambushed, never mind your families and homes while you're out on your jab patrol?  Try to starve people out?  Someone who has nothing to lose -- who you already declared dead when you did that -- suddenly has every single thing they might choose to do to you, and everyone you know and care about, never mind infrastructure and similar, become literally free.  Whether the left likes it or not you can't kill someone twice.  Again, those attempting to enforce this bull**** have to go to work and similar.  You can't be two places at once and they're short about 50 million cops for security purposes -- some 25x or more the cops they have.  Trying to put the mandate on employers is cute but that makes the problem 100x worse.  Not one corporate executive in a thousand, and zero middle managers, HR persons and similar have any effective security while at the same time you just created 80 million potential corporate saboteurs who may decide to act on their way out the door!

Oh, and as for all those federal law enforcement folks?  The union that represents 30,000 of them blasted this announcementWould you trust your security to those folks if you try to use force?

Let's say Biden and his minions succeed.  Whether through forced jabs or mass-murder, does it matter?  Nope.  Why would you work for an evil jackass beyond the bare minimum in the US after that event?  How long does a corporation survive with 20% of the workforce having every reason to **** them up to the maximum possible extent ?  Morale?  Ha!  Once that is destroyed you will never get it back.  Kill all 80 million whether economically or physically and suddenly there's 40 million unoccupied living units and both real estate prices and property tax receipts collapse.  The average operating margin of a corporation is such that whether you fire, murder or******off a quarter of the working population to the point they give you the finger all those firms go bankrupt and now all the commercial real estate plus the stock and bond markets are a smoking crater.  The cities go feral within weeks to months as nobody can be paid (will the cops and firefighters show up for their shift without a paycheck?) and their bond ratings all go to "D" (that's "default"), including said police and fire department.  Take 20% off any city or state budget on a forced basis and the gangs and illegal MI6 drug lords will own every single blue hive within weeks.  You think Portland or Minneapolis is bad now?  Ha!  That, times about five, is all of the blue cities.

So calm down folks.  This is going to get fought, and Biden will lose.  In fact, I suspect his handlers, whoever they are that put this asinine pile of dog squeeze together, intended that it lose.  They know damn well what the consequences are if they actually go to war on this issue whether they win or not.   The S&P 500 trades at 500 (if you're lucky) and your $500,000 house is worth $50,000 -- if it's not a smoking ruin.

Bottom line: He's full of bluster and bull**** and his handlers know it.  He probably doesn't because he's a demented old fool but those behind the scenes sure do.

You couldn't set up what he did more-clearly to fail than to exempt the Post Office.

Never mind Biden's chief of staff who admitted -- via retweet -- this is flagrantly illegal and the administration knows it.  Courts consider the intent behind policies and Klain publicly endorsed using OSHA as a "work around" to enact a flagrantly-illegal mandate.

So what was the goal?

That's simple: Given that map the USSC will be why it loses; diversity of the inbound lawsuits guarantees it.  They'll get the case on an emergency basis and will likely enjoin before anyone is forced to do anything as it's a loser for Biden.  He either loses in the Supreme Court or the Supreme Court destroys the economy, the markets and virtually every corporation in America.  The Supreme Court justices know this.  Biden's handlers know this too and after the CDC loss on the eviction moratorium they also have to fully expect this goes exactly nowhere with the make-up of the court.

But what's the wet dream of the left?

Packing the court.

They're crazy enough to risk a civil war to drum up more left-side support for it too.

Don't fall for it.

Make them shoot first, if that's really what they want.  They don't have the stomach for it and, more to the point, they know what happens if they set it off.

It's a bluff, a stupid bluff at that, and ultimately it ends this Administration either by expulsion or political neutering.

That's my prediction and I slept perfectly well last night.

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Love your analysis, Karl. Thanks for helping to calm me down today. I pray that you are right.
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Morning all. I hope you are correct. **** these people though. All of them.

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So far everything we have all said, they would not do, or go that far, not only have they done it, they have quadrupled down.

Don't let your guard down, these people are evil Satan worshipping miscreants, and are capable of anything, they have proven that over, and over.

They are currently erecting the fencing around the capital, timing, coincidence?

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**** just got interesting. Even if it fails spectacularly - which I expect - and they finally let Joe take the fall, how can they expect anyone will work with them on anything going forward? I wanted them to overstep, and by damn they more than doubled down on the stupid.


We're ****ed. Where's Henry Bowman Kyle Rittenhouse when you need him?
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@Frat - As I finished with, that's the problem with the corner they're in.

This is an administration-ending act. Declaring war on a quarter of the population is guaranteed to end that way, and for those who think they can pull something like this and still have an asset base which has driven all their "prosperity" for the last 30+ years -- nope. You actually try to enforce it and irrespective of whether that 25% rises up and kills your entire family line or not the entire asset base that is essential for all those issuing these mandates and every single person cheering them on turns into a smoking crater in the ground with said asset prices collapsing by 90% or more.

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I got very little sleep last night because of this news. The only sleep I got was courtesy of Doctor Whiskey. My family on both sides has written me off because I will not join the church of the cranial blood clot. I have been told I may not enter their home until jabbed. So be it, they are now dead to me. The only good thing that has come out of this fiasco is the knowledge that my families love and respect is predicated on jab status. I guess it never really existed at all.

Thank you Mr. Denninger for being the only voice of sanity in this cluster.
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Thanks, Karl. I woke up this morning, reflected on things a bit, and found I was in a pretty darned good mood. Reading this helped further. We may be fighting evil, but they sure as hell aren't evil geniuses. Keep up the good work.
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My daughter and I both got the Coof (as did my g/f) and we know who we got it from too. Presumably, given when we got it (first week of August), Delta.

We all lived and none of us went to the hospital. Of the three of us I got it the worst but I'm still here and still do my running miles. AFTER it I signed up for the Tetons Half Marathon -- yep. And as I've pointed out while I DID get it bad what I got in early January 2020 was objectively WORSE in terms of how badly it laid me out, and that was some variety of flu (likely H1N1.)

These people are idiots. Biden admitted ON TELEVISION that the vaccines don't work. His CHIEF OF STAFF admitted on social media that what he did is illegal. He's got a ZERO chance of this standing up to any honest review, and if the review is DISHONEST then he just declared WAR on 1/4 of the population. One way or another what he did ends his administration. It is either ejected, politically neutered or the nation burns and he has nothing. The first two are of course preferable but if he and his minions are stupid enough to actually START a shooting war then absolutely everything the blue hives and the left depend on collapses instantly.

It's a bluff and Biden putting on his Hitler hat was flat-out ****ing stupid.

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Consider the meaning if these actions were allowed to stand: No more than three people in our country could dictate what hundreds of millions of subjects must ingest in their bodies!

The king of Britain was far more generous than jackass Biden.

I look forward to full stadiums of football fans giving their salute to jackass Joe this weekend and every weekend.
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A key factor in the hospitals are the non professional services which are comprised of folks who are not taking the jab. Imagine trying to run a hospital when a quarter of your environmental services and food service staff walk. Hospitals are already very short staffed. Those that are enforcing the jab, near me, are seeing staffing shortages which in turn leads to the shortage of covered beds. Two nurses for five icu patients is critically dangerous.

I think your correct @tickerguy, this is bluster and may even end with the hyena becoming the next puppet in charge. This admin is done except for the kicking, screaming, and bed wetting.

Keep your heads up and carry on.
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Biden's remarks about getting the governors out of the way was not in the official released transcript. That's the danger when you have a figurehead who probably has to be drugged up to seem fairly normal in front of the camera. You can't even count on him reading the teleprompter without taking an excursion from the script. I imagine his handlers were screaming at the monitor - 'What the hell are you doing?' - when he went off. Everything I've seen says they aren't going to back down. Whenever they screw up the play has always been to double down. Bring it.
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So what was the goal?

The goal is to act like it's successful, to have it blasted far and wide over the dual medias (msm and social) that it's "working." As long as they act like it's working and ignore all the places it doesn't, the media will hold the bag for them and pretend too.

Pretending is all they need. They can point and call it a success anywhere it "works" and then you'll never hear about the places it doesn't. Some big union won't accept it? Well, then you won't hear about it.

That's all it takes for propaganda like this to succeed. That's why the vaccines are still being pushed to begin with. It's certainly not effectiveness, it's the propaganda.

Welcome to our new world. Propaganda is successful and the proof is all over the place. Expect it to be used more and more until we, as a people, make it stop.

It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.

Festina lente.

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The next time you ponder how the nazis managed to convince a bunch of good people to go along with them... Here's your sign. This is how. One step at a time, one lie at a time. One announcement at a time. One news article at a time.

Death of 1000 cuts.

It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.

Festina lente.
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I agree in principle, but, I put nothing past these fascist ghouls and there pandemic panic porn.


I actually want them to try it at this point.

I'd like to see a city or two burn and take out the nazi left leaning Karen's with it. They deserve nothing less than death, perhaps that and only that is what will stop this silliness once and for all.

If not, we end up with them trying these "Stalinist" tactics over and over and over till something / anything sticks.. and we do not need that.
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Bagbalm: I didn't listen - I was afraid to. I would love to have an answer to that question too though.

It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.

Festina lente.
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I have very little confidence in the US Supreme Count. It will be up to "We The People" to revolt and stop this dictatorship, If we don't! Mandates will be the norm. I think they don't care if all this destroys the nation. To some on the left that is their goal. This administration could care less about the rule of law. They know nothing will happen. I think they will push the boundaries to see how far they can control the people. They are already banning medicines that could help people get a head start on fighting covid. What's next? More people better "Wake Up" before it's to Late.
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The population of the Union was 18.5 million. In the Confederacy, the population was listed as 5.5 million free and 3.5 million enslaved.

Could they declare war on 1/4 of the population? They did on 1/3rd the last time.

Still, that war only destroyed the economy of the South, while creating a permanent national debt for the North and the reabsorbed South. What keeps the Feds in power is the ability to print dollars to absorb resources from the untaxable poor in the USA and from the rest of the world. The upper middle class has gone along because of the asset inflation, often mocking the working and now lower middle class.

Destroy the ability to pump dollars and you pop the asset bubble. Those hundreds of thousands in the 401k go bye-bye. The UMC is humbled, too: maybe that's what it will take to stop this.

If so, bring it on. Supreme Court, let the mandates roll.
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Excellent Ticker! Most important line in the whole thing:
Make them shoot first, if that's really what they want. They don't have the stomach for it and, more to the point, they know what happens if they set it off.

My departed friend Mike Vanderboegh used to get so much heat for this stance, he called it "no Fort Sumpters", that it literally tore his 3 percenter movement apart.

We MUST make peace with the idea, folks, that perhaps God's chosen role in all this for you isn't heroic guerrilla fighter but is instead martyr.
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I can't watch this blithering malicious jackass speak so I read the transcript after work.

And laughed and laughed and laughed.

They did it, they finally finally did it.

Biden and his handlers managed to do the impossible - actually******off and unite at least half the country against them on an issue that transcends politics - the right to control your own body and make medical decisions.

My email was flooded with various versions of NFWIH from people I know from all sides of the jab debate.

These DC slimes cannot be that clueless, can they? Surely they know they cannot enforce this. Did Pelosi & Schumer sign off on this?

The ???? I have is what is their Plan B to force compliance?
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Thank you for watching the demented old fool and following up with this gem. I couldn't stomach listening to him, so I read about the things he said. The most disturbing was this blatant attempt to divide the country and start a civil war:

"To the vaccinated we understand your anger at the unvaccinated," and that "our patience is wearing thin" for those yet to take the jab.

It is this kind of invective that foments war. Look back in history at how the evil despots got started. They always began with attempts to divide the people and pit them against each other with lies. I'm afraid many of the vaccinated don't see it this way because they have been brainwashed. If SLOW JOE can get away with this, he can get away with anything. Too fat - no sugar for you. Too old - off to the glue factory. Disabled or unborn - better to be dead. Christian - to the lion's den. Jewish - get in the boxcars.

I have a high demand skillset in a field that is begging for people. My position as I look for a job is that I will not mask, vaccinate, travel or engage in any covid hysteria. If my potential new employer can't handle that, then they will not benefit from my labor. I don't care if it means I don't get hired. I will not support a corrupt and evil state, run by an "emperor with no clothes" with my tax money. I'll find a way to live on my savings and watch the country destroy itself.

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Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting.
Peres: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.

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@Blackcrow -- There isn't one, and it won't happen.

The threat is all they have, and the price they will pay for another 5% is the entire administration coming down around their ears.

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Anyone member here from Maryland want to take a guess which side Lockdown Larry is going to take? He's been bragging about how high the vax rate is in MD so I bet he's going to double down again.

@Handyone55 - hang in there friend.
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Didn't get much sleep myself last night. I'm like you, I've been cast out by every single person I know, including 30+ year friendships. That happened before jabs even existed - even scepticism was forbidden among people I know. Good to know that these relationships were a figment of my imagination as I move forward.

I follow only a very selective few online for information, with MT at the top of the list. It's impossible to deal with the Covidians. They just dogpile you if you try to have a rational discussion, so I try to stay on sites that share my perspective to avoid being abused and insulted.

I'm in the UK right now but I'm an American citizen. I appreciate KD providing the rebellion map. I'm planning a move back to the US in the not-too-distant future, and it's nice to see which states to consider in bright red.
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When your enemy give you such a perfect opening to take out their center and collapse their flanks, it is only natural to wonder just what the **** have they got in reserves.

I am working on the assumption that Chaos is Job Won.
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