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Stof
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Incept: 2011-10-17

Ohio
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Oh boy. Biden is really going for the gusto.
How many people will just comply before the courts make a decision?
Terrible time in our country.
Darqfybr
Posts: 17
Incept: 2021-07-10

Commiefornia
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My brother is USAF and just got word today that he needs to take !vax by tomorrow!

Thoughts on religious exemption?
Sonoran_monk
Posts: 71
Incept: 2021-08-16

Between a saguaro and an arroyo.
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How did congress authorize it without compensation for the property owners?
Wifi
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Biden to announce vaccine mandate for companies with more than 100 employees
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President Joe Biden is announcing Thursday that all employers with more than 100 workers will be forced to require coronavirus vaccinations or test employees weekly.

The mandate will be announced Thursday afternoon and is expected to affect as many as 100 million Americans.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-s....

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"Freedom cannot end where fear begins."
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Traelin0
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Incept: 2021-01-28

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Tickerguy wrote..
Note: These people are insane but not stupid. They know what happens if ANY material percentage of the nation tells them to **** off. Ignore the social-media screamers; they mean nothing.

I'm probably in the minority on this, but this is the problem I have with Stuart Scheller's approach to everything. His first video was fantastic. Demand accountability. His second video up to the part about resigning effective immediately was also great.

But if folks have been following him on LinkedIn and now Telegram, it's obvious to me that he's jockeying for a political office. Especially when he was telling folks to "follow him". Follow him where? To that ****hole in DC? Sorry, I packed my bags permanently in 2009 from NOVA. I saw the writing on the wall.

I feel like he was in the military for so long that he forgot what the real world is all about. We paid for those pensions. We paid for those wars with money I could've used to tend to my children.

I ain't following anyone. I've done quite fine following my own gut.
Chaparral
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Los Angeles
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^if the lanyard is elastic, you will have difficulty. I have this cool thing the LAPD used to use back in the 80s however, that is very effective. No special equipment needed other than two functioning arms and hands.
Chemdude
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https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/....

"Ineffective neutralization of the SARS-CoV-2 Mu variant by convalescent and vaccine sera"

I wonder whether this will be utilized to try to suggest vaccination vs natural immunity IF a new vaccine is manufactured to a more recent spike variant. Ironically, it looks like they only utilized a lentiviral vector to express the spike protein: i.e. not the full virus... and thus... not a sufficient
(I believe this to be the case but may be wrong as I've never designed nor did I pull up the plasmids and recreate the putatively expressed viral sequences) means of stating inefficacy of convalescent sera from COVID-19-recovered patients against the "Mu" variant. All that can be said is that said convalescent sera have antibodies that have lost affinity for the Mu spike variant. Perhaps they should have titled this "Ineffective neutralization of the SARS-CoV-2 Mu variant spike protein by convalescent and vaccine sera." Perhaps these shortcomings will be rectified in peer review. One could only hope.
Dingleberry
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@ Kochevnik

My sentiments exactly....the fed employees have watched their RE and stocks explode, and many can retire or quit tomorrow. Wonder how the DoD will handle this since they downsized everything they could to civilians and contractors over the years. Wonder if the CDC will give the jab acceptance rates for their public "servants". Last I heard Pfizer was not mandating the jab either.

And all those blacks who elected for "if you don't vote for a democrat you ain't black" Biden......think they learned anything?

Should be an interesting winter.
Olddad
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Incept: 2019-08-22

Inman
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Update: After reading pages 5 - 6, I can see there is a use for filing an exemption, that being to buy time in the "hope" that a **** ton of people die before you get canned and everyone does an about face on the mandates.

That said, two thoughts:

1. Hope is not a strategy

2. What a ****ed world we live in where hoping people die so you can keep your job is actually the smart play

**** me, is it beer-thirty yet?
Maddmaxx
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Incept: 2021-05-31

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Away from mandates for a second. Another good post from IM Doc. Wish this guy was heading up our public health policies:

"IM Doc
September 9, 2021 at 12:41 pm
Three big differences. And remember the smallpox vaccine in 1905 was still in the Wild Wild West of pharmaceuticals long before the FDA and CDC were even thought of. Read HG Wells TONO BUNGAY or Sinclair Lewis ARROWSMITH.

1) The vaccine for smallpox had been around for decades. The side effects and complications were well known by all providers and health authorities and the safety concerns were easily handled because of the familiarity. This is not the case with the COVID vaccines even now. I have just had yet another patient develop a DVT and seek treatment on TUE of this week after having his 2nd Moderna last week. Related? Who knows? we have no idea what the exact safety issues are with these vaccines. We have educated guesses but my personal experience so far with the CDC and VAERS and FDA have been they are trying to do all they can to minimize problems. I have very little faith in the validity of our current safety knowledge.

2) Smallpox is absolutely orders of magnitude more lethal than COVID. Smallpox outbreaks were just horrific in their death and morbidity counts back in the day. Despite all the panic porn, COVID remains a much different level of threat by orders of magnitude.

3) The vaccinations for smallpox were absolutely sterilizing it ended with the person that minute. That is most definitely not the case with COVID vaccines there is individual benefit ( how long that will last who knows?) but the public health herd benefit with these vaccines is very nebulous right now and they may actually cause much more harm than benefit as we go along. We will see. There is also increasing evidence that at least some of the mutation pressure is happening in the vaccinated. This was NOT the case in smallpox vaccines and never was.

The difference between the two is overwhelming. It is easy to see for anyone with a background in vaccinology or infectious disease. We are however not listening to these experts instead we are listening to Big Pharma and media and political shills with their own agendas that have nothing whatsoever to do with public health."
Drifter
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King county data-- demographics show nobody under 50 is dying.

The rest of their numbers, imo, are bogus. The county throws people that are partially vaxxed in the unvaxxed category, when it should be in the fully vaxxed numbers. Why? Because the first shot can leave you more susceptible to covid-- those patients died in treatment.

Essentially, the numbers in the denominator are bull****.



Zappafan
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Incept: 2007-11-30

Atlanta
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Go long lawyers. Maybe they plan to clog up the courts with so many suits that they can't function.

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The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue ... At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they'll just take down the scenery, they'll pull back the curtains, they 'll move the tables & chairs out of the way & you'll see the brick wall at the back of the theater
Andyk
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Incept: 2008-09-21

Indiana
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@crabbucket:

Don't be so sure being retired will save you from a jab mandate.
I expect Biden either today or later this year will require all Social Security and Medicare recipients to be vaxxed in order to receive benefits.

I'm 64, retired, unvaxxed. I could live without SS but I don't see how I could live without Medicare. Sooner or later I'll get sick and be forced to either take the vax, or risk having my life savings wiped out by a large medical bill.
Reformedhippy
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Incept: 2020-07-01

Rural, OK
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@Microbesrus, there absolutely is a movement among healthcare workers here in Oklahoma, even if representation may not be visible or prevalent where you work specifically.

Look up OKHPR - Oklahomans for Health and Parental Rights. Their membership numbers have exploded over the past three months. They had a town hall at Fairview Baptist Church on July 22nd specifically to address employee mandates and support of health care workers - 1000 people showed up. You can see that town hall on the church's website archive.

I hope that you and all the other Oklahomans that read and post here, @Purplefang, @Nickdanger, @Merlin, @Bonanza, and apologies to anyone I missed - please support this organization and stand up for and with those in our state who are standing up.

I hope there are similar organizations in other states that are being supported and promoted.
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Disgusted
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Incept: 2021-07-20

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Supreme court is going to have to get involved in this ****. The Nazi Xiden Administration are off their ****ing meds.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bide....

The question no one can answer, is 75 days enough time for the whole scheme to come undone when enough vaxxed start getting it in the ASS hard?

Just finished watching that lying cock sucker. Get ****ed you demented old POS trash maggot.

Rrasmuss
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Incept: 2007-12-22

HHH WA
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@Tsherry
Your friends are the Thuggee and their weapon the Rumal

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Tickerguy
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@Andyk - Again, he cannot do that without an act of Congress either.

Now Congress COULD do it, but they won't. They'll get lynched.

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Quik49
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and how long until

"Biden to announce vaccine mandate for companies with more than 100 employees"
becomes
"Biden to announce vaccine mandate for companies with more than 50 employees"
becomes
"Biden to announce vaccine mandate for companies with more than 10 employees"
becomes
"Biden to announce vaccine mandate for companies with more than 1employee"

yeah...as in 2 weeks to flatten the curve. If you think this **** stops at 100 (I know I know act of congress and all) yer nuts.




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Quik49
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"Now Congress COULD do it, but they won't. They'll get lynched."

smiley

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Keep pushing ****ers, you'll find the trip wire eventually
Txdg00
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Incept: 2020-08-10

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Why isn't Biden wearing a mask right now?
Wifi
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**** THESE Nazi communist bastards.


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Growgardens
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Incept: 2021-05-09

Southern California
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First time commenting, this has to go down as one of the darkest speeches ever by a president. It is caulk full of lies, deception and propaganda. Terms like "unvaccinated: repeated many times over and "pandemic of the unvaccinated".

Also trying to steer anger toward the unvaccinated to the audience. This is a turning point indeed. Winter will be very dark may God be with you all.
Abelardlindsey
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Incept: 2021-03-26

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Can OSHA use an Emergency Temporary Standard to mandate the vaccines or testing for employers?

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No liability, No mandates
Superdude
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I honestly thought he was going to say he was going to exempt black people.
Indianarube
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NW Indiana
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