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Wakeupcall
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My husband is fricking pissed off right now. I dont think I have ever seen him this mad. He is a government contractor. I guess we will see when the EO is mandated and that will be his last day. We are in a good position. We have his pension. Not debt other than Toyota we bought a few months ago. Will probably see what the resale value is. Heck, if there is still a chip shortage, we might even be able to return to dealership with little to no loss. Will start looking into unemployment and snap and whatever other bennies are available. Nice 60th birthday present for him.

I am more upset at the possibility my kids will be forced to get jabs or lose their jobs. Its how they are paying for college.

And any business that mandates the vax, I am totally boycotting for the rest of my life. No way in hell I will buy groceries from a store that fires my son for being unvaxxed.

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@Blanca this country has been destroying itself for at least a quarter century. Or, maybe more accurately, the big parasitic groups have been looting and hollowing it out for a generation or two. Some form of collapse is baked in the cake.
Traelin0
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Seektruth wrote..
IMHO there won't be any widespread work strike. And even if enough people had the balls, Biden and his handlers wouldn't care one bit if people were dying due to hospitals having to shut down. They'll use that 'crisis' to further demonize anybody that goes against the narrative...they're *looking* for excuses to usurp more power and they don't give one **** about laws, Constitution, or human rights.

And if they make it to the other side, they'll have to come to grips with the "first being last, and the last being first." I never understood that truism until recently. The salt of the Earth - plumbers, handymen, farmers, well drillers, water sanitation engineers, septic system pumpers - these are the folks who shall inherit the Earth.

What good is a neurosurgeon if you have no food to eat or clean water to drink? How about a hospital administrator? In economic terms, Western society is so grossly out of balance with nature - with the Second Law of Thermodynamics - that the division of labor is axiomatically bound to become more simplistic. More basic.

Even a lot of the "survivalist" folks have no clue what is going on. The guy who's going to be installing my windmill told me a little tidbit of useful information. He used to drill wells and install infra for folks putting in bunkers and redoubts throughout my home state. I smiled and told him they're just future casualties with a little more hardening. He nodded and said "You have no idea."

Folks like Bill Gates actually think you can get away with this ****. Nope. The chickens always come home to roost, especially in cyclical social crises like ours. He's reliant upon umpteen staff members, deliverymen, etc. Once Americans realize they can make the choice to be free again, and work together to build something resilient and sustainable, then everything will turn on a dime.

And for those who continue to resist the Six Sigma "Pioneers" who are 20% of the populace, they'll find themselves serving the soup in the makeshift kitchen - regardless of who they were in the "Old Normal".

BUT - the longer this drags out, the less Normie folks those Pioneers can help. It's that simple.

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Smacktle
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Am I the only one that won't miss united airlines?

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Get ready for PPP loan Round 3!
Money for EVERYONE.
Masks mailed to each house, thanks of Uncle Sam!
Covid Camps!

Edwardteach
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What percentage of the population has natural immunity not to due infection, just innate?


Various observations put the figure at around 80%. That's the percentage of the population that possesses heterologous immunity.
Now that doesn't mean you won't get infected, but what it does mean is that your body will beat it back rather promptly and you'll likely experience mild to zero symptoms.

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Patentleathershoes
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I wonder by when the federal workforce and federal contractors must be vaccinated.

It better be quick because otherwise he won't be able to fudge the numbers this winter if we do get a VEI type of situation.

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Kochevnik
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In a way - Biden's announcement will be a huge plus to those of us who believe in freedom and liberty - some percentage of fed workers will quit or retire immediately and since most of those who are against the NotVax are people who think and research for themselves, made hard decisions for themselves - a lot of those walking out the door will be in the 20 percent who actually do REAL work. In the same vein, more contractors will walk from the job than regular workers - I worked at a nuke site as a contractor a couple of times and had this Nazi order come down, I'd be out the door. And I wouldn't ever be coming back.

Biden could not have crippled the federal workforce any more than if he set out to do it deliberately.

And if some significant percent walks off the job it will have ripple effects down the already semi-destroyed supply chain. Imagine no inspectors to sign off anything coming in or going out of the USA. No DOT inspectors.

The $64k question IS - WHAT PERCENTAGE of people are going to place their health above their paycheck ?

Doing this in October in the midst of the biggest Everything Bubble of all time ?

Genius.

Tickerguy
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This will detonate his administration and it will likely detonate the entire Democrat party.

Not immediately, but certainly. Why? Because WHEN (not if) those who took the jabs get ****ed in size, and the evidence is that is happening NOW and will continue as we go into fall and winter (which is virus season, of course) those who were ardent supporters and "went alone" will start winding up in the hospital -- and in a box.

All of these people will know someone who was a friend or family member, FULLY VACCIANTED, who gets ****ed. At that point the administration is FINISHED. So are a LOT of employers. Both will be lucky if it's just a political and "out of business" problem -- it only takes 0.1% of a sample of 200 million to decide that this isn't going to be political, it's going to be PERSONAL, and the policy written by the 100 Heads Insurance Company will get cashiered.

Who knows if it goes there, but it very well might and if it does -- well -- Biden and his pals all deserve it.

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Jal
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Rejoice
Survivors will be those with immunity.
Rejoice.
Dallas_dave
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It's bad when you have to HOPE awful things happen to other people. Family isn't vaxxed and won't be, but awful things happening to those who have been may be the only way out of this.
Jdough
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Saw it posted somewhere else that over 50% of the shipbuilding crews at the naval shipyards are unvaccinated. Anecdotal, sure, but as Kochevnik said I highly suspect that a good percentage of the people who don't want the vax are in the 20% part of the pareto principal when it comes to work ouput. I have less faith in the younger generation though, what this could actually accomplish is a purge of dissidents from the government. What comes after young ideologues taking over government is pretty frightening.

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RE: questioning our own reality/narrative

Well, I think it is natural for all thinking people to not only self-reflect, but to look at multiple sides of situations. Karl, I would expect you, of all people, to look at everything so far and ask yourself "But what if I'm wrong?", simply because you tend to be brutally honest, which I would see you turning on yourself as well. Hell, I have at many times - usually after being exposed to the bull**** narrative by the mass media - wondered too "What if I've been wrong this whole time?" It's natural, and the propaganda has been that good. Then I turn around and look at all the lies, coercion, and what the **** is actually HAPPENING rather that the way it is being portrayed, and I figuratively smack myself for the self-doubt and go on with life.

Questioning your own world views is a GOOD thing, because yes, we all can be wrong. Try getting that admission from a true believer of the Cult of Covid... It ain't happening.

As for Fuhrer Biden's latest mandates - MEH. Come on you pussy, you can tyrant harder than that! Come on lil guy, let's see what you can do!

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Jal
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I forgot to add ....
All the politicians, that you don't like, got 2jabs and want 3jabs
Rejoice
Survivors will be those with immunity.
Rejoice.
We don't need to do anything. The jab will do the flushing of the undesirable.
Mikeyjm2
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My employer has not indicated they will mandate any jabs at large. They defacto coerced some (who travel internationally) into taking it to avoid lengthy quarantines in other countries, but fortunately I am not in that category. If I was I would already be gone. If they do push a mandate I am prepared to leave and coast along on savings for as long as I can, assuming a new position without mandate doesn't present itself to me.
Rporth
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@Wakeupcall on your hubs... just wait it out. if you quit there is no unemployment. If you are fired there is no unemployment either (from what I understand).

Best to stay and see what the individual employer requires... *THEN* do nothing, and MAKE. THEM. FIRE. YOU.

As more and more evidence mounts, you potentially have a case to go back and sue on grounds - potentially.

If you quit, then that's simply your choice...
Asimov
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It still creeped into my mind and I had to consciously beat it back.


I can deal with that fear for myself, but I find I'm now giving advice for a number of people I care for immensely. Trusting my judgement over the public narrative is *HARD* ... very hard.

It's insidious.

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Tappedout
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About 60% of Black Americans are unvaccinated.

About 20% of the Federal work force are Black. About 23% of the USPS.

The US military is comprised of Black Americans higher than their percentage represented in the population.

How's recruiting going?

This is the trip wire, although the detonation may be delayed/extended over time, and also set off chain reactions.
Microbesrus
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@Tickerguy

A few thoughts that come to mind. Last year I recall admitting several patients with a positive viral nasal swab for OC43. They mostly present like RSV bronchiolitis patients. Or they will be dehydrated from v/d. Or a combination. Anyways this virus usually makes a showing in our department. However, most of our staff has a N95 strapped to their face at damn near all times. Look up envo mask. Granted many staff have kids of their own that may bring it home to them.

That said, I think you would need an almost near total kill off before anyone questioned the narrative. They are much more likely to just blame the unvaccinated than some sort of vaccine enhancement.

I know there are some of us (myself included to a degree) who would like to say "I told you so." Perhaps that day is coming. However if it affects the vaxed, will it matter? They will be dead or damaged and I still don't believe they will concede. This is a different lifeform we are dealing with. They are relentless. They are pod people.

Finally, and this is only my impression, but I feel the people who are likely to strike are also the ones who dependent on steady wages. Now if someone wants to start a movement and back these people with stipends then maybe, but to rely on the uncertain prospect of "unemployment" seems very precarious. Ultimately we need to create infrastructure so these people can walk out and then walk into something else.

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Packetcap
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@Jdough:

The younger generation working at coffee shops, diversity departments, etc, will just have to starve. They are useless. The ideology is already overtaking government, that's why we are where we are.
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This will detonate his administration and it will likely detonate the entire Democrat party.


One can only hope.

In any case, based on Vox Day's update, I looked at the DoD's website with regards to contractors. This is from one hour ago:

https://www.acc.af.mil/News/Article-Disp....

Apparently the vax mandate applies to contractors who access DoD facilities. The tow companies I work for/with that do DoD contracting build equipment in house for DoD. Thus, no one at either of my two companies goes anywhere near a DoD facility. Since I personally don't do any DoD work (and am actually not allowed in the part of the building that does do DoD work for security reasons), I will likely be untouched by any of these mandates.

Mandates on the part of the companies I work for are unlikely as both of them are looking for industrial automation engineers and are having a hard time finding them. One of my companies has decided to train a tech from the inside to do this work. The problem is that the rest of the team is so busy with projects that we do not have time to train anyone.

For those of you who are touched by these mandates, as Karl says, its time for the strike.



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Frat
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It would be interesting to see my employer mandating the vaxes; I have been out - in public - every day since this bull**** started, and yes that absolutely included the original "15 days to slow the spread." Gee, being deemed "essential" just meant expendable, but there you go.

I have ignored every email mentioning being vaxed, getting vaxed, or about the vaccine from my employer. I will continue to do so. My (relatively new) boss is a decent guy and open-minded, but if/when they make him ask, I will - politely - tell him my personal health decisions are my own, especially since I do not currently use the company healthcare.

Please - mandate everything - and let's get this show on the road. My last **** has died, blown on the wind through my most-fallow **** field. I WANT them to overstep; god how I want that.

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Abelardlindsey
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About 60% of Black Americans are unvaccinated.


One word: Tuskegee.

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Then there is this POS cock gobbler, who the **** believes anything these bastards say?


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Tickerguy
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@Abelardlindsey - That's ridiculously funny.

I've done some DOD work (and some fairly serious stuff too) but never set foot in one of their facilities while doing so. If this policy was "back then" it thus wouldn't impact me, and I'd laugh my ass off at Biden for thinking it meant anything.

Oh, the truck driver who brought the <frobozz> from the DOD facility to where I worked, well, yeah, he gets a mandate. What if he says "**** you" and quits? Well, I guess I don't have <frobozz> to work on, do I?

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