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Susanlauren
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About the influenza vaccine (aka the flu shot). I am not a doctor and I do not play one on TV. For myself, there is no way in hell I would get one now. Who knows what is in that shot. I will err on the side of caution given the tsunami of lies and dishonesty coming out of state and local public health agencies and the medical profession. Anyway, if I come down with the flu, I plan to treat myself as a fine thoroughbred horse. This is not medical advice and these idiots have set back legitimate public health credibility/ trust by decades.
Tickerguy
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Yep.

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Maddmaxx
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@Mikeyinfl I believe one of Malone's tweets yesterday said he was traveling. Sounds like Berenson is going to sue Twitter. Really wish he hadn't got kicked off, he was reaching people.
Traelin0
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Cheetah9 wrote..
Considering all the ****ery these last 19 months, I wouldn't put it past them to spike it with deathstab juice.

Yup. Sadly I've been saying for the past 2 years to my wife and father that this is how Dark ages are born. There's simply no way to put Humpty Dumpty back together again once confidence is lost in the institutions that bind a civilization together. Not in a republic. There are a lot of things Machiavelli may have been wrong about, but in this regard, he was dead-on accurate.
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Susanlauren wrote..
About the influenza vaccine (aka the flu shot). I am not a doctor and I do not play one on TV. For myself, there is no way in hell I would get one now. Who knows what is in that shot./quote]
Ergo why I asked my wife the other night if our youngest is up to date on all of her vaccines. Thankfully she is.

I'm paranoid to even get a tetanus shot at this point, and thankfully I won't need one for 3 more years.
Little_eddie
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Yes, NO SHOTS OF ANY TYPE smiley

I'm going to have my annual blood work done, but that's the only needle.

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Daedwards
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Hey - there is no more flu, remember, so no need for the flu shot! (is /sarc even needed?). I agree with @Susanlauren that there is no way in hell I will get one ever again.
Speaking of "other" viruses being activated by the clot shot - a friend of mine (vaxxed back in March/April) came down with shingles in June, and I had spent several days with her just before that. She called and told me about it, so I got the Shingles shot (first one end of June, second one last week). I had chicken pox as a kid so the chances of me getting shingles now (yes I'm 60) seemed to be pretty high.
Got my TDaP booster at the same time, so it was interesting to follow all the comments here last week when that came up. I've been pretty good about getting the booster every 10 years, but will rethink it next time due to the comments here.
This forum remains my number 1 place for getting REAL no-bull**** info, and I thank you once again for that.
Nickdanger
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@Oliver1655,

Thank you for the link to the Clif High video. I had not come across him before, and he is very interesting, and presents some different information than what I have been seeing recently. I'll have to look up some of the other interviews he has done.

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Jc3
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@Inspectrcalahan I had stumbled across similar "we don't know what it is" and there seems to be some research about possible damage to an immune system regulator involving the FoxO and other research showing damage to telomere length(length is age-predicing and shortening or folks with short telomeres seem to get more severe covid). A couple of links below found late at night while tired so I've not had time to study them. The telomere-shortening(aging of folks) mentioned in one could explain why my 67 year old sister, 2 years older than me, now looks and acts like she is 85 a few months after the J&J vax(+vax-induced leg bloodclots + Warp-Speeded to alzheimers).

FoxO:
Exploring the therapeutic potential of forkhead box O for outfoxing COVID-19
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article....
Pathological alteration of FoxO3a activity promotes idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis fibroblast proliferation on type i collagen matrix
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article....

Telomere's:
EVIDENCE FOR BIOLOGICAL AGE ACCELERATION AND TELOMERE SHORTENING IN COVID19 SURVIVORS
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/....

Now it's been know for a short while that increasing NAD+ helps telomeres. So look for supplements that claim to do this OR actually do this to be hunted down, demonized, and deleted...like NAC, IVM, and other items not in the CDChowToEliminatePeople Protocols. NIH even knows/suspects NAD+ is helpful.
https://www.biospace.com/article/release....
Abelardlindsey
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You want to extend telomeres?

For your reading pleasure: https://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/10....

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Lemonaid
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Interesting. The single most reliable genetic predictor of long life are double 'G' alleles for Fox03.

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College son just called. Friends are popping positive for corona, some tested some sick and haven't been tested yet. He is unvaxxed and is on a religious exemption.

I sent up Ivermectin paste, Quercetin, zinc, Bueodcide(sp?) inhaler, zinc, vitamin C and D on his return trip for senior year.

He just took a dose of Ivermectin (horse paste). He had covid last February, said he was in bed for 4 days lost taste and smell. Praying for antibodies.

I told him in 72 hours to take the second dose. We are talking again in the morning.

Anything else he should do? ****

I told him this is a generational shift, and millions are going to die. I get the Mom Pllleeeaaasseeee. . . .

Heartlander
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Georgi

RE: What can we do:

Submit a comment to FDA re: the proposed approval of Pfizer's "boosters."

The bastards truncated the public comment period, so we only have a few days to get our comments in. Let's snow them with so many, they'll think it's a blizzard.

Needless to say, to create a blizzard, we need to forward this to everyone we know.

https://www.federalregister.gov/document....
Frieza
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@Tritumi
There was some talk a few months ago about a combined flu/COVID shot, but I haven't heard anything since.
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-....

The flu shot is basically a scam anyway. Nevermind that we just had an incident of contaminated Moderna vaccines found in Japan. Not a good time to trust big pharma, or the regulatory process, or physicians, or...anybody, really.
Heartlander
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@Kareninca

Ann Barnhardt has been on this for months, that if ivermectin were widely used, it would basically mean the end of the huge market in cold and flu remedies.

I started on the FLCCC's ivermectin prophylactic dosing last Christmas, and not only have I not gotten Covid, but I have not even gotten any colds in all that time. Also: I've been prone to cold sores (fever blisters, which are caused by the herpes simplex virus) all my adult life. Twice in the last eight months, I have had a cold sore break out -- but I simply took ivermectin two days in a row, and both times, it cleared up immediately. I have been getting cold sores for 46 years, and in all that time, I had NEVER cleared one up in only two days. It's always been ten to fourteen days. Remarkable!
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Beignet: He's safer for having already had it than anything else you could do right now. Be happy, he's almost certainly safe.

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Dissenter
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Kid brother went to those links from VOX and pulled down the csv file...here is what he sent me back...
Inline
Kickthecan
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@Beignet

Have your son take an antibody test. Even if it's negative, shouldn't be anything to worry about. If a college age person was sick in bed with Covid for 4 days, almost guaranteed he has strong immunity and will not get sick again.

Shado
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For those on here who want more details on how the biology and the immune system works, check out Jonathan Couey, (Gigaohm biological)

https://m.twitch.tv/videos/1143033464

Many of his streams are somewhat repetitive, but some great info from a biologist who gets it and has been cancelled trying to get the word out.
Dissenter
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Having a hard time posting my screen capture pic apparently but that post from vox--down loading the source csv out of Israel for that data he had is very interesting--gots August and 3rd shot case numbers. Wow. Maybe its late and I'm just too drunk to read it right.
Susanlauren
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@Beignet
Check the FLCCC protocols. I think you are missing Aspirin, Melatonin and Famotide (generic for Pepcid) from your list. Front Line doctors has dosages and detailed information.
Heartlander
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@Jstr

Reiner Fuellmich's German Coronavirus Investigative Committee is preparing its legal case against Drosten for fraud re: his bull**** PCR test. And since it is ONLY the false positives from that fraudulent test that produced such worldwide panic resulting in business failures, broken families, traumatized children, suicides, etc., they hope to eventually put him on trial for crimes against humanity.

Are you telling me that this criminal monster is actually STILL respected in Germany? I hope I have misunderstood you.
Maddmaxx
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Another good post from IM Doc:

IM Doc
September 8, 2021 at 2:52 pm
About the deSantis article above and his stance on the current COVID vaccines

Its about your health and whether you want that protection or not. It really doesnt impact me or anyone else.

I am not sure that there could be a more fitting epitaph for this entire fiasco.

And it is the same false reasoning on both sides.

This is the exact way that most people think about vaccines even today I am having this discussion over and over again with patients. I am vaccinated. Therefore, I will not have the virus, I cannot get sick and I cannot spread the contagion.

And the reason this is in their minds this way is because this is true of most every other vaccine there is. But this is most definitely not true with non-sterilizing vaccines.

We have placed into our world a non-sterilizing vaccine which is completely different than what people are accustomed to. For public health and safety, Plan B must be initiated yet no such plans are even on the horizon. Plan A of total freedom from infection and spread is not only unworkable it is actually quite dangerous.

We have one third of our our society who feel that they are vaccinated and protected and who cares if others are not.

While the other third is cudgeling everyone else with vaccine mandates and passports with zero evidence that any such thing will work in an environment created by a non-sterilizing vaccine. But what does work are all the bang-on effects of social and economic meltdown. No benefit provided, but all the ongoing damage is happening and encouraged.

And then all the deplorable unvaccinated who threw up their hands long ago most of him have very legitimate concerns about the vaccines and absolutely no one addressing them. Instead, a constant barrage of belittling, health-care shaming, moral superiority condescending and now outright lying directed their way.

All the while, no one is pressing hard on Plan B consisting of masks, ventilation, vigorous testing, vigorous quarantine and so many other measures that are sorely needed right now. No one is having any kind of serious discussion with the people about life style changes and risk factor modification. No one.

"And the PCPs of America are stuck in the big middle of this morass, patients getting madder by the day, with no guidance whatsoever. The big topic of the past 2 weeks has been boosters coming up almost every visit. Not an official peep out of our health authorities for guidance. Just a mishmash of contradictions and off the wall talk.

I never dreamed such a hellscape would ever happen in this country. It is truly incredible."

I have been saying for months that the pro-vaxx operation/approach is working so well because so many people are by default conceiving of these vaccines as the MMR or similar vaccines and have taken no time whatsoever to research and discern that they are not. Then, having committed to a view, they remain with the narrative as the goal posts continue to be moved.
Maddmaxx
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I should've read further. Another good one from IM Doc:

"IM Doc
September 8, 2021 at 5:06 pm
Please be careful

About 10 days ago I had to admit 2 members of a swing dancing band to the hospital. It was part of a larger superspreader event. Everyone in attendance had to show proof of vaccination I understand about 80 were there and yet we had 14 vaccinated breakthroughs from that event with 2 of them the band members having to be admitted. So far everyone is OK. But those 2 and 2 of the others got really really sick.

It was in a large ballroom. Lots of singing, drinking, instrument playing, and dancing. Masks were not required because they were all vaccinated. They all thought they were good because there was a vaccine mandate for entrance. They thought wrong.

Please be careful and take care of yourself."
Aerius
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@Jstr

When Pfizer was doing the early dosing trials, they went with 10, 30, and 100mcg doses and found that antibody levels topped out after 30mcg. They basically maxed it out and called it good.

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/covi....
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