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Dingleberry
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Repubs want cheap labor, so do a lot of Dems.

Dems want eternal dependency (welfare and/or working under the table) and eternal votes.

Same as it ever was.

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@Austin - and the Mafia handed out turkeys at Thanksgiving. Everyone needs a turkey dinner right?
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"This includes under President Trump, who claimed he was with his 'wall.'"

Yep.

8 U.S. Code 1324a - Unlawful employment of aliens

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/....

Here's the gaping loophole that protects employers from prosecution:

(1)(A)(ii) A person or entity has complied with the requirement of this paragraph with respect to examination of a document if the document reasonably appears on its face to be genuine. If an individual provides a document or combination of documents that reasonably appears on its face to be genuine and that is sufficient to meet the requirements of the first sentence of this paragraph, nothing in this paragraph shall be construed as requiring the person or entity to solicit the production of any other document or as requiring the individual to produce such another document.

And who is the only person responsible for changing the code if it isn't effective?:

(1)(A) The President shall provide for the monitoring and evaluation of the degree to which the employment verification system established under subsection (b) provides a secure system to determine employment eligibility in the United States and shall examine the suitability of existing Federal and State identification systems for use for this purpose.

(1)(B) To the extent that the system established under subsection (b) is found not to be a secure system to determine employment eligibility in the United States, the President shall, subject to paragraph (3) and taking into account the results of any demonstration projects conducted under paragraph (4), implement such changes in (including additions to) the requirements of subsection (b) as may be necessary to establish a secure system to determine employment eligibility in the United States.
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Exactly.

E-Verify stops 99% of the employment-of-illegals in one day. It is extremely hard to game that, because if the person who has forged credentials has ones being used somewhere else it bounces, as the other person and their tax residence correlates in the system and theirs is known good.

If the person using forged credentials has credentials of someone who is deceased that's caught instantly against SS Master List, which is updated VERY rapidly (in my mother's case, when she died, within a week!)

If the person using forged credentials has credentials that are completely bogus E-verify will bounce that too, since no file record exists.

Trump could have trivially mandated that under existing authority for all US employers, and that would have been that.

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Radiosity
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> and that would have been that.

Until Joe and Hoe came in, at which point it would've been instantly undone again.
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True.

But Trump still didn't do it, and with no source of income how many of those *******s would have stayed?

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I think there will come a time when the illegals will flee the United States. I am not sure when that will happen (date wise) but given the rate of corruption, decay and collapse, I think it is a very real possibility. I don't imagine the illegals signed up for Civil War 2.0, Revolutionary War 2.0 or World War 3.
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Sigh. Neighbors like that! I am not in a financial situation where I can move from the suburbs to a rural location. My brain dead neighbors with illegal family have been fully vaxxed. Given their ages and health status, they are slipping on a banana peel. I am not concerned about operational security. The neighbors are (likely) not long for this world. I hate to say it but a good percentage of my community has bought into the woke and liberal agenda. Vaxxed for all! We are all in this together. Yeah, right. God Bless Them. I hope it works out, but I suspect it won't.
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There was a noticeable exodus in 2008 when a lot of the construction jobs became redundant. You would notice far fewer crappy construction trucks filled to the max with Hispanics on the roads here in the SW. The decrease in road traffic was nice, not as nice as lockdown levels, but an improvement.

They are also frequently uninsured drivers and poorly disciplined by the local constabulary as they've seemed to be able to game the system without the nexus of a driver's license. I've had one car totaled by someone who suddenly forgot how to speak English when the local PD arrived to take the accident report.
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UI coverage in Florida is hideously expensive for this reason; the local cops and county judges and such do NOTHING to those *******s when they ram your car, and of course they have nothing so suing is worthless too.

The amusing part is that in TN it's quite cheap by comparison. Gee, I wonder why? Maybe "no speaka-de-english" gets you tossed in the county lockup around here if you pull that ****. All I know is that it costs less, and not a little less either.

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Sonoran_monk
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Yeah, it is bad here. She provided false documents to the police and I took proof of that to the station a few weeks later after talking to her purported insurance company. The idiot cops actually told me they would do nothing and threatened me with arrest for bothering them with the matter.
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Im quickly becoming a huge fan of @Susanlauren. You always have good stuff to say. Off topic I know. But needed said.

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Susanlauren wrote..
Sigh. Neighbors like that! I am not in a financial situation where I can move from the suburbs to a rural location. My brain dead neighbors with illegal family have been fully vaxxed. Given their ages and health status, they are slipping on a banana peel. I am not concerned about operational security. The neighbors are (likely) not long for this world. I hate to say it but a good percentage of my community has bought into the woke and liberal agenda. Vaxxed for all! We are all in this together. Yeah, right. God Bless Them. I hope it works out, but I suspect it won't.

Good points all, and it's probably good they won't talk to you anymore. It's tough to pity those types of people but you're right, wishing ill will is just plain bad juju. I suppose the most neutral way of putting it is, "We all have to live with our mistakes." And they just made some epic faux pas.

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Traelin0
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Austin wrote..
Maybe Trump didn't want to hurt people , EVIL TRUMP !

Well...Trump didn't appear to want to do a lot of things.

Like guarding Epstein after the first "suicide" attempt.

Or hiring a Cabinet with brains - Reince Preibus, Rex Tillerson, Mad Dog Mattis, John Bolton, Nikki Haley, John Kelly, Jared Kushner, H.R. McMaster, Gina Haspel don't count.

Or keeping Birx and Fauci in positions of authority.

Or Warp Speed and the "beautiful vaxxes" which he STILL touts.

Or 14 days to slow the spread.

Or bitching about fraud without doing a damn thing about it.

Or leaving his supporters high and dry, where they're being charged as political prisoners instead of trespassers.

Or not pardoning Assange.

Or bump stocks.

Or...I could be completely off base.
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Chain migration works for illegals with family legally here, but smuggling is faster.
Jack_crabb
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Quote:
Chain migration works for illegals with family legally here


Yeah, that's more bull****, too.

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Jw.
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California (for example) is run off illegal-cheap-as-dirt-labor.

Obama deported people in record numbers, apparently they didn't want Trump to break Obama's record... smiley

Have to hand it to the Demtards, they convinced their followers to believe that illegal labor is not slave labor...and allowing people in to be taken advantage of is a good thing.

If you are going to let people in you either give them citizenship (and they pay taxes and get the rights like everyone else) or you don't allow them in.

The rulers of this country are getting the little people to do their evil biddings for them under the guise of wokeness. It is the most pathetic and stomach turning thing I have ever witnessed in my life.
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Purportedly, Deep Throat of Watergate fame instructed to "follow the money".
Karl does do a great job of simplifying the issues.
Thx!

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Burke13
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How much longer before we start to see cases where people with investment income get a Latin America passport, renounce, then pay one of these coyotes $10-15k (or fly to Vancouver and walk) to sneak back in? If the government doesn't care about borders, why pay 22-37% in Federal income taxes (plus any cap gains, State tax, etc.)?

Added bonus: You are now a protected and desciminated class (a "Dreamer") I'm only half-joking about this, by the way.
Burke13
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Microbesrus wrote..
The current clown and the previous joker both said they essentially want an endless stream of people coming into this country.


Let's never forget that this dates back LONG before the last two Presidents. I CLEARLY remember taking the public bus to High School in California under Reagan in 1987/88 and EVERY bus had advertisements near the ceiling handrails which said the following in English and Spanish "If you are living in the U.S. illegally, you have until x date (in 1987/88) to declare your status with the government for amnesty. If you miss this date or fail to report you will be subject to deportation" (end of story).

The above was the "Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986" and made it illegal to hire illegal immigrants. But as we've seen, writing a law and enforcing a law are two different things.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/99th-congr....
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When do the beheadings begin, and the slashing start, Alan Snack bars are everywhere, no need for the privileged to even cross a border, what's the limit, on their Mastercard? This once great country is headed for unmitigated disaster.

Get ready for defending yourself to charged with a hate crime, Europe is leading the way, we are certain to follow.


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Shadowmask
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@Jack_crabb chain migration and birthright citizenship need to go. No more ****ting out a US citizen and staying on welfare forever.
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The USA supposedly has the most powerful military in the world, and yet it can't defend its own borders from an invasion of criminal illegal trespassers. This alone proves the invasion is by design from the very government officials who lie when they take an oath, for elected office, to defend the country.

This alone makes them all guilty of TREASON for providing aid and comfort to the enemy of this country the instant they finish being sworn into office.

All these traitors know is to regurgitate the key words that make people think they will represent them every election cycle, and the Communist Media provides cover for them 24/7 by labeling/branding the citizens racists for wanting their country's borders defended.


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@Kikknback

Let me help you out. A great many "US" leaders, CEOs, and Congress Critters are dual-passport holders, zionists, or compromised and they have one loyalty. They infest their US host, and serve their real master.

Matthew 6:24

"No one can serve two masters"

It's just common sense. Say, how about we allow a dual passport holder, Iranian and US, be elected Senator? What? Why not?

"Jonathan Jay Pollard (born August 7, 1954) is a former intelligence analyst for the United States government. In 1987, as part of a plea agreement, Pollard pleaded guilty to spying for and providing top-secret classified information to Israel. He was sentenced to life in prison for violations of the Espionage Act,[1] making him the only American to receive a life sentence for passing classified information to an ally of the U.S.[2]"

"Jonathan Pollard Was One of the Most Damaging Spies in US History" - military.com

"Prior to Pollard's plea bargain, the U.S. government began preparing a multi-count criminal indictment against him, which included drug offences and tax fraud along with espionage.[12] The government alleged that Pollard used classified documents to unsuccessfully broker an arms deal with the governments of South Africa, Argentina, and Taiwan.[12] FBI investigators also determined that Pollard met with three Pakistanis and an Iranian foreigner in an attempt to broker arms in 1985.[12] Pollard eventually cooperated with investigators in exchange for a plea agreement for leniency for himself and his wife. Israel said initially that Pollard worked for an unauthorized rogue operation, a position they maintained for more than ten years. They finally agreed to cooperate with the investigation in exchange for immunity for the Israelis involved."

"When asked to return the stolen material, the Israelis reportedly supplied only a few dozen less sensitive documents.[60] At the time, the Americans knew that Pollard had passed tens of thousands of documents."

"The Israelis created a schedule designed to wear the American investigators down, including many hours per day of commuting in blacked-out buses on rough roads, and frequent switching of buses,[60] leaving them without adequate time to sleep, and preventing them from sleeping on the commute.[60] The identity of Pollard's original handler, Sella, was withheld. All questions had to be translated into Hebrew and answered in Hebrew, and then translated back into English, even though all the parties spoke perfect English.[60] The Commander Jerry Agee remembers that, even as he departed the airport, airport security made a point of informing him that "you will never be coming back here again." After his return to the US, Agee found various items had been stolen from his luggage.[60] The abuse came not only from the guards and officials, but also the Israeli media.[60]"

"Sella was eventually indicted on three counts of espionage by a United States court.[61] Israel refused to allow Sella to be interviewed unless he was granted immunity. The United States refused because of Israel's previous failure to cooperate as promised. Israel refused to extradite Sella, instead giving him command of Tel Nof Airbase. The U.S. Congress responded by threatening to cut aid to Israel, at which point Sella voluntarily stepped down to defuse tensions.[62]"

"During the morning of January 20, 2021, the last half-day of Donald Trump's U.S. Presidency, the White House announced that Trump had granted a full pardon to Sella. The announcement stated that the State of Israel had requested the pardon and had issued a full and unequivocal apology. The announcement also stated that Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu, Israeli Ambassador to the United States Ron Dermer, United States Ambassador to Israel David Friedman and Miriam Adelson had supported Sella's request for clemency.[63]"

Ah, the crypto-jew Trump issues a pardon to another jew. How surprising

"Although Pollard expressed a desire to move to Israel, he did not immediately do so after his parole expired due to his wife's health issues, and remained in the US for over a month while she underwent chemotherapy for breast cancer. Pollard and his wife finally arrived in Israel on December 30, 2020, on a private jet owned by US billionaire Sheldon Adelson to accommodate Esther's health issues. They were greeted on arrival by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who handed Pollard his Israeli documentation.[17][18] Israeli Intelligence Minister Eli Cohen said that Pollard would be granted a government stipend equivalent to the pensions granted to former Mossad and Shin Bet agents"

"After 34-year delay, Pollard handler Aviem Sella promoted to brigadier general"

"Pollard: Jew-hatred a foundational belief of Amalek Biden administration"

I know what the Amalek are. So does the enemy Pollard. Do you? If not, why not? Will you be somnolescent to their worldview forever?

The predawn scene unfolded with a camera rolling, as Mr. Netanyahu, who has just begun what will be a bitterly contested campaign leading to elections in March, met Mr. Pollard, who completed his parole last month, and his wife, Esther, at Ben-Gurion Airport near Tel Aviv.

The couple descended from a private jet, kissed the tarmac and recited a Jewish prayer of thanks reserved for new experiences. Mr. Netanyahu added one of his own, praising God for releasing the bound though the prayer is ordinarily said upon waking to refer to freeing the worshiper from the bonds of sleep.

The prime minister then handed Mr. Pollard, who was granted Israeli citizenship in 1995 while in prison, an Israeli identification card.

The jet that delivered the Pollards belonged to a casino owned by Sheldon Adelson, the Republican billionaire who is a longtime benefactor of Mr. Netanyahus, the Israeli news media reported."

"The single biggest Republican donor on the Republican side was Las Vegas casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, who, with his wife Miriam Adelson, gave more than $218 million to Republican campaigns and outside groups during the 2020 cycle."

Also, this Zionist Jew was Trumps biggest contributor iirc.

Just threw this together, you can cut and paste text if you want the sources tho most of it is WIKI and the last ABC news.

My point here is it really isn't treason. Their master and nation is Isreal, and their god is Old Scratch. Once you internalize this, the behavior of the elites and (((your))) government - over the last 40 years or so - will snap into perspective

@Vernonb

Deal with it. Buy within the US, and be willing to pay a 50% premium to rescue family stupid enough to get stranded outside of the country; if you want to send capital earned under the aegis and freedom of the US overseas to buy property - pay the premium. It's that simple

Oh, and that 50% applies to all charitable donations going outside of the US as well. Plenty of people here to help but if you insist on sending coins overseas - pay the premium. No exceptions. You can lament how unfair it is on FB that your donation to Angola got taxed.

Think of the likes you'll get.

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Microbesrus
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@Burke13

Point taken. I guess it just seems more exponential now, but maybe I wasn't paying attention before. Specifically I remember in being in 5th grade, 1992, and there was one black and one latino child in my entire school.

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