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Kikknback
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Kikknback wrote..
The Criminal Medical-Industrial Complex, ALL levels of ALL Media, and ALL levels of ALL Governments have done nothing but ponticate* to the citizens while they have done nothing but lie to move this Mass Murder along.


* Should've been Pontificate, but intelligent people knew that was a not-enough-coffee-ingested-yet moment.

Great postings. Just remember everyone, these Diabolical Narcissists are extremely mentally sick individuals who will never admit they were wrong.

There is enough evidence in the public domain where they could step forward to admit so, but they now push the boosters with, "Challenger, go with throttle up".

And America vanished into the dustbin of history.

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What works ... All the things the alphabet health agencies along with the mainstream media are denigrating and telling you are dangerous. You know, like early aggressive treatment with the FLCCC protocols. Ivermectin, Zinc, high dose vitamin C and D3, Melatonin, Aspirin, Famotedine, Budesone, Quercetin, broad spectrum antibiotics for secondary bacterial infections and so forth.

What doesn't work ... All the things the alphabet health agencies along with the mainstream media are telling you are safe and effective and necessary. You know, like no treatment at all unless your lips are turning blue and then supplemental oxygen, dexamethasone, monoclonal antibodies Remdesivir and intubation. And lest I forget, the vaxx - injection one and two and boosters for the rest of your (greatly diminished) life expectancy.

Remember boys and girls: if it is generic, over the counter and inexpensive (off patent) it doesn't work. If it is very expensive, experimental and still on patent, it works well. And if the alphabet health agencies along with selected "governmental officials" stand to gain millions from stocks and investments in pharmaceutical companies, then the recommendations are "golden".

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It tells more that that. It means over 50% of the people who didn't get the shots, can't spread it. Only 17% of the population remains, plus the 63% they claimed for the jabs.17% couldn't spread this, if they all had it, it the shots were worth 2 cents.

The new question is, how many immunities did they wipe out with the jabs? They basically made 60% of the population typhoid Mary's.

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Luciab
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@Donkey. Your problem with my comment is what?
Wakeupcall
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Regarding doctors, I think the simplest explanation isnt bribery, its blackmail. Subtle blackmail. Standards have been set by cdc or nih or who or whoever. If a doctor goes against the protocol for treatment, he will be sued if a patient takes a turn for the worse. And even if no patient dies, if his medical group or hospital finds out he is going against protocol, he loses his job or privileges. I think a lot of doctors are mindless followers, I think a lot are also between a rock and a hard place, so they ignore anything that contradicts what the experts are saying. Its the only way, at this point, to not lose everything. Even my own doctor is walking a fine line in what she says or does. She is noncommittal, but tells dh to do his research before making any decision regarding the vax.

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Interesting hypothesis on the how and why of this happening:

"For people who have based their whole world-model on the fact that there is a well-functioning system, including science, international organizations, medicine, journalism, etc, and this is what makes the world work, the pain must be unbearable.
https://twitter.com/alexandrosM/status/1....

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Bigbuzzle
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"Although aspirin was associated with a small increase in the likelihood of being discharged alive this does not seem to be sufficient to justify its widespread use for patients hospitalised with COVID-19."

You just can't make this stuff up.

The FLCCC calls for a small daily dose of aspirin, can I take more than that?

Should I be taking anything to lower my fever?

I am a couple of days into a covid infection.
Quantum
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@Tickerguy FWIW, that antibody study was possible because blood collection groups were routinely testing for covid antibody. However, as of June 25, 2021, Red Cross has stopped that testing. Other organizations may (or may have already) follow, ending this data stream.

https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blo....
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Okay, so this bit of information will not mean a whole lot to anybody but I thought it interesting enough to mention. A very good friend of mine is an escort, and she aint cheap.. to get in bed with her it starts at a thousand. Well anyways, she comes down with covid last year and she tried to infect 5 of her clients, ones that had done something to******her off in the past, and failed to get any of them infected. She told me that she was literally breathing down into their throats and did a lot of kissing, something she normally wouldn't do.

Oddly enough the person that did get it from her was a taxi driver.. and he was forced off the job for 2 weeks because of it.
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This is very well worth watching.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blo....
Neonsignal
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@tickerguy

Re the disappearing flu argument - I agree 100% that the faulty PCR testing caused a lot of misdiagnoses.

However the theory I referenced (https://eugyppius.substack.com/the-disap.... made a few interesting points:

1. if flu cases were at their normal levels, you would expect more kids to be getting sicker, but we see kids largely unaffected
2. flu disappeared globally including places that didn't have much of a covid problem
3. flu's seasonal niche seemed to be replaced by a covid outbreak

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@Bigbuzzle - Aspirin is a drug that works very well BUT some people should not use it at all, particularly those on any sort of blood thinner already (you REALLY don't want a hemorrhagic stroke -- you will almost-certainly die!), those with ulcer problems and similar. If not, well, why not use the standard maximum dose on the bottle for a few days?

The one downside is that fever actually helps the body fight off whatever it is, so there's a trade-off. My GENERAL rule when febrile is to NOT suppress it until and unless it prevents sleep or otherwise becomes intolerably uncomfortable, or reaches a temperature that is dangerous. BUT, in this case, I did use the aspirin -- since the anti-inflammatory and mild anti-clotting effects are both GOOD THINGS in the context of Covid, and I have no contraindication against its use at full, adult strength.

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Nhguy
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Listen from 3-5 minutes sad for the fully vaccinated. A governor laying it all out there. https://www.wboy.com/news/health/coronav....
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@Nhguy and yet after citing what's happening in Israel he clamors for booster shots.

@Mjc1960, see this video at the 3-5 minute mark for the increase in hospitalizations of vaccinated individuals. Public stats.

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Traelin0
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Wakeupcall wrote..
Its the only way, at this point, to not lose everything.

I believe you're dead-on accurate. But in making their decision, they've chosen to camp with the enemy. That's how I view it. Either have a red line and make a stand - and build a TRULY better community in the process - or suffer the consequences when SHTF.

Just my $.02. I also think they should be learning some valuable skills other than one which requires pushing SSRIs, BP meds, etc. Not only will they be harder to come by at some point, but there is no magic pill to make the world a bump-free ride.

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Cwatson1982
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I'm patiently waiting for evidence of double breakthroughs to call game over, I am SURE they have happened from anecdotal sources...but no one is tracking it, studying it or otherwise reporting on it yet.

BTW, Israel updated their dashboard a couple of days ago to track those with booster shots for active/severe cases and deaths.

"There were 607 deaths in August 2021.
Deaths by vaccination status:
Unvaccinated->218 (35.9%)
1 dose->14 (2.3%)
1+2->313 (51.6%)
1+2+3->62 (10.2%)"

between 2 and 3 doses, 61.8% of covid deaths in august were vaccinated
Bigbuzzle
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@Tickerguy I have also noticed a correlation between my aspirin use and my blood oxygen levels. Aspirin is the only anti-coagulant I have in my medicine cabinet, so I guess I will use it.

I also am a firm believer in letting fevers do their thing, obviously the body is doing it for some reason.
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Don't make the mistake of "some is good, more is better" that people did in 1918. A surprising number of people killed themselves with aspirin during the 1918 pandemic.

Note that the maximum recommended to toxic dose range for both aspirin and other OTC NSAIDs, including acetaminophen, is about 2.5:1. That's not very wide when you think about it so do use some care and keep track of things; about 500 people a year kill themselves with acetaminophen in the US and its unclear how many of them were suicides as opposed to cough syrup, perhaps a double dose as the first one didn't do enough + tylenol = you're ****ed as you didn't realize the cough syrup had a dose of acetaminophen in it too.

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Nhguy
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@Madmaxx I sent this out to a bunch of friends they all said the same. Why more boosters if the first vax isn't working. It's going to be a long winter for my vaccinated friends here in NH. I'm worried to say the least. I got in 50-12mg Ivermectin tablets from India in April and I have two tubes of horse paste too as a backup. I'm so glad I did this as my gut said they'll try something so we can't get it. Lucky I am a very healthy 60 year old.
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I would ABSOLUTELY be prepared NOW to get this thing if you have not had it, and do not KNOW you have had it.

Not guessed, KNOW by antibody titer either shortly after alleged recovery or now, if it was a while ago.

LOTS of people who were PCR+ never actually had Covid-19. If you're one of them and think you're safe, well, you're NOT.

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Rickylc
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antibody tests are easy and cheap, and the antibodies last a long time. It would be interesting to see how long, I tested positive 4 months after having the vid, anyone here get a positive result further out than that?

I will probably get tested again around 9 months just for my own curiosity.
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IgG+ if you have not been vaccinated is very solid evidence of protection. However, if you were infected odds are extremely high that you got induced B-cell reactivity, so even if LATER IgG- you are likely protected AT LEAST against severe disease, and maybe entirely.

But -- you need that first IgG+ test to know.

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Franco
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This will sound weird, but lately I have been pondering trying to catch covid to get it over with. Ideally one would catch a small viral load so as to get the immune response and minimize the chance of ending up in the ICU. But I dont know how to go about catching a small load of sars-cov-2.
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@Franco - Viral load at infection is irrelevant. Viruses are exponential replicators.

So the replication goes like this:

1 infected cell -> 1,000 virons released
100 infected cells -> 100,000 virons released (90% fail to get to a new cell)
And so on.

So if you get enough to get infected cell .vs. 100 infected cells (a load 100x as much) what have you accomplished by trying to get a "minimal dose"? Nothing.

With bacterial infections this can be a winning strategy because bacteria double with each successive generation as a bacterium is a complete organism and replicates as does any other cell. As such that extra "time" for your immune system to recognize the problem can work. This, by the way, is WHY many bacterial (and fungal, by the way) infections (e.g. PCP) are almost NEVER a problem EXCEPT in immune-competent people; your immune system figures out what's going on and kills it before it can get enough of a titer to make you sick. Viruses do not work this way as they are exponential replicators -- and the exponent is very large.

In the case of Covid-19 the believed replication factor, based on best-evidence, is approximately 1,000 and the generation time approximately 10 hours.

BTW I recommend AGAINST trying to deliberately get infected. Why? Because respiratory pandemic viruses trend toward more-infectious and less-lethal. Delta, for example, is missing two codons that are believed to be responsible for the crazy clotting-disorder dynamics seen in Italy early in the pandemic. That doesn't mean you can't get ****ed by it, but one of the mechanisms that COULD **** you up appears to not be in Delta. This is exactly expected behavior as the virus mutates, and it argues that taking reasonable prophylactic measures, along with being prepared to hit an infection HARD with meds WHEN you get it anyway, is the winning strategy because while it does not guarantee success you're better off with a Delta infection than "Wild type" or Alpha, all things being equal.

Of course if you packed on 50lbs between the start of Covid-19 and now, well....... oops.

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Franco
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Tickerguy:

Thanks for the response.
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