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Neonsignal
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Alex also pointed to this author who makes a nice analysis for vaccine failure:

https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/vaccine....

Basically the argument is that high vaccination rates have not reduced overall rates of serious complications, even if the statistics are massaged to show some form of effectiveness.. the overall counts are still as bad or worse that last year. Therefore the vaccines don't work.

The same author also has a nice article on the disappearance of the flu, he argues that covid ate the flu's lunch evolutionarily, and it may have gone extinct.
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The second is bull**** and calls into question the logic capacity of the author.

Likely half of the people claimed to have Covid-19 did not. Their Ct values were high enough that the predictive value of the test was statistically zero. If symptomatic, they likely had the flu.

This could be catastrophic for them IF they believe they've acquired immunity and really have not, particularly if they are in some way morbid.

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Australian health chief Dr. Kerry Chant says that COVID will be with us forever and people will have to get used to taking endless booster vaccines.


The vexxes will continue until percent sick improves! And if you're dead, your no longer sick.

https://summit.news/2021/09/06/dr-chant-....
Jstr
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@Tickerguy - right, sorry, thank you; I meant separating the infected from the noninfected among only the vaccinated.
Or am I missing, or misreading, something?
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@Tickerguy - sorry, I am stupid/tired; nevermind.
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No worries.... yeah, this was a serological survey from blood donations, so it does not tie back to individuals. It's exactly, however, the sort of widespread survey we should have been doing since this STARTED.

Why didn't we?

Simple: It would have blown up the claims of "XXX cases" instantly when the serological surveys showed FAR FEWER people had in fact had the infection than the CDC had said.

This is both good and bad. It's good in that the virus is NOT as easily-transmitted as they claimed.

It's BAD in that MANY people were told they had it, quarantined and otherwise ****ed, and yet NEVER WERE INFECTED (in other words we did trillions of dollars of damage individually to people without cause, for which we should hang the perpetrators) AND they may think they're immune WHEN THEY ARE NOT, which COULD easily get them killed.

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Bluto
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@Tickerguy
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Natural immunity is about 20% as of May. Vaccine the balance.


"Natural immunity" here means "naturally acquired immunity via recent infection" right? Which is different from "pre-existing immunity" for one reason or another, which we know is significant from the Diamond Princess.

Adding natural immunity (0.2) plus pre-existing immunity (likely 50% minimum) (0.5) plus vaccinated (0.6) greatly exceeds 1. But even adding 0.2 to 0,5 gets us to 70%, which means the virus is essentially done and cannot have "breakouts", as you point out in your article. That means the vaccine MUST be screwing up the immunity of one or both of those groups. Probably the "pre-existing" immunity group.

If so, that is really bad news, since it is likely screwing up their "pre-existing" immunity to a bunch of other stuff. I guess we will find out in a couple of months.

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@Bluto - Acquired immunity via infection. And correct -- that is NOT pre-existing immunity.

And yes, that's my conclusion too. In addition the claim from the CDC that AT LEAST four people had an infection for each PCR+ test which was an infection also is now known to be bull****. This strongly implies that HALF the PCR+ tests were not actually positive, the person did not have Covid-19, and either was asymptomatic and had nothing or was symptomatic and had something else.

The "something else" explanation, incidentally, tells you where the flu went.

It went nowhere. We just called the flu Covid-19 to gin up fear and screwed roughly 15 million Americans at the same time. What's worse is that those 15 million may think they're immune due to prior infection BUT ARE NOT and, if they're materially morbid, that illusion could easily kill them.

I cannot PROVE the jabs are destroying pre-existing immunity but it is a hypothesis that fits the facts. There's a ticker in the queue on this.

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Bluto
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So here are the risks from the clot shot:

1) Definitely more deaths associated with the clot shot than all other vaccines combined for the past 30 years
2) Definitely "wears off over time" and gives the recipient a false sense of security, which actually increases their chances of getting and/or spreading it
3) Probably messes up their immune system as it relates to previous protection against SARS type viruses. Unknown if it destroys their immunity response to other invaders
4) Unknown long-term side effects
5) Some evidence of ADE/OAS/VEI or similar immune dysfunction as it relates specifically to Covid-19
6) Chinese are hard at work injecting their political prisoners with that garbage in an attempt to exploit that fact that 60% of Americans have taken it, and 0% of theirs. Good thing the Chicoms suck at math and science.

Anyone (with the possible exception of old, fat people) who takes this is like playing Russian roulette with all 6 cylinders loaded. Dumb.

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Traelin0

Its a little more than that.

The academic guys are employed. They know the party line and wont question it.

Lots of others just follow the crowd. Its safer.

A few like me have stepped out of line. Ive treated hundreds of COVID patients with HCQ and or IVM as well as D, Zinc etc. Ive been ridiculed by many of my peers. Believe me doctors like to go along to get along. Life is easier, more pleasant and more lucrative.


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Cvdoc said:
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Ive treated hundreds of COVID patients with HCQ and or IVM as well as D, Zinc etc.

So what works and what doesnt?
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AND they may think they're immune WHEN THEY ARE NOT, which COULD easily get them killed.


Which is also probably the reason for the big "catching covid doesn't make you immune" meme. They have to have cover for the ****ty false positives.

And yes, the flu disappearing. That too.

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Tritumi
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IVM from CVS: 2nd refill placed, awaiting completion. That will complete family protection plan for now.

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Japan update: as predicted, Minister of Jabs has inside track to become next PM. Domestic Vaccine Passports gaining higher profile in media discussions.

Mrs Tritumi does not want me to join demonstrations.
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@Tickerguy. I argued serological tests at our local level last year. Md said the danger of a false positive was too great a risk because people would think they were immune after their false positive. A very small percentage as well with the accuracy of the serological tests.

The irony is as you stated. All kinds of people with false positive pcr tests thinking they had it but they didn't.
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If Karl's byline is "I told you so," my byline is *this will not end well," Winter is coming.
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Exactly @Smb14.

The real CRIME here is that for those who got hit with a quarantine why did we not go back 2 weeks later and poke their finger? The reason is obvious: If they did not seroconvert in any sort of statistical size they didn't have the virus, and the entire scam collapses instantly.

As for "false positives", that's bull****. False NEGATIVES are far more common with a linear-flow test and that's what you use for mass-distribution as they're CHEAP. Getting a false positive on one of those is damned unlikely.

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Cvdoc you reminded me of the classic Buffalo Springfield song For What Its Worth, relevant now as it was 50 years ago.
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Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when youre always afraid
Step out of line, the Man comes
And takes you away.
I think its time we stop, hey whats that sound,
Everybody look whats goin down.
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Thank you for your good work.


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@Dingleberry
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All you have to do is ask a few basic questions and they will not be able to answer them rationally. Only "do it for granny".

Which is pretty rich, considering that everyone from Gates to Cuomo WANTS granny dead. I think that was my first clue last year that this whole thing was some sort of weird op, and not really about a virus. Were we supposed to believe that Gates, who's long been obsessed with culling the human population, and Cuomo, who celebrates aborting babies all the way up until due date and delivery, suddenly CARED about saving human lives? Gimme a ****ing break.

The people running this op are monsters, and have been for many years. What surprises and appalls me is all the doctors, teachers, local politicians, and parents who are going along with all the homicide, job-wrecking, infliction of trauma, and mass child abuse. I am shocked at how formerly decent people have become so ****ing CRUEL.
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Raftermanfmj wrote..
Figuring out exactly how, and when Christianity was emasculated might be an entertaining line of inquiry.

I don't wanna derail Karl's posts anymore, but once you perform the Socratic method on it, the answer is clear. Are they following Christ, or is their idol Honey Boo Boo and the latest Tesla Model S?

Look around America and you've got your answer. Were they interested in taking the pain when Karl was yelling about the Bezzle? It would've been less painful than now. But did anyone open their ears? What about the TEA Party, which if memory serves me (and it often doesn't) I think Karl was the guy who kicked it off with the tea bags.

This goes along with what I'd do with the average American quack when all is said and done. They went along with evil, so justice must be meted out. But it must be balanced with mercy based on the dumb****ery of the individual and the heinousness of the crime.

Ergo, your average family doctor should be cleaning bedpans in a hospice or leprosy clinic for the rest of their working days.

Fauci and Gates? Not going there.

Christianity always needed the revolutionary Crusader to defend the crux of our belief system: Individual free will, the choice to **** or get off the pot. It'll come again. The evil ****ers who did all of this won't get off.
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Cvdoc wrote..
A few like me have stepped out of line. Ive treated hundreds of COVID patients with HCQ and or IVM as well as D, Zinc etc. Ive been ridiculed by many of my peers. Believe me doctors like to go along to get along. Life is easier, more pleasant and more lucrative.

Apologies, I shouldn't have lumped all doctors in together. This one was personal though and I will never forget. I've never been one to just "follow orders" and I hold every other individual to my same standards.

If truth be told, what it comes down to is what George Carlin said with respect to voting. "They don't pass through a membrane from another reality...Garbage in, garbage out...If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish ignorant leaders..." LOL. No different than your average doctor, lawyer, etc.

Common sense ain't so common.
Mabman
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Great article on ivermectin:

https://unshackledminds.com/indias-iverm....

Indias Ivermectin Blackout
Published by Auto on 14 August 2021
Uttar Pradesh on Ivermectin: Population 240 Million [4.9% fully vaccinated]

COVID Daily Cases: 26

COVID Daily Deaths: 3

The United States off Ivermectin: Population 331 Million [50.5% fully vaccinated]

COVID Daily Cases: 127,108

COVID Daily Deaths: 574

Let us look at other Ivermectin using areas of India with numbers from August 5, 2021, compiled by the JHU CSSE:

Delhi on Ivermectin: Population 31 Million [15% fully vaccinated]

COVID Daily Cases: 61

COVID Daily Deaths: 2

Uttarakhand on Ivermectin: Population 11.4 Million [15% fully vaccinated]

COVID Daily Cases: 24

COVID Daily Deaths: 0
Mabman
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Australian Senator Malcolm Roberts On Ivermectin Suppression: 'They Have Blood On Their Hands'
KanekoaTheGreat Published September 5, 2021

https://rumble.com/vm4rva-australian-sen....
Heartlander
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Anyone (with the possible exception of old, fat people) who takes this is like playing Russian roulette with all 6 cylinders loaded.

Gotta disagree with you. NOBODY should be taking these Death Jabs that turn your own body into a spike-protein factory. If you're old and morbid, for goodness' sake get on the FLCCC chronic prevention protocol IMMEDIATELY. Especially, and at a bare minimum, the Vitamin D3.

If you get Covid anyway, start early treatment IMMEDIATELY upon the first sign of symptoms. There are several of these early treatment protocols -- FLCCC, AAPS, Zelenko, Fareed & Tyson, take your pick. But do not inject the world's most toxic molecule into your body! That spike protein tears through your body wrecking everything it touches from the inside out. It makes my skin crawl to even think about it.
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It feels like IVM is going to get harder to find at any price. I have enough for two hit it hard and hit it early doses, but am afraid to use some now for prophylaxis in case my first symptoms that I dose turn out to be a flu false alarm and now I dont have enough for the next attack. Anyone have an idea how to balance this approach when we find ourselves in a no more IVM world. Been watching local feed store shelves for some time with no luck. Can refill a prescription for 72 more tablets in November if CVS will still fill it.
Mikeyinfl
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Here you go. The AMA liars list of talking points. Winter 2021 edition.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/20....


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Instead of -> Say
Lockdown -> Stay-at-home order
COVID mandates, directives, controls, orders -> COVID protocols
National duty -> Personal responsibility
Coronavirus/COVID-19 -> Pandemic
Hospitalization rates -> Deaths
Defeat, crush -> Eliminate, eradicate
Operation warp speed -> Standard process
Government -> Public health agencies
Science-, medicine-, data-based -> Fact-based
The consequences of not taking the vaccine -> The benefits of taking it
Getting the vaccine is the right thing to do -> Getting the vaccine will keep you safe
Predictability/certainty -> A return to normal
Discover/create/invent -> Research
The dollars spent; number of participants -> A transparent, rigorous process
Security -> Safety
Misled/confused about the vaccine -> Skeptical/concerned about the vaccine
Historic -> Advanced/groundbreaking
The worlds leading experts -> Americas leading experts
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