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Edwardteach
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and 83.3% for combined infection- and vaccine-induced antibodies in May 2021.


I guarantee you it's even higher than that in canada...probably >90%, and canada is still in the throes of a "4th wave".


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Heartlander
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@Tickerguy Your comment juxtaposed with the one immediately before it show why I trust you more than I do Geert Vanden Bossche.

Evidence, evidence, evidence.

If only the "health authorities" were as honest and thorough as you!
Luciab
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@Troymt- I was exposed on the 29th of July. On the 11th I noticed the first symotoms. I checked my temp and it was 99. Thought it was a cold until hubby came home sick and we tested positive fot Covid. He got it from me. Thankfully he works outside operating heavy equpment and was not near anyone so he did not pass it on. That is one scenario timewise for you. BTW the person was double vaxxed and I direct faced her for 5-6 mins, and was at the premises for no more than 15 minutes tops. Thats all it took.
Raftermanfmj
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Epstein isnt dead.

Lets logic our way thru this one.

The guards were incapacitated/isolated the cameras disabled. Shows an active conspiracy in progress. You really thing he committed suicide and all those other things just happened? Come on, man

So they had to send in someone to kill him, a team. Thats why the cameras were off, etc

But if you have a team go in then the team also must go outso theres no reason not to take a body in, and extract your target as you exfiltrate

Epstein no doubt had a dead man switch - many of them. They didnt go off - why? Because hes not dead.

Why kill a valuable asset, when you dont need to? Plus its good for MOSSAD recruiting when they can point him out sitting on a beach - See how good we are?

Lastly Epstein flew from France to land in NY and get arrested. Hes a freaking billionaire, could have flown anywhere including Israel - and he flies to NY to go to prison for life? You would have to be literally insane to think thats what happened

He flew to NY because he knew the fix was in and hed be extracted. There was a deal in place. Those that he has info on could not let him die OR be prosecuted / put on trail.

So they faked his death, and with some nice plastic surgery hes drinking margaritas and raping 12 yo kids on a beach in Tel Aviv. In the evenings he teaches night classes for MOSSAD.

Count on it.

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Whitehat
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Susanlauren wrote..
Over the weekend I had a disconcerting conversation with a friend who is vaxxed. Out of the blue he begins to talk about becoming seriously ill and about wanting to die with dignity. I am like WTH - he isn't sick (at least not that I know of). I don't want to read too much into the conversation, and I wonder if he has a sense of "foreboding". Very strange.

i think that some people at an individual level do know when their end is near. Both my spouse and mom got the feeling and articulated it to me about two years before any symptoms. years earlier, i knew for myself. It is a sense of foreboding and acceptance.

as for Xiden, he is just playing the fear card to carry on the agenda.

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Maddmaxx
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"Also interesting situation...The small human and I are big Red Sox fans. Watch them on the tube most nights. They are currently getting hit hard with the coof. Eleven players I believe as of last night on the covid IL. During an interview a couple days ago the manager let it slip that the majority were vaxed players."

@Baerv I am waiting for some of these fully vaxxed NFL teams to have similar outbreaks and I hope it is conclusively established that the vaxxed are spreading it to the other vaxxed (wouldn't hurt if they were able to establish that in MLB, too). In short, I am hoping the NFL with its idiotic vaccine policies sees those policies blow up in their faces. I havve vowed not to turn my TV on to a single NFL game this year. Hope I can keep that vow.
Lightning
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One thing to keep in mind is that seeing VEI is dependant upon when people got vaxxed. Each state will vary based on when the majority received the vaccine. In my state we had a lot vaccinated by April. 4 to 6 months for them to wane is just beginning now. I fear Karl is correct & winter will suck for many.

There are those who are naturally immune. My husband never got it when I had it and we did not attempt any seperation or isolation. I have a coworker whose husband almost died from covid and she was his caregiver. She also never became infected. I have antibodies my husband has none. I share this for those who are concerned as some potential hope in regards to catching covid.
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This needs more retweets:

"Attorney Ralph Lorigo has gone to court to force hospitals to give ivermectin to vented patients.. 12 times. He won court orders 11 times. 9 of those patients are now home and the 10th is rapidly improving on ivermectin. I guess this country needs more lawyers and less doctors"


https://twitter.com/PierreKory/status/14....

Traelin0
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Tickerguy wrote..
We are in the part of the year when environmental factors are STRONGLY in favor of suppressing respiratory viruses. Vitamin D levels in the population are at their annual highs and UV levels outdoors are WAY beyond "nearly-instant" sterilizing levels for viral particles as well. In addition indoor A/C systems remove viral particles VERY efficiently because they tend to travel on water vapor and an A/C system spends most of its energy removing water, not cooling the air.

For you, Karl. I never got around to proving thru the calculus, but it's not beyond second semester multivariable and Gaussian. At the time, I was satisfied with the assumption of continuous rate of expiration throwing off a lot of the naysayers. IIRC and given the "average" scenario (average water droplet size, average person's rate of respiration, average RH, average temperature, average thermal stratification/uniformity) a complete evaporation of the theoretical water droplet would occur within .25s-1.75s.

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.10....

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Tickerguy
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@Lightning - Yep.

Very early on in this thing I shared what happened to a very close (nearly a son) person in my orbit.

His grandfather got Covid-19 and it killed him inside of five days from first symptoms. He had no specific exposure risk, but was doing all the necessary and usual things (grocery store, etc.) His wife, of equal age and approximately equal morbidity (both in their 80s with plenty wrong with them as is common at that age) never even sneezed.

She, quite-clearly, was immune. No way you're sleeping in the same bed with someone through early symptoms and are not MASSIVELY exposed. If you CAN get it, you WILL get it. Yet it didn't happen.

Same pattern on Diamond Princess except THERE it was even more-obvious because instead of a house (some separation part of the time) these were couples confined to a 100sq/ft cabin for close to a month! Yet in SEVERAL cases one of the two got it and bad while the other never did; no symptoms, no positive test.

Just beware that outside of a blatant, outrageous level of exposure (e.g. someone with it in your household!) this thing is nowhere NEAR as easy to pass from person to person as is commonly thought, and in addition the degree to which an infected person is contagious varies widely. A single Ct difference in the respiratory tract is a doubling of virus able to be shed, yet there are symptomatic people with Ct numbers under 20 and others in the mid to upper 20s. That's a WILDLY variable figure and it does not always correlate with severity either. In addition I'm 100% certain this bug is shed out the ass as there have been PLENTY of studies documenting that as a fact, so you have both fecal aerosol (including FARTS) and fecal/oral exposure routes of infection involved.

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Tickerguy
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@Traelin0 - The other factor outside is the exchange rate of the airspace. If there is even the SLIGHTEST convection or movement of the people in it the rate of air exchange (and thus dilution of whatever is in it) is utterly phenomenal and WAY beyond HEPA standards within minutes if not seconds.

Of course that does absolutely nothing if you are shedding it out your ass and get it on your hands..... which is why Polio was such a BITCH in the summertime.

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Chemman
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MJC1960
"Let's hope that ADE doesn't rear it's ugly head, I have too many people I love who have been vaxxed."

VED/OAS/ADE are kissing cousins but not the same. We won't have to worry about ADE if VED(VEI) is raising its ugly head.

Goldbrick
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Great Ticker again today, and supplemented by this data today from England: https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/05/latest-p....
Pandemic of the Vaccinated - - Latest PHE Report reveals the vaccinated account for 70% of Covid-19 deaths since February
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Because of the threats now being made to give an experimental Covid-19 injection to children against the advice of the JCVI, and the confirmation that vaccine passports will be introduced in the United Kingdom from October, you're probably not aware that Public Health England have released a report at precisely the same time which reveals 70% of Covid-19 deaths since February are people who had been vaccinated.

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The vaccinated have become superspreaders to susceptible people.

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Chemman
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Mjc1960
For what its worth I live in a very rural county. For the purposes of FEMA energy assistance grants it generally falls between the 3rd and 5th poorest county in the US.

As of to we are at 26.5% fully vaxxed. I suspect most of those are from the Navajo Nation portion of the county. Where tribal members live in more densely spaced communities including lots of multigenerational homes.

My state breaks cases out at three levels state, county and zip code. The only area that went exponential on cases was the Navajo Nation. The account for 70% or the county population and nearly 90% of the cases and deaths.

The zip code I live in has never come close to an exponential curve and even with a low vaccination rate and natural infections we will approach herd immunity soon. We have a population density of less than 3 persons per square mile with lots of retirees that only go to town every couple weeks or less. So with no one to pass an infection on to the infection will die out.

Even with the low vax rates and low number of natural infections we are seeing the younger vaxxed who work in surrounding towns have break through infections and a select few hospitalized.
Bigbuzzle
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@KD I honestly thought you were going to talk about this publication https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fu....
Kickthecan
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@Bakerv

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Are the Chinese still not jabbing their people with mrna based vaxes? Asking for a friend.


https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/countr....


Although other types are approved, and even more had trials, they are almost exclusively using inactivated ones. Maybe they don't care about losing a percentage to ADE. Maybe they know much more about this and built a vaccine that isn't dangerous, although not very effective either. Maybe most people there are getting saline.

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Asimov
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Oddly enough, this hasn't shown up on promed yet.

Hmm...

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Patentleathershoes
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Here's a question.

If you have t-cell immunity, and are getting chemo that wipes out your b-cells, would the t-cell immunity protect you?

I'm convinced I'm only alive because of isolation (everything delivered), supplements and HCQ.

Also, generally, if you are t-cell immune and not immunocompromised, would you generate the antibodies to CV19.

I know these are probably stupid questions but the brain is not computing right now as it usually does.

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Bigbuzzle
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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fu....

The way I read this, many of the clotting type side effects of the MRNA jabs actually occurred more often in weeks 4-6 post jab as compared to weeks 1-3 after. I wonder if they are going to publish the data from further post jab? Absolutely scary stuff. Mind blowing.

Risk of ischemic stroke 1.61 per thousand in the first three weeks,
Vs. 1.78 in weeks 4-6.

Acute myocarditis .94 vs. 1.03

Appendicitis 1.18 vs. 1.35

What do these number look like during weeks 7-9? I can't imagine any doc filling out the Vaers form 6 weeks post vac for some 80 year old stroke victim.

Also, as far as I can tell, this study made no differentiation between shots one and two, so are these risk factors cumulative?
Georgi
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@Cynicdeluxe , the raw data from Israel per week and vaccine status are here: https://data.gov.il/dataset/covid-19/res....

The data do get updated regularly. The last update for the week 22.08-28.08 came on time. In order to be able to count I replace '<5' with 2.
From the data:
deaths in this last available week: after 1 dose: 4; after 2 doses: 67 ; after 3 doses: 25 ; unvaxxed: 66
Ignoring the single dose deaths we get 58% of the deaths in this week are double and triple vaxxed. It is still smaller than the percentage of the vaccinated above 19y olds in the whole population - I think it was around 80%, so according to those data there is still some protection from the vaccine with respect to this particular endpoint. However, this protection is below 20% relative risk reduction and vanishing rapidly.

Jc3
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Breakthrough infections needs to be correctly called vaccine failure.
Using the BI term is similar to using "undocumented" instead of "criminal".
Thelazer
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With China, I wouldn't trust anything to be what they say it is over there.

Also @Winder, had similar thing months back. Tested negative, also T-cell tested negative.. but I sure as hell had "SOMETHING" maybe a flu, maybe RSV, I dunno.. at the time no one though to test for those things also.. only thing they tested for was Covid.

Reformedhippy
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This was shared on my FB feed by an old college friend who works in the swamp now. Might be an interesting county to follow in the coming months.
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We, in our arrogance, believed that foregoing the several years required to make sure that ordinary mutational patterns would not lead to the same result didn't need to take place and a short, four month trial was sufficient."


It's almost... and stop me if you've heard this one before... it's almost like this was never about a virus.
Jc3
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Looks like experiments in control are moving forward down under.
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