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2021-09-05 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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Newsom Recall: A Fatal Blow?
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The left is scared out of their viral minds about the possibility of Elder taking the governor's seat from Newsom in the California recall election.  They should be.

On Tuesday September 14th, the ballots have to be in.  Current polling is not in Elder's favor by a fairly decent margin.  It certainly hasn't helped Elder that Newsom is literally bribing voters, sending a state "stimulus check" to anyone making less than $75,000 a year and have earned income and filed a tax return on it.  But -- that program excludes a large block of Democrats; those who, for example, have no earned income as they're on disability.  How this will translate nobody knows.

Recall elections usually do not succeed.  But -- these are not normal times.

Many people have been screwed blind by Newsom's policies over the last 18 months.  But others are still hiding under their beds as a result of the fear megaphone Newsom has blasted at everyone, along with others doing the same, as well.  How does this all shake out?  It's tough to know.

If Newsom is recalled, however, some very interesting things might happen.  Among them is that should Feinstein step down -- whether forced or not -- it has to be presumed that Elder would appoint a Republican to her seat.  In response to this, of course, Feinstein has swore she's not going anywhere.  Do recall that Dianne was the one who refused to close the public bathhouses in San Francisco early in the AIDS epidemic despite knowing that they were a primary vector for the disease that was killing people by the score.  She was more-concerned with losing an election than lives, and ultimately got rewarded for that with a Senate seat.  Isn't that special?

The voters do not appear to care about that; they sure haven't for the last few decades.

In a couple of weeks we will know the outcome, one way or another.  And folks, do remember that despite shenanigans that always happen during elections an overwhelming result will still stand, simply on the math.  Yes, when its close it's a different story, but that belies the first and foremost job of any successful politician when it comes to elections: Make damn sure it's not close.

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That is several tons of heavy lifting to ask a state like California whether they want to continue to live enslaved, and expect that environment to make a stand for Liberty.

It will be a very interesting test to see if people have actually used this time investigating the truth of this Covid-19 GENOCIDE to have learned anything too concerning freedom from tyranny.

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Eh, not getting my hopes up at all on this one.
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Wonder how long it's been since California had an election that was counted accurately. After the last presidential election, I came to realize that all these absolutely ridiculous policies that people "vote" for are probably counted every bit as accurately as the one for the thief-in-chief and the *****.

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I think Elders has a decent shot of winning. Newsome's handling of Covid and forest fires have done nothing to endear him to the population. His campaign can't even decide whether to have Jo or da Ho come stump with him.

Also coming up this Fall is the VA and NJ Election for Governor.

In Virginia it's Clinton's bagman Terry McAuliffe (back for another run) vs. Glenn Youngkin (co-CEO of Carlyle Group). Given the Dems are recycling a former Governor I think it looks good for flipping the seat. We also have House of Delegates up for election.

In New Jersey Phil (kill all the old people) Murphy is running for a second term vs. Jack Ciattarelli. Money raised looks about even and in 2017 Murphy won with 56% of the vote. I grew up in Jersey and the politics there are pretty sleazy. Not sure if Murphy loses but it would be a plus if he did.
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Getting rid of Feinstein before she wants to step down would be a huge win for a lot of reasons. Getting Newsom recalled would be wonderful for the reasons stated above but I'm not betting on it.
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Feinswine will not step down voluntarily, but at her age anything can happen and might -- and if the seat becomes vacant before end-of-term the Governor appoints the fill-in.

If that results in a flip of the Senate, well, then what happens happens.

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I would not be surprised if Elder pulls this off. The former state Senate majority leader (a Democrat) has endorsed him. There are many angry people who have lost their businesses due to Newsom's illegal lockdowns. Crime is out of control, hellish forest fires, homelessness, etc.

Another really interesting aspect to this is the Latino vote. In many areas of the country, it is trending conservative. Trump got 33% of the vote in Miami-Dade county (Florida) in 2016. But nearly won with 46% in 2020. In terms of raw numbers, Trump got 200,000 more votes in 2020, BUT Biden actually got fewer votes there than Clinton. Another example is the border counties in Texas. For 100 years, they have voted 90% Democrat. But in 2020, Trump nearly got half the vote. A 30% swing. In fact, I think those counties comprised the biggest pro-Trump swing in the country. Now we didn't see that in California in 2020, but maybe it will happen now?

If Elder can win, or even come close, this would help the Republican party in California, which is in terrible shape right now. The Dems control 80% of the US House seats, so a somewhat-viable GOP can drop that down to 60%, which would result in a flip of 10 House seats. No more Speaker Pelosi.

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@Capcomp

I read recently where McAuliffe failed to sign his paperwork for his candidacy. While the two witnesses signed it, he did not. He is getting sued, but under black-letter-law, he is apparently ineligible to run.

We will see what happens. Virginia has some tough election laws. A few years ago, there was a conservative running for the House of Delegates there and he messed up his paperwork, and wasn't allowed on the ballot. He managed to win with a write-in campaign, but the courts stuck to black letter law.

And in 2012, the laws to get on the ballot were so difficult, that of the dozen or so Republican presidential candidates, only two (Romney and Paul) managed to do it correctly. A lot of the others said "not fair", but the courts stuck to the law, and ONLY two candidate were on the ballot.

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@Campcomp - Even the Dilbert guy is moaning about Newsom because he can't go outside because of the fires. Too bad he can't hypnotize or persuade the smoke to go away.

Does anyone else want to see a debate between KD and Scott Adams about vaccines and Ivermectin? He touts his analytical skills because he's a trained economist (lol) and dealt with lots of data, like engineers don't do that on the daily.

I know, I know, it will never happen but it would be epic if it did.
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I know it's a long-shot but wouldn't it be funny if so many people have moved away from CA and then it turns red?!

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@Bluto - Yes I did read that https://thefederalist.com/2021/08/27/fra.....

While I'd love to see him kicked off the ballot I'm not sure how the Virginia Supreme Court would rule given they just voted to uphold the removal of the statue of Robert E. Lee from Monument Ave. in Richmond https://www.npr.org/2021/09/02/103359585....
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I lived in CA and watched it go from the Golden State to the golden shower. I am quite familiar with democrat machine politics. Which essentially is bribing voters (the unions, welfare, etc.) with cash, hot dogs, anything. And then of course having voting "irregularities". Think the teacher and other public "servant" unions who run that state are going to vote themselves a pay cut?

I would love if Elder won, and some of my faith in humanity would be restored. But it is a long shot. A VERY long shot.

And CA is really no different than any other blue state.

Once it takes root, it's all over. As in terminal. Corruption, crime, paying FAR more in taxes and getting increasingly less......for those of you who had the privilege of living in a Dem city....you saw this, and moved away if you could. It didn't matter if the entire city council, mayor, etc. got caught stealing....the dems get re-elected time after time. I have relatives who live in dem cities and they constantly complain about bad roads, failing schools, fire dept closures, lack of services like getting roads plowed, trash, etc. And they pay sky-high taxes for it all. Then I ask them do they know that most of the taxes they pay go to union contracts, especially to retirees who most likely moved to FL or AZ. I get the deer in the headlights look. And they will still vote dem as they are the party of the "little peoples".

It's called the "democrat machine" for a reason. I would love to be wrong on this one, but experience tells me otherwise.





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The Senate dynamics are really interesting here. The Dems are also on thin ice in Vermont with Leaky Leahy in his 80s (with 50 or so of those years in the Senate). Vermont has a Republican governor. If Leahy has health problems, the GOP governor might replace him with a Republican. Or he (the governor) might run for the Senate in 2022, and replace him with a Dem. As the GOP governor (a RINO) is really popular up there, he might actually have a chance of winning in 2022.

And I think the 50/50 Senate is why the dems haven't replaced Biden yet. If Uncle Joe resigns, Harris immediately takes over. The new VP is selected by a majority vote in BOTH the House and Senate, but with no VP, the Dems lose that tie-breaker vote. So the Senate would be 50-50 and the Dems couldn't pass anything without GOP support until at least one GOP Senator votes for the new VP.

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Newsom has already pulled shenanigans. Newsom via a executive order or something, is allowing people to PRINT out using their personal printer a ballot and use that. Ballot paper is special. It is made to spec in only a few places that print them for States. Weight, size, composition and more. And yes some states have a hidden marker only seen under a special light. This opens the door to huge fraud.

The electronic voting machines will not read a ballot that is not made with official paper. So this makes them all hand counted, and good luck with the paper trail.

The official mail in ballots use a return envelope. Their have been alerts sent out concerning the return envelope with an official ballot. If you fold it back the way it came and put it in, if you voted YES (which for removing Newsom). that will show to someone looking at it via a small open circle cut. It shows a yes vote to anyone looking at it. The implications are obvious.

People noticed it and sent out alerts via twitter etc to warn voters. Warning them to turn it around so the YES vote does not show.

Newsom seems to be very worried there have been several reports that he has been calling the White House asking for "help".
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**** both parties anyway. Let it burn.

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One inaccurate thing from this ticker

the mail ballots screw the possibility of getting an accurate result on September 14. The democrats ran this cheating playbook in 2020 and it won them multiple senate seats and the presidency.

Election Day Sept 14, 2021

Last Day for County Elections Officials to receive Vote-By-Mail Ballots
voted on or before Election Day: Sept 21, 2021

Official Canvass Deadline: Oct 14, 2021


Statement of the Vote: Oct 22, 2021

All you need is the post office to set aside all those "undeliverable" ballots and fill them out for you on election day. Then on election night you know how many ballots you need to make up the difference to win. Post office employees bring in the necessary ballots after hours and bam, whoever paid to harvest enough ballots from the post office is the winner

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Newsom is big on "global warming causing the fire problem in CA."

Well, okay, let's assume global warming actually exists. What, exactly, has Newsom done to alleviate the fire problem in CA? Newsom is really good at blame casting, but, short on solutions.

By the way, the so-called "high speed railway" has fallen out of favor in CA, yet, Newsom continues with that boondoggle. Meanwhile, water shortages are a huge problem in CA. I'm pretty sure even the dimmest CA voter thinks supplying water to the state takes precedence over a train.

We shall see.*

*As a resident of CA, I hope Elder wins, but, I realize the impossible odds he faces.
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I'm more and more convinced that all these stupid policies aren't actually being driven by the voters. The voters are just going along with them because they actually believe the majority want this stupid bull****.

They don't. As many people who want insane policies for everybody - there are more sane people. Those sane people have been convinced that the majority wants something else and they're going along with it.

Paper ballots, inked fingers and human counting with a *PUBLICLY AVALIBLE* camera recording and live streaming the ballot and the tally as they count them.

**** all this bull****. I won't believe an election ever again until we start doing that.

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My fear is how bold the Dems will be if Newsom survives this.

"You don't slap the king" comes to mind, and in modern USA, there are apparently little to no speed bumps to tyranny.


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Meh.

"Behind every blade of grass....."

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Spank in 2016, upon recognizing the complete political capture of DOJ/FBI: "I see no political way out of this box."

Spank in 2021: "Opinion remains unchanged."

Prediction: Recall fails (legit or not, likely not). Several hundred thousand or million productive Californians, with one foot already out the door, realize their last chance at saving their state just went up in smoke. They cash out, and follow the pioneers out of the state leaving an even larger hole in the budget.

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"Behind every blade of grass....."


Sits a morbidly obese FUDD who can't walk 300 yards, let alone run. The number of citizens who are willing to deal with the privation and suffering of ANY kind of violence is vanishingly small. Think we have a police state now? Wait until the "White Supremists are the greatest threat to America" narrative takes hold via some direct action. Whatever liberties the US has remaining will be tossed onto the fire of "security and safety".

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<b>I know it's a long-shot but wouldn't it be funny if so many people have moved away from CA and then it turns red?!</b>

No, it wouldn't be funny because all that blue slime would have to wash up elsewhere, and nobody wants it in their state.


There is palpable hate for Newsom that crosses all barriers of party, but that doesn't always translate in the voting booth, where people often panic and vote the way they always have, for the ephemeral <i>status quo ante bellum</i>.
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For the most part, yes.

But the issue across 330 million isn't there. It's that even 0.1% is an unstoppable force, provided they decide and act alone, and thus it cannot be correlated nor predicted WHO in advance.

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