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Tickerguy
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60+ infected by a fully-vaxxed in LA, proved, most downstream were ALSO vaxxed.

This is going to blow up in the National Felons League face.

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I thought this would be a fall/winter thing.

Nope: it's NOW.

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What is going to happen when all the Karens come down with WImPS (Weakened IMmune Performance Syndrome) this winter when all the seasonal viruses start circulating and their immune systems missed last season due to them hiding under the table? We know muscles and even bone will atrophy without stress. I suspect their immune systems will respond in a similar manner. The 30 pounds they put on during their voluntary confinement won't help either.

And what is going to happen as a result of the massive disruption (due to humans not going outside, gathering with other humans, naturally spreading viruses, etc.) of the viral equilibrium that has existed for a long time between humans and other species that act as reservoirs for human viruses and vice versa? Maybe nothing. But maybe something very, very bad. We are going to find out. Mother Nature bats lasts, as KD says.




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@Heartlander

One of the "good" things to come from all of this is discovering just how many people who haven't done the research like us, intuitively know not to take the shot.

Is it intuition (right brain) that is still active, not destroyed by TV or drugs? Ancestral memories of how the government screwed their great-great grandparents they never met? Or spiritual, such as God Himself protecting them?


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Apparently DeAndre Hopkins is considering retirement over this NFL mandate. The dude is a WR god! I hope he does and begins a trend among the nearly 80% black league. As we all know, blacks ain't down with a vax or this death stab! Something about this thing called the Tuskegee program? ... Idk... must've been what Jimmy the Greek was talking about all those years ago on CBS football. ;)
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@Tickerguy - "I thought this would be a fall/winter thing. Nope: it's NOW."

I hope I'm wrong but I have reason to believe we are in for some serious carnage. There is no reason for a seasonal respiratory illness to be causing so much chaos, unless you factor in "immunity debt", which your article covers. Pay the toll now or later, your choice. Sweden made the right choice.

Anyway, I agree with you on most of your comments but I do disagree with what you said earlier re: this is just sheer avarice and a massive cock-up.

When it comes to modern government idiocy you have three "factors".

As we say in the UK, never consider the "conspiracy factor" without first considering the "cock up factor". For those that don't read British runes, that means Factor 1: never consider a conspiracy before Factor 2) incompetence. I think that's fair.

The third Factor: is "never let a good crisis go to waste".

I've spent a good deal of time researching this "pandemic" and my overall conclusion is that this whole thing was premeditated. It is entirely possible (according to Dr. Richard Fleming and Dr. David Martin) that SARS was the opening gambit and "test" of this.

I have been highly sceptical of the origin of HIV and AIDS. Ebola seemingly came out of nowhere. SARS and MERS had no real logical explanation.

So yes. I think this is a conspiracy that includes Fauci and probably goes back to the 1960s. I will have to watch "House of Numbers" again but I'm pretty certain they have eye-witness testimony (and video evidence from the 70s) of Fauci working on bioweapons for the US government even then.

I'll briefly tell you a story. Yes, it's now way past my bedtime but so be it. :)

The 2009 flu pandemic. During this so called "pandemic" I lived in Dubai and Oxford, UK. During this "pandemic" I travelled to China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, Austria and Germany.

I travelled thousands of miles and nowhere did I see a "pandemic". It was bullshit.

When I was in Oxford, living in a beautiful renovated cottage with a thatched roof - the ultimate in modern living and olde-school comfort (the cottage was built before the USA even existed) I invited one of my microbiologist friends from university round for a barbecue.

He was convinced that we were in the midst of a pandemic. I told him it was bullshit. Like all scientists I know (and most of my friends are scientists), they are total idiots outside of their chosen speciality. Spoiler alert, scientists aren't taught critical thinking.

Anyway, he went to HK/Taiwan for six months (sorry can't remember which) to validate the bio-manufacturing plant for the new experimental Swine Flu stabs. The manufacturer was CHINESE.

He came round for dinner just after his return to the UK. This is his paraphrased response:

"I'm really sorry I doubted you. You were right. This whole thing is a scam. There is no pandemic. No-one I know or met ever got swine flu."

"When it got to the end of the contract, I was asked if I would sign-off on the facility. I said no. It was the most shambolic facility I have ever seen."

"They then asked me how much it would take for me to sign it off. I said I wouldn't take a bribe. People's lives are at stake".

"They then said: fine. We will find someone who WILL sign it off".

Just for the record, Alex Jones claimed that the so-called vaxx (Pandemrix) that crippled so many children in Europe with narcolepsy was made by a Chinese manufacturer. The one that EU bureaucrats and others got was made in Europe. I remember this very clearly.

This is a true story. Please. Let this sink in. This is not my first rodeo with these bastards.
Heartlander
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@Abelardlindsey
"FDA really cannot give full approval for these vaccines if they follow their own standards"

IF THEY FOLLOW THEIR OWN STANDARDS...?????

HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR STOP YOU'RE KILLIN' ME!

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Heartlander
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@Tickerguy
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the tests SHOULD key on both pieces of the spike AND nucleocapsid. You should have to register positive for BOTH on amplification to get a positive test.

If I understand Reiner Fuellmich correctly, that's NOT what the PCR tests do. That's why they're suing Christian Drosten (Drosten PCR test) for fraud.

Reason: Typos
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The Nazi 'final solution' began with the medical scientists and doctors. First came the frail, infirm, and mentally-physically challenged. Their deaths and disposal were studied and optimised. Next came the closed boxes mounted on vehicles using exhaust fumes. Then the first extermination camps using tank engine exhaust fumes. Later camps used faster gas-based methods Zyklon B - a soil fumigant. Cremation on a 24/7 basis for the bodies.

There was a fictional TV series in the UK some years ago which explored mass deaths and disposal (incinerators), due to an unknown cause.

Enter now the 'elegant' health solutions.

WHO could have seen it coming?
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Where I'm employed is handing out the JnJ jab next week, not sure how many people signed up for it but we're @ 45% jabbed among the peasants. The "leadership team" and supervisors are at ~75% as the email from the hr puppet said today. Talking to some of the peasants, who,like me, are unjabbed they aren't getting it. I do love that the news for the JnJ keeps getting more dire. Sucks for the few who are going to get it but the insurance plan costs should rise mightily. I'm looking forward to the day a jabbed worker comes down with delta or whatever flavor is the soup d'jour at the time.
Heartlander
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@Pseudofed

You're talking like you have not yet heard that there's a CURE for this disease, when patients are treated early. It's called ivermectin.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19....
Bluto
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I just read where they are vaccinating animals at the San Diego zoo.

Those people are sick. They hate all life or anything good on this planet.

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@Tickerguy - sorry to @ you twice but: "There's nothing they can reasonably do about it. That's the basic problem with a vaccine; you're stuck with the effects for good or bad"

I kept getting messages from people saying that NAC was a "cure" for the spike protein in the vaxxes. Of course, the FDA banned it soon after.

https://chemrxiv.org/engage/chemrxiv/art....

https://sorendreier.com/the-real-reason-....

I am not recommending anyone get this or use it, but I ordered some from Amazon in France. It's freely available in Europe and appears to be a prophylaxis against the coof.

NAC (N-acetyl cysteine) comes from the amino acid L-cysteine. Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins. N-acetyl cysteine has many uses as medicine. N-acetyl cysteine is most commonly used by mouth for cough and other lung conditions. It is also used for flu, dry eye, and many other conditions.

NAC has antioxidant, anti-inflammatory and immune-modulating characteristics that may prove beneficial in the treatment and prevention of SARS-Cov-2.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33177829....

Aaaand...it's gone. Nothing to see here folks.

https://www.google.com/sorry/index?conti.... :)


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NAC is available here; it is not banned.

There is *some* evidence for it, but it's not very strong. Then again there's no money in studying it, so...... yeah.

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@Bluto

The paradoxes are so striking it fries all my brain circuits if I try to figure them out. There's my son, a non-church-going millennial, who I fear never even cracks open his Bible, but whose spidey-sense antennae have warned him away from the Death Jab. Meanwhile, several of my pro-life, Bible-reading, Revelations-quoting friends and relatives have gotten the Demon Jab. The mind boggles. For my own sanity, I have to quit trying to get my head around it.

All I can say is that my sweet Christian friends were GUILTED into it by those sociopathic manipulators in the NIH and the media.

My son is evidently not so easily guilted. And like I said, has a very fine-tuned bullshit-detector.

As for me, while I believe that following Christ means picking up your cross, it does NOT mean committing suicide, especially under coercion by evil, demonic authorities.
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Quick anectdote. Somewhat entertaining. Wife went to our DR a couple of days ago for routine "health check".

Was questioned re: the Jab

Dr: Have you got the vaccine?
Wife: No
DR: Why not?
Wife: Its dangerous.
DR: It will reduce the symptoms. Hmm? (note never tried to dispute the danger)
Wife: Its non-neutralizing.
Dr: (sigh) I know.

End of conversation. She said it sounded like he was reciting a script. My guess he was pressured/coerced to spout the party line. Kudos to Karl as she used his info to stiff arm the "white coat" The fact that he tried none the less knowing that the Jab was dangerous was irritating.

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Given mass immunization of people with a vaccine that doesn't confer sterilizing immunity but does appear to mask symptoms, does appear to mask symptoms of superspreaders shedding a ton of virus, apt to be fertile ground for evolution of unnaturally virulent mutations possibly rather harmful to unvaccinated people.

Might this not be a reason to consider the vaccine at some point in the future, especially given that it will be unavailable and unaffordable if the risk comes to pass? Or at least trying to deliberately acquire a natural infection?

This is the most troubling of risks because we have seen it before, in agricultural vaccines, because we understand exactly the mechanisms of what happened, because we have never mass immunized a population with a non-sterilizing vaccine.

The danger here is that the vaccine "works", not that it does not.
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Did you mean non-sterilizing?

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@Tickerguy

I can personally attest to NAC effectiveness against cv19, when it hits the lungs. It worked well for both myself and wife in the first cv19 wave in early Sept 19.

I learned this trick in China many years ago.

In the early days of cv19:
Gargle with salt water. If the infection hits the lungs use NAC pre-emptively to clear lungs. Anti-inflammatories as needed. Aspirin as anti clotting agent. Strong antibiotics to clear secondary lung infection. Sleep sitting up to prevent choking.

As an athsmatic I tend to end up with difficult bronchitis and have to manage early. My wife was in bad shape for some months until I overrode the clueless doctors who claimed it was hay-fever.

Since then, a few more tools have become available, as we learn more about cv19. We've had multiple waves here since Sept 19.

So nice to see proof of this NAC.
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Fire healthcare employees who don't get jabbed = money saved.

Jabs make for more customers = money gained.

Those who don't make it = money gained and money saved.

Is this the system "blowup" plan they put together?

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@Heartlander

A big part of the problem is that religious organizations have taught "wimpology" instead of Christianity. They are several generations deep in teaching being "nice" of what the Bible really teaches.

Another part of the problem is that a lot of Christians have been erroneously taught that the are going to get raptured out of here before it gets bad.

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@Heartlander - If I understand Reiner Fuellmich correctly, that's NOT what the PVR tests do. That's why their suing Christian Drosten (Drosten PCR test) for fraud.

You are mixing up PCR tests, antibody tests and T-Cell tests (they seem to exist).

@Tickerguy NAC is available here; it is not banned.

Fair play. I have however seen that the FDA was materially banning it on the grounds that it exists as a licensed prescription medication and as a supplement (of course all those links no longer exist in my bookmarks).

Anyway, there's a good article here:

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/09/jose....

I despise misinformation as much as you do, but I can only go on what I read. When that gets memory-holed it makes me especially cross because it makes ME look stupid.


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research team at Johns Hopkins worked with the nonprofit FAIR Health to analyze approximately 48,000 children under 18 diagnosed with Covid in health-insurance data from April to August 2020. Our report found a mortality rate of zero among children without a pre-existing medical condition such as leukemia.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/21/joh....
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@Maudite "DR: It will reduce the symptoms. Hmm?"

I'm going to get chemo tomorrow. I don't have cancer, but getting a treatment for a disease I don't have is en-vogue!
Salut!

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@Baboon - Amazon pulled it, but nobody else did.

Hell, even WalMart still sells it here.

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