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Mannfm11
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The Pope is a NAZI or Communist. They have no God. He is going to allow the communists to rewrite the bible as a business arrangement, from what I heard. There are a couple of things I understand about the Bible. One is that, if it is the word of God, as claimed, changed, it is no longer the word of God, but the funny papers. A religion based on a make it up as you go along has no principle. Second, you can make up anything you want, from one part of the bible or another. That said, something is justified, when dealing with an enemy, that would be a sin otherwise. Murray Rothbard said the high Puritans that put together the Constitution were the make it up as they went along types.

The abortion issue is a complicated one, but really it is those who own their acts versus those who just find excuses and will do anything out of convenience. A politician who claims a religion, but takes a counter position, is one such animal. He discarded his religion, for his politics. I suspect he was unable to take the opposite side, as it would limit his capacity to facilitate stealing, another violation of the faith.

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The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
Ingar
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We should not be surprised at the state senator's position. Marxists are exempt from all rules when it comes to promoting their agenda.
Lazydaizy316
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And once again we hear the often repeated liberal mantra....Rules for thee, not for me!

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Jack_crabb
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Las Cruces state Sen. Joe Cervantes meets the definition of hubris.

Hubris: An ant ****ing an elephant and saying, "Let me know if I hurt you, baby."

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Omegapoint
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This is why you should never give into the Left. Remember this? Gays just want to be able to marry and be left alone. Well now, we have to not only accept gay marriage but we are required to celebrate it, we have trannies coming into our schools and reading to our children, we must accept 218 (I lost count) genders, and so forth. They depict us normals as the abnormals. Up is down, down is up, good is evil, and evil is good.

These people want to destroy Western Civilization and the foundations it was build upon, which is Juedo-Christian values. They need to destroy it so that they can build a new world, in their own image. Make no mistake, this isn't about improving Western Civilization, it's about replacing it. If we lose this war, it will mean a thousand years of darkness.
Lrs
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Ant: "Let me know if I hurt you, baby."

Aw man, that's a good one! Thanks for the laughs!

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Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it.
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Tsherry
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This seems appropriate, even if it's not in the Triggered thread.
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Whitehat
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just thought of another angle. Perhaps this is just plain old niche building which is considered a very good business strategy in many venues.

Whichever priest or parish does this kind of thing has an exclusive market in Catholics who wish to see it. It is known that very few will follow, thus a monopoly of sorts. At minimum very little competition.

There is also the possibility that some detailed market research was done by said priest, and a market niche already existed to which he tailored his product.

if this sounds so disgusting, then answer as to why it took this long.

It has always been a business to them, and i ain't buying.

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"Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven," Satan's monologue in the first book of John Milton's Paradise Lost
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I spent 16 years in Catholic schools. Overall it was a good experience and has helped me keep life in perspective. Not all of the experiences were positive and some weren't good at all. The Roman Catholic Church is an organization based on its founding by Jesus Chris made up of people. Not all the people in an organization have the good of the organization in their hearts and minds.

The people who have run and belonged to the church were not perfect and some were down right evil. My Dad when we had these discussions always talked about the "human element". All organizations have the human element. Humans aren't perfect, but some are much less perfect than others. If the RC church had perfect people always running it there wouldn't have been the Reformation of the size it was. There would always be people who would not follow the precepts of the church and would likely split off and start something different.

I am now what I call myself as a "Roaming Catholic" My wife protestant and before the WuFLu I would attend service at both churches. My wife's new pastor is a former catholic and now a Protestant minister. I joked with him he is also a roaming Catholic. One who is raised as a Catholic very rarely loses the teachings. You may dislike some of the teachings and rituals, but the experience is always there.

I have my personal issues with Pope Francis and some of the clergy. The RC church itself I believe overall had been a force for good. There have been past and current popes and clergy that have taken the church in directions contradicting the precepts of the RC church which were sinful and evil. In the 50's the clergy had an influx of homosexual men. So much so that heterosexual men were chased out of the seminaries. I am sure there is still that issue amongst many others in the clergy. No church/religion are beyond scandal or sin from its leaders or clergy.

I say good for that bishop for actually enforcing what the RC church preaches and teaches. It is about damn time! OOPS did I day that out loud? Biden, Pelosi and others need the same treatment.

My grandmother's parish in DC had a number of high ranking gov't officials and leaders who were parishioners or attend mass there. I remember a number of years ago watch the old swimmer himself Sen. Ted Kennedy walk up and take communion. What sins were on his soul at the time were between him and his maker. However he publicly preached pro-abortion and other topics completely in conflict with church teachings. He was actually living in sin with a women while being separated/divorced from Ethel during this time. I wondered what the priests who gave him communion actually thought. I got the chance to have the same thoughts when I became a eucharistic minister myself. This question arose during our training. If we knew someone should be ineligible to take communion. We we told we were no to make that decision ourselves based on perceiving if they were sinners. If the person we knew wasn't Catholic we were to give then a blessing versus giving them the host.



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(Politicians), 536 commoditized temple monkeys pawing through the ruins of America in search of bribes. (The District of Corruption) works like a vending machine. You put coins in the slot, select your law, and the desired legislation slides out." Fred Reed. Some editting by me.


Bodhi
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This is why you should never give into the Left.


Nope, concede nothing.

I'm reminded of Vox Day's books, SJW's Always Lie and SJW's Always Double Down.

ALWAYS

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Human beings are created in "the image and likeness of God".
I think you'll find that almost all Washington politicians, most state politicians, and a good number of local politicians are created in the image and likeness of Satan.
Can you sense the foreboding mists of evil enveloping most government agencies today? There's something dark and dangerous on the move that our "leaders" have bought into whole hog. Our "leaders" look and act less like decent folk and more like members of a coven.
Our "leaders" aren't just trying to kill our bodies and our brains with all of this COVID crap. They're trying to kill our souls too.
Whether it's Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, or McConnell and the rest; they're a bunch of devil-worshiping monsters.
Is any sane person going to give up his freedoms or his guns to this sinister lot?
Riceday
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I always like this Hilaire Belloc quote:
The Catholic Church is an institution I am bound to hold divine but for unbelievers a proof of its divinity might be found in the fact that no merely human institution conducted with such knavish imbecility would have lasted a fortnight.
Tickerguy
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Then the NIH showed up.

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Blackswan
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**** em both the Catholic church and that Senator but good for that priest to actually show some balls. **** the pope. Next.

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Steelpiston71
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Forced into Catholicism by parents. Had Baptism, Communion, Reconciliation, etc.

I really got turned off during Operation Rice Bowl back in the late 70's.

It became apparent at a young age this was all about the money, heresy and pedophilia (later on).

I was an Altar 'Boy' for 10 years. I saw and heard some 'stuff'.

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Whitehat
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well, "if they really want to sell the product ...:"


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smiley

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Auldsnu
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@Whitehat: Well, we all have many thoughts, and my experience has been that not all of them originate with us. As far as priests regarding the Church as a business, of course there is a material side to it, as with any synagogue, temple or NGO, for that matter. Nor do diocesan priests take vows of poverty, and they have free room and board and a very small salary. If they have an inheritance, or are given gifts for their personal use,they may accumulate some wealth, but that is very unusual. They surely are not in it for the money, unless they are like Judas and steal from the collection. That has happened, too, but it is rare.

But as for the "business" itself, it requires an enormous expenditure of self-sacrifice on the part of all priests who are living up to their vocation, and in a way I have had a taste of this. I was asked about twenty years ago to head up a program for our parish called "Disciples in Mission" which was an evangelical outreach program. This involved dealing with many flawed human beings, making many decisions which pleased some people and offended others. One couple I remember in particular who cheered me on in the beginning, who urged me not to give up no matter what, and then made it their determined business to undermine the program in any way they could, to the extent of calling me a liar and bruiting that about the parish. When I asked them why they thought I was a liar, they gave me an answer of which I could make no sense whatever. It was a grueling, largely thankless ordeal, although the pastor was pleased with the outcome. It was a crucible and I can see how a lifetime of that would either make a man an alcoholic or a saint. Being a good priest would mean always dying to oneself, doing uncongenial things and always being prodded out of one's comfort zone. A wedding today, a funeral tomorrow, perplexities in the confessional, a miserly congregation, a difficult bishop, a housekeeper who can't cook, sermons to write. If it is a business, it is a very difficult business, and aside from special graces from God well nigh unendurable-at least to the extent that I had a glimpse of it.

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Tickerguy
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@Steelpiston71 -
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Forced into Catholicism by parents. Had Baptism, Communion, Reconciliation, etc.

Nope.

All you had to do was during the scrutiny say "NO!" and in terms of confirmation it's over.

I made clear to my parents that if they forced me to go to prep and stand for scrutiny I would do it and there's NOTHING they could do to stop me.

They folded.

I later went through RCIA as an adult of my own free will. MY CHOICE, which is fine.

FORCED? Nope, never, period. You cannot be forced.

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Superdude
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Since we are the topic of Christianity. I had 2 questions I could never get a straight answer on. Maybe you guys know:

1) Why is St. Paul an apostle? He never met Jesus in person. (Only a flaming bush) He just went ahead and called himself one. He was one of the most sus people in the bible. As the youngins say..

2) Why didn't Jesus after he resurrected not go and visit all the people who clamored for him to die? Wouldn't you go to those people and give them middle finger and say surprise MF'ers! Would that have not converted tons of people when they see all the people change their minds then just visiting his inner circle?

I asked these same questions in Sunday School and got tossed out.

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@Superdude...

1 - Saul, a Jew, (later called Paul) met Jesus in a vision on the road to Damascus Syria where he was headed to persecute and imprison early Christians. You are thinking of Moses and the burning bush. Paul did meet Jesus thru this encounter, and this was accepted by the early church and by the other disciples as genuine, and as Paul understood and accepted the teachings of Christ, he was counted as an apostle.

2 - Jesus, if you accept that He was who he said he was, did have the power and ability to visit those who mocked and killed him, and flip them the bird. That was not his style. Humble, meek, like a Lamb led to slaughter. There were plenty of opportunities for belief in him thru the miracles, teaching, and example he showed with his life. He also had the power to come down from the cross. That would have shocked tons of people, but would have served Satan's goal perfectly in PREVENTING the crucifixion and forgiveness thru Christ's death for those of us who accept that.

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@Superdude
The important thing to keep in mind about Jesus when it comes to the powers-that-be is that Jesus took them on directly, called them out for the phonies and scumbags that they genuinely were. He's the only spiritual leader who toppled an empire, Rome. This is why every tyrant and tin pot clod (think Biden, Soros, Fauci...) hates Christ and His Church. They feel compelled to neutralize Christ and his followers by any and every means possible.
For two decades they've used the pedophilia angle. And, sure, there were a handful of bad priests and bishops. But nothing like the Media blew the story into.
And, who are the real pedophile class? What group defines itself by raping and murdering children? The Elite revel in the abuse of children as they revel in the abuse of all the innocent.
Our "leaders"? The "best of the best"? Really? We're dealing with devils here.
Steelpiston71
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I was 8 years old and fully dependent on my parents as my vision was a -5.25 with 2.0 astigmatism on top of it and... I didn't have corrective eye ware, lol.

My childhood sucked.

I could have balked at Reconciliation though, but getting my 45 lb ass strapped didn't seem worth it, wasn't really into ass blood and such and I rally did like to sit on occasion without enormous pains as well smiley.

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23 For I received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was betrayed took bread; 24 and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, This is my body, which is for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25 In like manner also the cup, after supper, saying, This cup is the new covenant in my blood: this do, as often as ye drink [it], in remembrance of me. 26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink the cup, ye proclaim the Lords death till he come. 27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat the bread or drink the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man prove himself, and so let him eat of the bread, and drink of the cup. 29 For he that eateth and drinketh, eateth and drinketh judgment unto himself, if he discern not the body. 30 For this cause many among you are weak and sickly, and not a few sleep. 31 But if we discerned ourselves, we should not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world. 33 Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, wait one for another. 34 If any man is hungry, let him eat at home; that your coming together be not unto judgment. And the rest will I set in order whensoever I come.

1st Corinthians 11:23-34
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San Francisco Archbishop to Pelosi: 'No one can claim to be devout Catholic' and support abortion.

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The Catholic Archbishop from House Speaker Nancy Pelosis hometown of San Francisco, California slammed her recent support of eliminating the Hyde Amendment and suggested she is not the "devout Catholic" she has claimed to be.

"To use the smokescreen of abortion as an issue of health and fairness to poor women is the epitome of hypocrisy: what about the health of the baby being killed?" San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone told Catholic News Agency on Thursday. "What about giving poor women real choice, so they are supported in choosing life?"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/san-fra....

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