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2021-07-20 12:20 by Karl Denninger
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We know we will get "breakthrough" cases but they're rare in percentage terms.

Oh really?

Reminder: Nobody is tested if vaccinated unless symptomatic.  So says the CDC.  If exposed but vaccinated you are not supposed to be tested unless you develop symptoms.

This make sense if the vaccines work.

Why?

Because in some small percentage -- 1%, 2% -- you'll get infected anyway.  That's just the way it is; no medication is perfect.

Ok.

There are 67 Democrats in the TX Delegation.  I presume not all of them flew to DC; the news says "more than 50", which is enough to deny the quorum and was the point of the exercise.

There are now six confirmed Covid infections among them, and all are fully vaccinated.  That's a failure rate of roughly 10% for symptomatic infections, and not just preventing infection either -- they transmitted it to each other as the infections were serial; not all got it on the same day.

Since the CDC says somewhere between 6 and 24 (best guess 11) people are entirely asymptomatic and untested for each tested, symptomatic infection this means that more than half of the delegation in fact has the virus and is presumably, under the CDC's claim of "asymptomatic transmission" spreading it to others.

Is ten percent failure rare?  How about more than fifty percent?

That sounds rather more like "worthless" to me.  What say you?

In addition a White House official also has tested positive after coming into contact with the delegation.  Said person is also fully vaccinated and is symptomatic.  They, since they are symptomatic, are presumptively contagious despite being "fully vaccinated."

How many White House officials were there?  One?  Boy, that's a pretty good breakthrough case percentage isn't it?

Never mind the 10%+ symptomatic failure rate, which strongly implies at least half the delegation actually got infected, among the delegation itself.

May I remind you that 80%, according to a study first published last summer, of the population has pre-existing resistance and thus would likely either by asymptomatic or only mildly so even if not vaccinated.

Have we improved anything at all other than, perhaps, individual outcomes with these shots?

The data says, within the confidence interval, no.

In other words there is no public health benefit to the jabs.  These fully vaccinated people not only got the virus they gave it to others.  That, my friends, is what everyone claimed wouldn't happen -- if you got jabbed you protected other people.

That claim was never in evidence; the original studies were underpowered to determine that and this was clearly stated in the study itself.  The media and politicians, on the other hand, either didn't read the studies or didn't give a crap about the truth and talked you into taking a jab not to protect yourself if you are at specific risk but by lying to you that doing so would protect others.

We now know that claim was a lie.  It was a lie by lack of knowledge before; now it is a straight-up knowing lie to repeat it.

Add this to all the other lies.

Why would you take any sort of personal health advice -- now that it's admitted that's all the jab advocacy is -- from the very same people who have been caught lying serially on virtually every topic related to Covid since last spring?

You have to be a special brand of stupid to listen to people who get caught lying repeatedly, and then double-down on said lies.

You're only mistaken when you admit to that which is later proved false.  As soon as you double-down on it you're intentionally misleading people.

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Those darn unvaxxed plague rats spreading their germs to the vaxxed shouldn't be allowed to work or shop. Someone do something about the unvaxxed menace!
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My first time to comment here. The first thing I want to say is thanks so much to Mr. Denninger for all you do. Been reading this blog for years.
I wanted to see if anyone else has heard of or had any experience with something that is happening with my wife. She was talked into getting the Pfizer jab by her brother who actually works for Pfizer (he's making huge bucks I might add). She did it and didn't tell me about it until afterward. She knew that I had serious reservations about it, but felt it necessary for her job and her brother of course. About 3 weeks after her 2nd jab she started having serious cognitive problems. Can't sleep, overreacting to everything, memory problems, and just being extremely agitated all the time. The list goes on. It's just too much of a coincidence that it all started right afterword. Maybe she had a blood clot and a silent stroke? I just don't know. She went to the doctor yesterday, and they are scheduling her for a brain scan, maybe that will give us some answers. It's all just baffling and infuriating at the same time. Thanks for listening and if anyone else has heard of anything like this please chime in.

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Little tidbit of info in regards rising insurance costs.

Just reviewed my cal-pers 2022 rates. Our plan up 11.5%.

One of the other plans, the one I think most folks are on, up 23.32%.

Nice!
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Could we mandate Covid tests for all of them? They've actually accidentally done a great thing for the "science" they so revere, but not for the jab that they worship.
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Kinda funny, the rate of people who got the rona on the diamond princess is pretty darn close to the rate on that British carrier.
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The government workers that i have spent years being nice to for purposes of studying them have all of the same information that Karl disseminates here and hold similar opinions for themselves. This has been the case since the earliest days of this mess. Do not know from where they got their information in a lot of cases, guaranteed that it was not my associates or me.

Would not believe the prophylaxis used by those in govt admin and those studying the "pandemic" and even those working in our main jail that was official policy. This means stuff that was brushed off as ridiculous for the rest of us.

Their game is for the civilians and regular working people to bear the consequences of being evidence of the stupidity of the whole affair and for protesting efforts to force it on them.

Once again the roughly half of the country that actually lives in the free market gets to pay the final price.

Remember that there has not been a single call to mandate this for even the most logical population of government workers, namely first responders.

They know the truth and wait for this thing to die out and be solved on our backs. They would never challenge the thing as it might cost them their jobs. Their superiors and the politicos would never risk their votes and support by forcing it. They just ignore the thing until our protests make it go away.

**** you, POS govt workers.

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And yet they are pushing the 'get vaccinated' narrative harder and harder each day... Delta, delta, delta!!

Fauci lost his **** at Rand Paul and dropped the "then everyone must be lying to you" line. Guess the truth is out there right in our face now and packaged, to those who believe the lie, as the most preposterous idea anyone has even had. That government is lying to you...

Saw a meme yesterday that essentially hit the nail on the head.

"The real conspiracy theorists believe that the government cares about them, the media would never mislead them and the pharmaceutical industry that makes billions off sickness wants to cure them."

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@Disgusted. I am sorry for what you and your bride are going through, and likely will go through. I am no expert, I am merely regurgitating that which I have read here and from other reliable sources. Stroke, or mini strokes are one possibility. Prion is another. Neither are good. CJD appears to be a horrid way to go.
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Dr. R. W. Malone has posted some data recently that bears on this. In the highest-vaxed countries on the other side of the world, Delta cases are exploding. Even in countries that claim near 100% vaccination. I'm guessing they can detect it over there more easily because they didn't game the testing regime for the vaccinated population as our CDC did here.
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@Disgusted - See if you can get your wife's doctor to do a d-dimer test. You'll at least know if there are clots. Search for Dr Charles Hoffe, says the clots are too small for scans, but will show up on the d-dimer tests.

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They are going all out to silence anything other than the jabs.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-md/pr/maryl....

Yes, these may be the right thing to do in this case, but this one makes the news while these sites pop up all the time for other product and siezed, but not make the headlines. Everything to discredit non-vaxed info is made public so more seeds of doubt can be planted in the masses who seems too lazy to spend the time to get info from both sides of the story.
Just as it made news yesterday that another major university won the case to mandate the jab. One by one the EUA is being made mandate. Take it or starve.
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@Disgusted - maybe someone should look at her blood under a microscope?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/VaCZuCrAo....
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NC County going door to door to jab the innocent...

https://www.theepochtimes.com/north-caro....
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Twitter is saying that Pelosi has also tested positive for Covid. I'll DM you.

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@Disgusted Terribly sorry to hear about your wife. A member of my extended family has shown similar issues after being jabbed (I'm not sure which version they received). I spent some time with the person about a month after their 2nd dose and noticed obvious neuro/cognitive issues. They've always been sharp as a tack and a strong communicator, but I noticed they were searching for words in every single conversation. When telling a story or having a regular conversation, about every 6th or 7th word, "umm...umm", would be injected into the sentence. They'd never shown anything similar to that ever in my lifetime. They also showed a short fuse, quick to become frustrated or even outright upset if someone questioned something or injected any doubt or confusion into a situation.

I made sure their spouse knew that we all noticed the issues and that this person needed to see a doctor ASAP. It seemed that the spouse was either oblivious or in denial at first. The best first step the family could motivate was getting an appointment with an audiologist. I haven't heard if they've gotten a brain scan, d-dimer test, or if there's been a solid diagnosis yet.
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While the 80% puts the lie to vax protection, with about 10% admitting they have it. The group has said they won't update that number anymore, so it could be higher. But I don't think we can assume that only the symptomatic tested, I'm pretty sure they all ran to a rapid test place and claimed exposure. Nonetheless, the lie is unraveling.
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While this is the opinion of NBC news, the information is being planted that covid mRNA jab will become the mandate across the board, once we get FDA full authorization. The full force push is on for this. It is expected that on Jan 22, 2022 PFE jab will be authorized. Then all hell will break loose. Best thing is for enough bad outcomes by then to not give full auth to these jabs. Even then they may still twist and ignore the data to authorize it. One thing I know, there is no way the powers that be wants this virus numbers to fall off in the next 6 months. The more the number of infections posted rise, the more they will justify their vaccine push come January.
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NC County going door to door to jab the innocent...

go ahead, ring my bell. Try to force something on me in the future, guess what happens.

would also like to add that all of the same memes, jokes and obnoxious comments that we have made and continue to share here are exactly what i have been hearing from the POS government workers throughout this entire thing:

THEY ARE MAKING FUN OF THE ILLOGIC AND SHARING AMONG THEMSELVES STUFF THAT PILLORIES THIS WHOLE COVID-BS, MASK AND VEXXINE CRAP.

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And so it begins. There will be pushback...

https://www.globalresearch.ca/letter-phy....

Four new scientific discoveries, that basically imply you vaccinated, for the most part, all those that never needed a vaccine in the first place
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@Disgusted
Welcome :)

Mostly only have time to lurk myself, but saw your question and have some insights.

The https://covidlonghaulers.com/ people started treating the vaccinated a while ago, as the symptoms sometimes are very much like longCovid. You can write Info@incelldx.com or register on the linked site.

For ref, my wife has longCovid and we're in touch with them re test and treatment.

Best of luck.
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Here it comes.

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