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Kicknon
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@ Wolfgangbaeck
What this country has become represents basically all / or most of the peoples of the world, and there are no new pristine and virgin inhabitable sites left to screw up. Guess that makes us the winner of being last. History will tell that we didn't get so corrupted in the last few years, we've worked on that far longer than all of us here today. Reckon the way to fix our slide could never be agreed upon, maybe.
The "political party" has been in charge forever. Our enemy has lives within, our government is the enemy, an evil mess for sure.
Tickerguy
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@Rsilvetz -
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And no, just because there isn't a procedure to walk back the Election, doesn't mean it won't be walked back. We are a shade away from having the same outcome in GA and PA that we have in AZ. At some point the Biden Admin will suffer a Constitutional Crisis of illegitimacy, possibly as early as August 10th.

Meh.

A Constitutional Crisis? Uh, in what form and from where?

You do realize there is a zero percentage chance of that happening with the existing Congress, right? The FBI will do nothing. The DOD has already folded in favor of CRT and all other manner of soy****.

So who does that leave? Certainly nobody in the DC law-making or law-enforcing branches.

Explain to me how this "crisis" comes about and what form it takes.

All I hear is crickets and Q-****.

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Fumei
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So far no one has made a comment concerning the Militia. The Trumpster fire could have called on the Militia during one of his rallies to go and seize the ballots and other evidence, instead of the DoJ or Army or Border Patrol or Marshals or other any other agency of unknown loyalty. Maybe the Militia would have failed in its mission and maybe it would of found nothing. And maybe the Marxists would have impersonated Militia to destroy evidence and murder people in an attempt to kick-start the next civil war.

But the command never came so this new civil war shall continue to unfold according to the timetable of the tyrants.
Lazydaizy316
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While I am american (living in Kanukistan) I lost all confidence in the american and the kanukistan gubments Ramping up with Billy Clinton and Pauline Martin. Not that I had much to begin with.
I think it really hit the trust wall when my nephew died in a senseless war that only served to enrich the elites and took out a lot of good young men!

Every once in a while I need a good belly laugh and I will listen to a couple of Q videos posted on Brighteon. The goalpost for "trump and the patriots" taking the country back has moved so far back, I can't even see it.
I am still waiting for JFK JR to come back and save the day. LOL

I have noticed in the news that kanukistan is slowly ramping up the unwashed nonvaxers rhetoric.

I am 62, retired and enjoy working in my garden. That is how I plan to spend my last years. If we have years.

I kind of hope trump does run in 2024 so I can have the pleasure of NOT voting for him.

We are SO screwed!

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Jackstrong
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Thinking you were cheated the day after the election and knowing you were cheated seven months after an audit are two different things...
Tickerguy
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@Jackstrong - Yes, but the serious problem is that you DO NOT PURSUE a path that leads to that knowledge of cheating SEVEN MONTHS LATER. Ever.

If you BELIEVE it then you commit when the outcome can be changed.

If you're wrong you're going to prison (at best) and might get shot.

If you're right you win.

If you're not willing to make that bet THEN YOU SHUT THE **** UP.

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Mannfm11
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Karl, you evidently haven't followed this too closely. Trump's own lawyers were conspiring against him, in the White House. You see the nut bag General Biden now has running things. Obama ran the coup, in his 8 years, Trump would have been shot before January 20th. What do you think all this nut bag stuff Pelosi was saying and doing was? She, not Trump, ran the insurrection. She then impeached him, to cover her tracks.

https://www.deepcapture.com/

You might note what the nut bag General said this week. He accused Trump of burning the Reichstag. The ****er doesn't even know history. Hitler burned the Reichstag and blamed his opposition. Pelosi and the bureaucracts did it and clowns like this guy are shilling for her. If January 6th was an insurrection, what was June 17th? The ****ers were maybe a day away from burning down the entire park, including the White House. What was the response? Trump was attacked, because the secret service took him down to the bunker. These same people were cheering on something that was much more extreme than January 6th, which was largely people acting more like tourists than insurrectionists. The window breakers were Pelosi's people, along with the FBI Gestapo.

Everyone in the US knew they rigged November 3, 2020. Save, for people too stupid to know, or too blind to admit it. It was common logic they rigged it. There were way too many ballots and obvious Mickey Mouse things going on, for it to be looked at as anything, but abnormal. You can bet the Supreme Court was threatened by the thugs and the FBI wasn't going to do anything about it. Trump's lawyers quit, because they were threatened, with cancelation. Byrne says half of the staff was sabotaging the other half.

The term tinfoil and conspiracy theorist have been used as weapons against people trying to expose this for years. I know Karl has tried to keep the conspiracy theories off this site. I brought up Emergency years ago and Karl told me it was debunked. It wasn't debunked, it was the new normal, just like they are feeding us again, over this flu bug, turned Bubonic plague. It is woven into US law and is the basis of all executive orders, besides those dealing with war. I must add that Trump declared them, like he was ordering pancakes. I spent a lot of time in the 90's, studying this subject, including reading the laws.

My point here is, this has been going on, since Woodrow Wilson set the stage, between 1913 and 1921. They have been building this trap, this technocratic state ever since. The DC bureaucracy is now a war machine against us complete, with thousands of corporate lawyers, whose interests are to keep the game going, rather than serve the Republic.

It is not important to know who is doing this stuff. It is important to start to recognize it has been done and to unwind it. FDR created the Corporate state, in the 1930's, though it has its roots, in the Wilson administration and grew during the Republican administrations, prior to Wilson. It has been hidden from us, fed into the system, as a million dollar program, one nickel at a time. It has continued, because it has created a massive amount of wealth and power, for those positioned around the Central government. The New Deal wasn't any different than the CV19 insanity we see today, swallowed by some, demanded by others and resisted by people, smart enough to know. FDR, who was really nothing more than a mild version, of Hitler, was treated as a savior.

There are some things that have become clear about DC, since Trump was elected, that have been going on, for decades. DC doesn't care what we think They don't care what the law is. They******us and have their captive media tell us to enjoy it. It is useless to debate solutions, other than to expose the fact they don't care, about them, but instead are aiming to create the maximum **** up.

I have been writing here for a long time and I have rarely used the term NAZI, until the past few months. I use it all the time now, because it is plain to me that is who they are. I'm not a deep historian, but I have read enough to know fascism and what constitutes a real NAZI. They are in control of DC and Biden is proving what they are. The jabs aren't science, they are policy of a totalitarian regime. There is no debate allowed. They came out and said it, this week. A propaganda media is part of the scene. Rigged elections are part of the scene. Weaponized military and Gestapos are part of the scene. Fake insurrections are part of the scene. We are fish, who really don't know what water is, until we get out of it. It is time to pay attention. This isn't a conspiracy theory. They are doing it and calling the recognition of it a conspiracy theory. They control the world under the guise we want what they are doing, law and order be damned.

American elections have been rigged, for years. A guy, with private power got through, because most of us are done with DC and its corruption and they couldn't let that happen. Why did Reagan get shot? Why did the Republicans run Dole, in 96, when they could have run a guy, who could win. Clinton was on the ropes. Why Bush Jr, who was paired against another political crook? Why Obama, a total unknown, schooled in fascist and communist leaning bureaucratic law? Why the Republican opposition, instead of someone who could win. We got Trump and they said, never again.

I will go farther. Why did the DNC rig the nominations, for 2 of the most corrupt people to come on the scene, in 100 years. Both of those nominations had rigged written all over them.

This is only about Trump, to the extent that they weren't going to let him stay. They don't even obey court orders, so we can look. Both parties have been rigging elections for years. The media is controlled and in on it. To think they are using hackable machines and we can't look, says it all. The fact McConnell sat back and let them steal the Senate, leaving us exposed to a criminal process says plenty. A fairly peaceful protest, where most of the people, who went in acted as tourists, while government provocateur's led the violence, is called an insurrection, while fires and around the clock craziness, in Lafayette Square is called peaceful. This is straight out, of 1984.

We like to debate facts and alternatives to attempt to get them to change their tactics. Where has that put us? Censored. The time, for debate is over, because they won't allow it, and care nothing, about the rule of law. The Media wouldn't recognize the Martians, if they landed in every town, in America, but they would push a story they are or are not coming and label any debate a conspiracy theory. The citizens have to find the truth, not the government. Whether it is the jabs, or the obvious rigged election, we cannot count on the media, or the various ministries of truth that have arisen the past decade, to feed it to us.

I will close with this. We have spent over a year, under the misinformation, in the media that anything, off the official narrative, about CV19, was censored or attacked. They knew masks didn't work, but continually doubled down. They knew HCQ likely did some good, but pushed dangerous, costly and ineffective treatments, in hospitals. The jabs are dangerous, maybe more dangerous than all the future CV19 illness combined, but push on and censor discussion as dangerous. Everyone, with a brain, knew we should look into an obvious rigged election, but those that pushed the idea were attacked. The law school deans want any lawyer seeking due process, in what is the most basic right, in the Republic, disbarred. They pushed 3 years of investigation, in a story Hillary Clinton made up and fed through the news, while ignoring the crimes Clinton and Biden have been engaged in, likely because they have many partners in crime. If someone is standing in front of the bank, with a bag of cash and money is missing from the bank and a robbery has been reported, good chance they robbed the bank. The crimes and the criminals are present, but we prefer to engage in debates the criminals raise, rather than report the crimes.

Trump couldn't have stopped this. The swamp, and its' liars in the media would have destroyed him. He took this to many courts, and they refused standing. Texas and joining states took it and were denied. DC has decided what they are going to do, protestors be damned. They wouldn't let us find out, what most of us knew. If Trump found the truth, the media would have made that a lie. Just like the jabs, where an unproven and possibly genocidal medical devise is being forced on the people around the world. We aren't allowed debate. No one can disagree with their crimes. This is what is going on. It is why obvious errors in DC are never reversed. It is this way, because a small group of purse string holding people want it this way and it would shut off the criminals we call elected officials, from their loot and prestige. We and the entire world are now captured in an international fascist system. Time to break it up, and if it takes exposure they were never going to allow, so be it.

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Finzer_52
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Like Biden said during a campaign event prior to the election,
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"We're in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for President Obama's administration before this, we have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,"
Biden's cognitive abilities (or lack there of) didn't filter what he was most likely told by the Democratic "powers that be", that he'd be a shoe in with all the corruption that was put in place to "ensure" a DEM victory. So even as a broken clock is correct twice a day, Biden spoke the truth and the MSM covered for him as to what he really "meant" to say and how to "correctly" interpret Biden's statement.

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Mannfm11
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I see a lot of questions about the oddities with the ballots and registration. I don't think most people get it. They stuffed the boxes and it was the officials that did it. There were 74,000 fake mail in ballots, because they needed cover to stuff the ballots. They never thought someone would insist on looking. I believe they rigged the 2018 Senate race there as well. McSally had a big lead and suddenly it vanished. Absentee voting isn't a partisan issue in AZ and Maricopa County voters aren't Washington DC.

This is fraud you can't find by counting the fraud that is the ballots. Ballots aren't votes, until they are certified as votes. They are pieces of paper that can be fabricated at the will of someone. The voter rolls tell the world who shows up and who doesn't. There is so much automatic registration today that people are on the rolls regardless of whether they vote or not.

There hasn't been a real audit of elections, in the USA for years, if forever. Recounting fraud, is still fraud. This audit has been going on for nearly 3 months. The best Trump could have done is recount the fraud. I suspect they never examine the ballots, match the rolls and verify there is a real person behind the vote.

This is the real point. Some lefty, I think in Texas, said elections don't matter. They really don't, if the Constitution was respected and the Bill of Rights were enforced. All this woke stuff is against the Bill of Rights. The powers of the Federal Government were limited and the 10th was meant to keep them this way. They 14th cannot invalidate the first 10, which has largely been done. THE BILL OF RIGHTS WEREN'T THERE TO ENFORCE DEMOCRACY, BUT TO LIMIT IT, AS WELL AS THE CROOKS THAT HAVE CAPTURED DC.

We have a central government that has been out of control for decades. It has now become a looting machine, for a precious few, along with a means of enslaving the masses. We are told to shut up and take it up the ass.

My hope is that the Bill of Rights solves this problem. But, freedom and a Republican form of government will be called outdated. They ignore the law based on an opinion. The law schools recognize fascism, not Constitutional limitation and the Rights of the people. The rights of the people now involved the force of the government, to loot one party to the benefit of the other and to tell us what to think. The solution to this is a bigger problem than the elections themselves.

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The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
Austin
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A problem i see with you guys organizing a revolt is geographic , the population is too widely spread . think of the time and resources just to get the Jan6 thing together. Your high density areas are mostly DNC . scattered local rebellions aren't going to do it. Military ? ?
Contrast with the UK, massive demos in london they could take out #10 , the BBC , and the members of parliament if they wanted.
Themortgagedude
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Trump never had a chance. He shouldn't have bothered to run for reelection. Anyone that didn't see this coming was an idiot. That includes The Orange Idiot.

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Erroldo
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Let's not even talk about unpeaceful resolution. Trust me, we dont a shooting match to start, TOOOO much high powered weapons in people's homes and it would get very deadly with just about anyone standing being a target for another in needless killing. Our law enforcement is just too small for the civilian mom and pop force who has been getting heavily armed for the last 8 years.
Invisiblesun
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Mannfm11, you are so right about the lack of voting integrity. For all the squawking, no one in government supports proving one legal person, one legal vote. Every federal election should require an audit of vote integrity, with prison time for election officials if it is shown illegally cast ballots were counted.

But in the USA, elections are just theater to make the population think they had a say in being plundered and pillaged.

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You guys have done very well for four pages and counting. Guess what comes next, what everybody needs but fears to speak: a President that doesn't ask permission - just does. And has the backing of the military too. Left or Right, doesn't matter, people are done with various national (and local idiots) getting on TV on "calling" for this or that and then back 'n forth it goes while the debt ceiling gets raised another 10T (notice that wall arrives in about EIGHT days, crickets everywhere...hmmmm).

I showed ya'll a nice Martin Armstrong chart last post, a macro chart going back nearly 2,000 years, that's the forest. The trees...2028-2032 is the AUTHORITARIAN wave. Also, not coincidentally, the LAST wave. So Karl wants pot-commit at the top, me too, you too, we all too and guess what - WE WILL BE GETTING IT. Interesting times and all that. And right after, The End. And credits roll, for whoever is left to read 'em.
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Until bullets fly and people die, nothing is going to change.
The level of abject evil afoot in our world is well beyond everyones normalcy bias. It is incomprehensible.
That kind of sums up the last month since the election, a giant amber alert for Trump's balls. -
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The one thing this election did was pull down the cloak obscuring our gov't is no longer of, for, or by the people. We are in an oligarchy. Trump was not supposed to win in 2016, the fix was in then also. The problem in 2016 was the Dems were so convinced no one would vote for Trump and they were going to win in a landslide. Hiliary was chosen not because the was a likeable or great candidate, but like her husband, in name only, Bill she was owned by oligarchy. The oligarchy was surprised in 2016 and they were going to let it happen in 2020. The uppity working class was going to get slapped back down into submission and like it. Hence WuFLu and lockdowns.

If you want to see how our gov't votes go to OpenSecrets.org and look at the political donations from the bureaucrats in DC and where they put their money. If you guessed DEMs you are the "Big Weiner". I was amazed Trump got done what he did. The gov't bureaucracy was against the wall. His own bureaucrats were fighting him on getting it done and well as members of CONgress both Rep & Dem.

For policies to be administered the bureaucrats have to carry out the orders. These bureaucrats sit in civil service jobs and can't be fired. Obama during his 8 years loaded up his minions into middle & upper civil service positions. There is a reason 94% of the voters in DC voted for Biden.

The DOJ lawyers are mostly DEM sycophants. There was a story in Politico of all places, the past week reporting the DE US attorney purposely buried the Hunter Laptop story because he didn't want it to affect the election. The FBI had this laptop since Dec 2019 and did nothing with it. Giuliani should have dropped this story in time for the DEM National Convention, to throw it into chaos. He stupidly waited until a few week before the election and it was effectively buried by the press. The Biden haters and Bernie supporters would have made the DEM convention a **** show. They were hoping this would be the big October surprise in 2020, just like the Billy Bush tape in 2016, that almost worked but didn't.

Trump or any President does not control the elections in the USA, the individual states do. We are the United States and not Federally Controlled States. Although it seem we are heading there. Government officials whether Dem or Rep, elected or appointed take an oath to the US and their state constitutions. The Dems circumvented the election laws with the generic mail in ballots and the Rep legislatures sat on their hands and let it happen. When the smoke cleared the Rep legislatures were fighting themselves on whether to do anything. Dozens of lawsuits were filed by Trump, down ticket candidates, and voters only to be thrown out by judges. Even Trumps appointees on the USSC looked away. Short of actual armed insurrection this was how the fraud was going to be played out. Trump had no authority to order the Military or US marshals to seize any state election property. The Constitution vest all that power in the states themselves.

We live in a society where very few step out of their comfort zone and take action for fear of reprisals and punishment from the oligarchs. Many of those who stepped forward during the election have lost their jobs. The media publishes names and ridicules those who fight the oligarchs. It doesn't matter who or how famous.

Look at those who marched at the US Capitol. If you just showed up you are being punished. A DEA agent from CA who photographed US Capitol Police being assaulted was fired from his job because he showed up on Jan 6 to partake in a the right of protest. He did not enter the Capitol building or commit any crime. People guilty of no more than trespassing have been held in prison and/or in solitary confinement with no charges filed or hearing on their behalf. They cannot even bail themselves out. They for all purposes political prisoners.

Trump from the beginning was up against the political class he has exposed them and our gov't for the corrupt organization it has become. WE the People are now almost powerless to correct this through the electoral process. The game has been getting rigged for years. CA a formally reliable Rep state is now deep blue and the 50+ electoral votes haven't gone to a Rep since 1988. The power grab from the people is almost complete, HR-1 & SB-1 will help finalize the USA becoming the Banana Republic the oligarchs want and almost half of our population doesn't care or are actually in favor of it. I am surprised Joe Manchin hasn't been run out of the US Senate yet. Kristin Synema is getting a lot of pressure to change some of her positions.

Biden and Kamala are where they are because the oligarchs want them there. They are controllable puppets. Biden is a feeble brained narcissist. Kamala got there because she is a narcissist who moved up by, being as Jesse Kelly put it' "Willie Brown's Bratwurst Bun". She didn't what acts of prostitution she needed to perform. Kamala's new moniker 'WBBB'.

Our federal gov't is out of control and not looking out for the people of the USA, but for the oligarchs and their minions. Many state gov't are not far behind. NY, CA, IL, WA, OR, MD and a number of others are already there. You want to change this, it is either overwhelmingly done at the ballot box where it can't be undone or hidden, major civil disobedience up and above the 1960's, or something more forceful. The Constitutional USA is on life support and they are trying to pull the plug to permanently kill it.


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(Politicians), 536 commoditized temple monkeys pawing through the ruins of America in search of bribes. (The District of Corruption) works like a vending machine. You put coins in the slot, select your law, and the desired legislation slides out." Fred Reed. Some editting by me.


Tritumi
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I have lost friendships this year for proposing a simple arc of election analysis:

fair, mostly fair, stolen fairly, stolen unfairly

and arguing that 2020 fit a "stolen fairly" profile. Why? Because the state level unconstitutional changes were permitted by the GOP legislators in those key states.

But even the suggestion that 2020 has any taint is too much for former friends. They are unable to allow discussion because they are themselves fodder for the cult of national suicide.

All of course have vax to the max.
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IF any of these audits show enough fraud to have changed the outcome (whether the media reports on it or not).. I still predict all out war, the shooting kind. Assuming WWIII doesn't start before then. Seems the whole world is printing to infinity and some things look to be getting quite hot with Slo Joe at the helm.
Kicknon
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@ Raftermanfmj
Why do we make Trump or any one else out to be the reason for our demise at this time in our history? We never take care of the greedy little local political creeps. Our local school systems are filled with a bunch of jolly-do-gooders with no idea about what a real education should be. Every aspect of our life is a daily, yearly duty for a lifetime. Lets look in the mirror here first, if these obstacles are too difficult or not worth the effort, guess Sunday football games get us over thinking it would be a place to start. There are still seven days in a week, holidays are a joke, just another excuse to get fat and lazier. The foundation has and is failing, the wall shifted and the mirror is broken on the tilting floor. After 80 trips around the SUN I know a lot of blame goes back farther than we. Time is not in a habit of waiting like we do.
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What mechanism remains to change the outcome?

There are few cards left. Hell, if Harris holds a press conference tomorrow and says "Yeah, we stole the election. What are you going to do about it?"

What would any law enforcement official do? What can they do short of a civil war?

Elkad
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There is a way to at least kick the can again.
No, you can't flip the election and make Trump president (which wouldn't help anyway, it would just do slightly less harm).

But AZ could decide on their own it was fraudulent and take a shot at recalling Mark Kelly. 90k vote margin, so the ballot stuff (if true) might not be enough. But doesn't matter. If people are mad enough, they might flip the seat red in the recall, whether he won legitimately or not..
Then you get a 51R Senate, which is at least enough to foot-drag heavily.


But there still isn't a next move. Even if the House flips back in 2022, doesn't matter. Hell, put a Republican in in 2024 (assuming that's not too late completely), and with a clean sweep of every branch, they'd still just mark time and not fix anything. Interest rate ****ery, massive unfunded social programs, and printing Dollars like mad are still going to do the job. They won't undo ANY of those, because then you take the necessary economy hit immediately. But it's still a hit, so you don't get reelected because you "trashed the economy", and they are greedy.
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Beyond Proof. Does it matter if election fraud is proven? Conclusively? Beyond a Doubt? And then what?

I think there will be an uprising, but it will happen over hyperinflation and economic collapse - not the election coup
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@Redjack - You are correct, the foundation checks and balance system called Rule of Law does not exist. That foundation is what the so-called Social Contract is built upon, you know the Contract where we all nod at each other in line to "pay" at the supermarket instead of just beating the **** out of each other and taking what we want (only to next get our own asses kicked and have it taken from us).

At present we're all just going continuing to nod (and "pay") out of habit. And, of course, because we still "can" ("pay" that is). But...

@Susanlauren - Habit broken immediately when ability to "pay" ends. I dunno why I care, because I really don't. I'm also going along, 'nodding' in line too, and when that's not how it works, I'll hide and let everyone else beat the **** out of each other and hope to only need to emerge when at least 75% of the players are dead on the field or permanently benched for injuries sustained.
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That's not what will happen super. The UN and ccp will be invited in to quell the Civil unrest.
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And if you don't believe that...https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U04btz4YA6....
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