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Happyapricot
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I am not sure Trump could have done anything. I don't think they get away with this scale of cheating without the help of the Doj, the intelligence agencies, the courts, and military. It was a Washington coup. As well as complete control of the media by leftists. Whatever Trump would have done would have been denied and or spun.

My question is why? Why he large scale cheating? Or have all elections been rigged for a very long time?
Invisiblesun
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Reminder of investigations that vanished like a fart in the wind:

The role of the FBI, CIA, & the Obama administration in creating and pushing the Trump / Russia hoax

The conspiracy to derail the nomination of Justice Kavanaugh - yes, perjury was committed, apparently that is permissable if it is done for the Communist party

The Biden family criminal activity - and yes, Hunter Biden's laptop is real.

The January 6 insurrection hoax wherein FBI infiltrators & Capital police collaborated to create the fiction of Trump supporters taking over the government - a story wholly debunked by the video showing "insurrectionists" being escorted through the Capital by police.

Where is the GOP leadership on getting to the truth of these matters? Where is Trump? Does anyone doubt the FBI is a law unto itself? Where does its lawlessness end?

The election audits, because they are being done outside the purview of the Feds might get to the truth. But then what?


Sterling
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Halethorpe, Md 21227
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It's over people! If your over 50, or retired. Enjoy the rest of your life with family, and friends the best you can. There's nothing we can do to stop the socialism, and the evil corruption in all our government agencies. Yes Trump did a lot of things wrong. He listen to all the so called experts like "Fauci" Big mistake! "Warp speed" for vaccines Big Mistake!. His rush to have a vaccine, and giving immunity to Big Pharm is hurting and killing to many people. Where is Biden? Why isn't he stopping the vaccines that are killing people! Oh never mind, I am told how wonderful, and great he is by some of my friends. Trump mentioned many times how voter fraud could happen, but put in no precautions to stop it. I can't remember when, but I read a story on how dominion voting machines could be flawed, and tampered with 2 years before the election, and nobody seemed interested, or cared to look into it more. Don't get me started about all the people complaining about all the censorship on all the social media platforms. Trump should have put more pressure on the republicans, and democrats in the senate and the house to repeal section 230 while he was president. Gee! I bet all the CEOs of these social media companies are drinking expensive liquor, and high fiving each other about how powerful they are, to be able to censor the President of the US and Get Away with it. I guess censorship is great now! if it benefits your agenda. Where's the FBI! It's a shame they became the most corrupt government agency now. Trump should of fired 50% of the people working there, or disbanded it completely, and start from scratch. I kept hearing, especially from "Sean Hannity" and others it's only a few people at the top that were corrupt. IMO it's a far lot more. Look at all the rising crime, and all the rioters that got a slap on the wrist for looting, assaults, and burning down businesses. Thank God! the FBI sent 200 agents to arrest Roger Stone(Sarc), and sent 18 agents to check a nascar garage noose. I feel safer the FBI told me White Supremacy is the number one problem now. Me and my brother appreciated all the hard work KD does on his blog to keep us informed. Plus all the other blogs out there trying to keep us informed, but it doesn't matter. Oh!! Isn't it wonderful now, to find out the white house is corroborating with social media to sensor content they deemed false. We are heading a lot faster the I thought to becoming Venezuela. However everything happening was known last year, and the year before. All over the news, internet, and other blogs they keep repeating the same thing over, and over, and it's not being fixed, or changed. Who do you vote for? Both parties are corrupt. Half the country think Biden is Great, the other half I don't know what they think. I voted for who I Thought was best for the state I lived in, and the country. It didn't matter I was let down. Why vote? To steal an election has been perfected. The candidates you choose, will disappointed you. All politicians are only in it to enrich themselves, and family members. I would love to throw paint on a canvass, and sell it for 500,000$ to someone in China. Nothing to see there folks. I believe the country is to far gone to be fixed. "LOOK AT THE DEBT" What the hell Biden! Go offer to spend 50 Trillion$. The debt will never be repaid anyway. I am 65 and tried my best to do the right thing for the country. I hope I am totally wrong for the sake of people who have children and grandchildren. To many people I talked to, don't seem to care. Cheers to Hope & a Miracle.
Asimov
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My only hope in this bull**** is that it gets fixed for the next election.

My hopes are not high though. I won't trust another election unless it's held using inked fingers, paper ballots and hand counting with both (or more) sides required to be HANDLING THE BALLOTS and agreeing on the vote. Maybe even on video.

Screw all this stupid ****. If it's not worth the time and effort to do it manually, it's simply not worth it at all.

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Cmoledor
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@Sterling : spot on. Every word you wrote. Just enjoy what little time is left with what you love. I toast you a fine ice cold lager.

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Jack_crabb
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I kept hearing, especially from "Sean Hannity" and others it's only a few people at the top that were corrupt. IMO it's a far lot more


Hannity is a copsucker of the highest order. If he really wants to suck on something he can suck my dick.

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Sterling
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@Cmoledor : Right back at you! Let's enjoy our cold lager together!
Whitehat
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It is curious that when Obama was due to leave the White House and accept the peaceful transfer of power there was all of this talk in even the general media of what would have happened had he refused.

those mentioning it spoke about a president in general and him in specific in mainstream common media outlets like it was nothing to bring up. There were erudite discussions as to how said would be dealt with.

Obama was full of himself, no doubt and a bit weird, but never gave at least me any indication that he desired to do anything other than retire to whatever profited him most.

Why was this concern in the public consciousness or being primed into us? Has bothered me to this day.

Perhaps the people truly want a strong leader to break things a little to fix the intractable problems. Something in the mass psychology revealed itself.

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"Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven," Satan's monologue in the first book of John Milton's Paradise Lost
Sterling
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@Asimov

"I won't trust another election unless it's held using inked fingers, paper ballots and hand counting with both (or more) sides required to be HANDLING THE BALLOTS and agreeing on the vote. Maybe even on video."

I Totally Agree!!!
Captainkidd
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It's all Bread and Circuses....
Something to keep those that are paying a bit of attention busy.
Those of us who are acutely aware are not the target.
Just another in a long line of distractions....
From Q-Anon to Audits...

"It's all in the plan"
"It's about to go DOWN!!!"
Barr was chosen
"It's about to go DOWN!!!"
Grenell was chosen
"It's about to go DOWN!!!"
Durham was picked
"It's about to go DOWN!!!"
Rudy Giuliani
"It's about to go DOWN!!!"
Lin Wood
"It's about to go DOWN!!!"
Sydney Powell
"It's about to go DOWN!!!"
Az/Ga audit
"It's about to go DOWN!!!"
Nothing. Will. Happen.

It's to convince those that COULD BECOME a danger to them that a solution is coming.

Those of us that are completely aware, red or black pilled, and have already lost all faith...not so much.

We will be watched, and exterminated if they think the need has arisen.

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A lawyer with a briefcase can steal more than a thousand men with guns. --Mario Puzo

It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. -- Henry Ford
Gringo9
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@Jack_crabb... You don't have to look past Hannity's ever-present CIA lapel pin to understand his "perspective".
Tdurden
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@Twainfan2: I saw that about those 74,000 ballots. The key piece of information not provided there was how many of them were market for Biden and Kelly. If it's around 50/50 dem/GOP, it's probably a nothing-burger. If it's 90% for Biden/Kelly, The the AZ senate needs to sack up and recall Kelly yesterday and the entire county election org needs to be placed under arrest.

This isn't a matter where you can get away with half-assed statements like that

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Silverspur
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Incept: 2021-06-19

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I read Karl's narrative twice, read the comments and here we are again all guessing what the hell happened. I've said it before 'totality of circumstances'
D.C.'s biggest fear about Trump was his big mouth spilling the beans on their grift operations. Trump either was a fraud (possible) or he got rolled over and over by the establishment politicians (stupid). Was he part of it? Who knows? But as of today what we do have is a simmering revolution, laws not followed, no accountability, open borders, government assisted illegal immigration, media that covers for a senile old man placed in the WH, social media and their censorship operations working hand and hand with WH. A public health issue, pandemic used for political purposes (scare the hell of of people take freedoms) dividing the public, massive spending, debt page 28. on and on. Too many coincidences....if this wasn't planned it certainly is accomplishing many goals of the left.
Eleua
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I am not sure Trump could have done anything. I don't think they get away with this scale of cheating without the help of the Doj, the intelligence agencies, the courts, and military. It was a Washington coup. As well as complete control of the media by leftists. Whatever Trump would have done would have been denied and or spun.



DJT has 4 years to clean house, and he flatly refused. He kept himself surrounded by the DS, so this was the natural outcome. I'm sure the DS was very concerned early on, but once they realized DJT wouldn't replace them, they dug in and fomented this coup.

Excuses, excuses, excuses...DJT could have sent loyalists to the FBI with the orders to keep rolling heads out the front door, and that would have happened. CIA...DOJ...DOD...etc. He never fumigated the senior executive branch, and it eventually fumigated him.

The president doesn't actually do much in terms of operations. His job is to put people in positions that will, and in that sense DJT was a failure. HIs signature entertainment line of "You're fired," was rarely used.

That, and putting Jared Kuchner in as an advisor doomed his presidency.

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Diversity + proximity = WAR
Until bullets fly and people die, nothing is going to change.
The level of abject evil afoot in our world is well beyond everyones normalcy bias. It is incomprehensible.
That kind of sums up the last month since the election, a giant amber alert for Trump's balls. -
Raftermanfmj
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It's amazing that at this point Trump still has followers; even the slowest should realize by his non-action on 95% of his pledges that he's an open fraud. And if you look into his history, his sponsors, his bloodline / ancestry, who he really helped during his 4 years (Hint: It's a tiny country in the Levant) then you'd realize he was part of the scam from day 1.

He was there to draw out the Nationalist vote, divert them into a safe and controlled channel like a lightning rod. He also served to help identify the rightists, and slurp up their capital in the form of donations. You think him encouraging the right to show up 6 January then abandoning them was an act of cowardice? It was intentional. Trump is a literal Judas Goat

I'm going to guess the average age of posters here is 65 by your general inability to recognize the Nation fell some time ago, to an foreign, cosmopolitan race that you all enabled for your own material gain. It can be hard to recognize your own culpability but since so much weight is placed in historical quotes here's one for you:

"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we lose our freedoms it will be because we have destroyed ourselves from within." Allegedly said by A. Lincoln

You've allowed this country and ALL it's controlling institutions to be infiltrated and over-run by an alien tribe. A tribe that is but 2% of the population and that openly advocates for your impoverishment and destruction. And that has carried out it's genocidal agendas many, many times historically And many of you still celebrate it, genuflecting and reciting your shibboleths out of habit, ignorance, and fear. The only good news is the Day of the Pillow is nigh, where many of you will be smothered to death by your Somali nurse while the children you cannibalized ignore your passing.

"Had that happened we'd all be speaking German (or perhaps Japanese!) today and Israel would not exist"

Ask anyone under 40 if they'd take that trade ... Most everyone I know would. At least the Germans and Japanese cared for their own blood and nation. And what's with boomers and the worship of Israel? USS Liberty? Johnathan Pollard? Who did Epstein work for, and who controls the politicians he compromised? What is wrong with you people? Oh and this reminds me - look at who Trump pardoned. Go read about it.

One stands out as most illustrative - in a multi-million dollar swindle there were 3 convicted. 2 Jews, one goy. Trump pardoned 2 of the 3. Can you guess which 2? Again, unless you willingly serve evil, what's wrong in your head that you cannot see the hilariously, blatantly obvious? Has pattern recognition been bred out of you?

Even now the Biden admin has around 14 of 15 posts occupied by a race that is but 2 percent of the population. And a race that is, and has always been, inimical to Whites, to Christianity, and to whatever nation it infests. Kicked out of 100+ nations, again, where is your pattern recognition?

I fully expect the vax / unvaxxed duality to be exploited into a system of concentration camps and gulags for non-takers and a replay of the slaughter of Russians, as the same people and ideology is in charge, but then again maybe that take is an optimist's. Doesn't matter; I'll not be attending camp. Sad that I have more balls than seemingly most of you.

Now that I've expended a rhetorical broadside (assuming this gets published) I'm going to spend this rainy Western PA morning stacking my Duolingo Latin American Spanish with the Rosetta Stone version to follow. I would really rather be speaking German, but you've chosen to allow a hostile race to import and infest this country with 50,000,000 invaders from the South and people like me have to live in the world you've wrought.

And so will your kids, and grandchildren. Although they'll be picking up Mandarin as they pull a ramshackle rickshaw down litter and debris covered streets.

And if you want to find out who is responsible for the ending of this nation - go look in the mirror.


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Bodhi
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I hope for the 2020 election scam to be revealed. I hope for the Biden administration to be investigated for its abject dishonesty and lawlessness.


Investigated by who? The FBI under the auspices of the Dept. of Just-us? I trust gas station sushi more than I'd trust the FBI to run a credible investigation.

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If Trump were gonna be worth a **** he would have fired every general, us attorney and political appointee made by his predecessor on day ****ing one.

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Garrett
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My money is on the 2020 "election" being theater, and Trump is basically an actor (he was reality TV star, after all). The election was obviously fraud, just as the vex is obviously not a vax. The voting fraud theater seems aimed at two objectives:

(1) Flush out Trump and "troublesome" supporters (they will go on various lists and/or be imprisoned); and

(2) Create a monster (BLM, antifa, etc..) that will cause a plurality to embrace military rule. Note: all purity spirals (the SJW nuttiness we see) are eventually stopped by strongmen (Stalin, Mao, etc...).

The real powers pulling the strings never permitted democratic rule and have always preferred the efficiency of strongman rule. I refuse to take part in this theater (just like professional wrestling). People should direct their energy into where it can make a difference: family, neighbors, and city.

Responsibility flows from power. At the national level, the script has already been written. Because we have no real power at that level, we have no real responsibility.

Investing any hope into these actors is, at best, fruitless; at worst, a trap. Don't take the bait and remember this: "If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment." -Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
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How could anybody born before 1980 think this cold war wasn't going to go hot within our lifeime? I mean...really.

Right on schedule, cheating or not, Trump or Biden, right on schedule.
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Some time ago, an American told me, after a debate about the German history, that "Every people have the government they deserve". I remember it stinging.

Welcome to the club!

Going all in with a CRT spouting military?

You've got to be kidding.

Trump actually did you all a favor. He made it possible to see who you are as people, no different than all the others. The reason for that is called Gene Pool.

I don't give a ... if you are offended or ban hammer me. My satisfaction isn't this post, it's where you have finally arrived.
Tickerguy
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Why would I ban hammer you for that It's true

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Hanssachs
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"Entirely possible that was the right call but then you shut the **** up, tell everyone else to ****ing stand down and that you lost."

I hadn't considered this perspective. If you're just going to point out a problem and not propose a solution, then shut up. I believe this in small things, and it ought to hold for large as well.

I can forgive Trump for pointing out the obvious steal and for chickening out on action. What's unforgivable was 1) luring all those people to DC for January 6th, knowing the sorts of traps the FBI loves to run and 2) after the debacle not issuing a blanket pardon for anyone not engaged in violent actions. His supporters are going to be crucified.

As a secular idol, we recall Talleyrand: "A secular cultist who was failing to attract adherents asked Talleyrand what he should do: 'I would recommend you to be crucified and rise again the third day,'"
Uwe
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Mjc wrote..
Trump must be the cleanest businessman to ever live other than Tickerguy.

I doubt it. I think it's far more likely that there is some kind of unwritten rule or policy in the agencies comprising the deep state that prevents them from prosecuting former presidents, or former first ladies who ran for president, for that matter. James Comey kinda spilled the beans during the summer of 2016, when he was questioned regarding Hillary's Congressional testimony. Paraphrased summary: "Yes, she violated a number of laws as SoS and then she lied to Congress about it, but no prosecutor is willing to pursue it."

Why might such a policy exist? It goes a long way toward preventing the kind of unrest South Africa is currently experiencing in response to the arrest of their former President Zuma.

Now one might argue, "But they actually want unrest!" Yes and no. They only want a certain amount of it, from people who are no threat to them...

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I have been directly involved talking to the Senate and throwing ideas at them. They ballot remake has a lot of the things that I though necessary in order to stop the ability to copy, steal or conceal and the democrats would get their a**** handed to them if they can't commit fraud.
The 2020 election was a major fraud in every way and if what the auditors found is true, then Biden and kelly are most likely illegally in office.
The Board of supervisors has refused to give the Senate several very important things that would only verify if the election was real or stolen. The Chain of custody documents will show if the ballots counted are real or fake. They refuse to hand over the envelope images with the signatures. This again will prove which mail in ballots are real and which are not.
The entire state government seems like they were paid off except the AG. We are now going after him to sue the county for the rest of the data. Found this link to give you a list of some of things found:

https://redstate.com/stu-in-sd/2021/07/1....
Rsilvetz
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Trump had the lawful authority to clean house, but not the factual on-the-ground authority, because the Enemy had a vote. My few DIA remaining contacts remain adamant that Trump did not stay in Office because there was an unmitigable threat to the Country should he have chosen that route.

Having said that, it was obvious to a blind man that the Election was stolen. Who stopped the counting, in violation of Federal Law? How many States with impossible statistical runs at 3 a.m.? The absurd Catch-22 rulings of judges on latches and standing? Open Treason by Pence? Open Treason by the Supreme Court?

And what about the fantastic work by Dr. Doug Frank via Mike Lindell? Provably showing that multiple States used the same polynomial, possibly in an Excel spreadsheet, to generate their Election results?

And then there is the rumor of the existence of the 34 terabyte network traffic snapshot of the Election. What if true? A forensic exam will lay everything bare.

And no, just because there isn't a procedure to walk back the Election, doesn't mean it won't be walked back. We are a shade away from having the same outcome in GA and PA that we have in AZ. At some point the Biden Admin will suffer a Constitutional Crisis of illegitimacy, possibly as early as August 10th.
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