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2021-07-11 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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The End Of Competence
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It's over folks.

You've seen it with Fauci.

You've seen it with the CDC in sworn testimony that was clear bull****, either maliciously-so or due to incompetence.

Now you're seeing it in the cadre of teachers the administration is promoting.

The Biden administration announced a plan to extend tuition breaks to future teachers and do away with GPA requirements for grant recipients to increase access for students of color.

You couldn't possibly do a more-stupid thing than remove the requirement to actually succeed in college from the granting of privilege to those who want to teach our children.

The plan also aims to increase access to the program by removing the grade point average requirement ....

Ah, so you no longer have to be able to learn, say much less teach, to become a teacher.

We wonder why our nation's public schools, especially those in underserved areas that this program targets, are incapable of making change for a $20 in their head or even on a piece of paper -- or composing a basic business letter using proper English?

Joe Biden not only is perfectly ok with that he's expanding the number of incompetent people teaching your children, on purpose.

To minority parents in underserved areas: Why do you let this ******* infest the White House when he is directly screwing your kids?

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Hey, a "zero point zero" GPA was good enough for me :-)

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It is not just lack of competence. Most people just don't give a crap anymore. I call it "not giving a s**t" syndrome.

It seems like just about anytime I deal with someone, I need to babysit them to make sure it gets done correctly.

AC not working in an area at work. I have to call it in multiple times.

Pay someone to pressure wash the sidewalk. They "forget" to do a couple of sections.

When I order something online, I put "please do not require signature for delivery" in the comments section. Guess who got a nice Fed-Ex sticker on the door yesterday? And don't get me started about how hard it is to get a freakin' human on the line to fix it (I still have to go to the FedEx store to pick it up)

And so on.

The frightening part is that I cannot physically oversee everything in the chain. So how many mistakes are being made that can't be caught?

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You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end -- which you can never afford to lose -- with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be. VADM James Stockdale
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Speaking of the education system, they spent in 2019 (I'm sure it is more now), $12K per student. 20 students per classroom equals $240K per class per year.

Where the hell does the money go? Nobody asks. Nobody cares.

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You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end -- which you can never afford to lose -- with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be. VADM James Stockdale
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Students in High School are already graduating with GPAs over 4.0. College has ridiculous grade inflation. And now neither GPAs nor SAT/ACTs will be used to determine entrance eligibility? How is that supposed to work out for either the students or the teachers.

I guess there is now only one requirement. What is your skin color?
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@Blanca - And yet standardized testing has kept increasing. Not sure how a leftist "rationalizes" that with "Grades Don't Matter!"

Society dissolving into sound bites.
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Sacrificing out children on the alter of diversity.
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This doesn't surprise me at all. The lefty lunatics in Oregon recently passed a bill that high school students for at least the next 3 years no longer have to prove proficiency in reading, writing and math to receive a diploma.

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The Teachers have had the lowest graduating GPA for decades, Its nothing new. My daughter(4.4 gpa) changed her major from medical to education but only to insure the right of being able to stay at home and teach her own army of kids. No, They had no chance of re programming her because i taught her to THINK and analyze with logic. My grand kids can go up against most 12th graders by the time they are in 7th grade.
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I went to school in the late 70's through the 80's. The women elementary teachers were still some of the brightest women, as many of those teachers were educated in the 60's when opportunities for women were still quite limited. Try pointing that out to women now, and you get looks that would kill. Ask me how I know. I don't point point it out to say we should go back to those times, but just to point out the truth of the situation. Many of the college educated teachers today never would have been admitted to the teacher colleges of the past. And now, it looks like Biden is going full clown world, dropping the already low standards.
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There is: knowing what to teach, knowing how to teach, both, and neither. It looks like the current administration has chosen neither.

Flap

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The state of NY dropped the language arts proficiency requirement for teacher candidates in an effort to achieve staff diversity. Too few non-white candidates were able to pass the exams. Solution: drop the exam if not subject-specific. Diversity trumps competence in NY schools. Some narcissistic innovator decided kids learn best from people "who look like them." Students learn best from people who know their subject and can communicate effectively. A retired teacher, now substituting in NY, I witnessed first hand, kids being mis-educated by an army of incompetents.
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Once again, we are hiding the biologically driven, differential cognitive ability in the wonderful "Diversity" we are importing.

Bakke v U of C Davis wasn't good enough.




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Teaching is only one of the professions where competent people are in short supply because too many qualified people don't want to put up with all the BS they would have to put up with.
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I can't resist:

Go to youtube and do a search "animal house zero point zero"

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The Chinese have to be laughing their asses off over this.

Private companies are getting into this as well. Like United Airlines with their pledge to hire more minority pilots. Or medical institutions that promise to increase the percentage of minority doctors. The cockpit and OR are two places where you would want hiring done on pure merit simply because your life depends on it. In the near future, you will work around this by avoiding certain airlines or hospitals.

I remember years ago Jerry Pournelle writing about this on his blog about there being a hospital in south central LA that the police union stipulated in the labor contract that no cop injured in the line of duty was to be taken to that hospital, even if it was the closest one, because of the known incompetence of the staff there.

An ideocracy is one possible future.

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Things that are bad seldom become anything other than worse.

This is nothing new. It got bad in some areas long ago, and, like most cancers, spread.

Question: why did not all of the high standards educators decades ago get up and walk out over the lowering of standards and other bull****? The society would have worshiped them.

The education system was never all that good. Even among the professionals there were serious problems in many markets going back to the sixties, and not just in the underprivileged areas.

I know plenty of people who lived in and around the lily white areas of my community in the fifties and sixties who can spend hours discussing how little they learned, how educators simply passed them as long as they showed up for attendance and then left, junior and high school both, no academic standards, etc. Why? They did not need education or even shop class for that matter. There was so much work around and angles to get a business going that no one ever felt the consequences of failure.

There were technologies not released or continued by our manufacturers in this same and later era because the technical employee base did not have the chops to understand it and service it. This is based upon direct, first-hand reports of multiple people known to me along with corporate reports.

Did you know that the scourge of grade inflation started with the WWII generation and the GI bill.

The whole concept of a standardized college experience open to the great masses is a relatively new concept. Once things become standardized and open to all, there is always a least common denominator problem.

See, it goes back further. It used to be that a working person usually completed eight grade, some not that far. In my extended family (people old when i was very young) i had contact with people who completed fifth which was an acceptable milestone in my market for people who would work in sweatshops. Writing and grammar ability better than college people today, common math and tool geometry no problem. Beautiful cursive writing, perfectly punctuated. In my step family had Italian relations who might have somewhat broken English, came here as teenagers, only had time for third grade (yea, you read it correctly as to grade and BTW they never had schooling in their poor communities in Europe.) then off to work but would in the 1980s occasionally have to go to a bank in the modern era or have contact with "educated" people who would think that they were university people. Often this occurred when a handwritten letter to a bank was read by said staff. So much for English as a second language.

What would fix this is if we went back to doing a better job with less time in education.

The boom times (NOT a criticism of the boomers themselves) took away incentives for people to hold themselves to standards, and the education professionals who people here say were the good ones threw their hands up and played the game.

It seemed to me that the game was to teach less and less so that students would be forced to go to college. In pre-high school if you get my fellow students into the same room, they will all say the same thing that it was an exercise in keeping students busy and repeating the same stuff over and over. Many found themselves desperately behind if they went to somewhat better, let alone so-called honors, high schools.

Everyone that i know who went into public, private and parochial school teaching did it for a few reasons. They wanted the lifestyle, could not do anything else, hated people in general, or had some superiority complex. Often these in combination. The biggest bully *******s in college were the ed majors in a community where my private college specialized in filling the market and had a department that could make things happen in the system for the students. They were that connected.

Interesting note, the biggest *******s who wanted to be teachers would work in the worst neighborhoods. They would tell me that there was no way that they were ever going to be held to any higher standards. This is a little secret with much govt inc work. The worse the situation, the less one is accountable. With these teachers, they formed alliances with the students so that their cars were not stolen and they were not knifed. Really great lives they had. FYI, many times the neighborhoods were not black as bad neighborhoods come in all colors here, really bad that is.

Said it here before. The problems with everything: union excesses, govt inc, dysfunction, here teachers, were all started and got bad with white people, some white people. Blacks are merely getting in on the game at the end of the line having figured out how it worked. One has to have met some of the dumb-ass whites in education to see that it is nothing new.

This is partly why in the 80s and 90s there was this worship of European students who displaced a lot of industrious American students. They could go to college and even honors high schools and be able to handle the coursework. The ed industry gave up on their home ground student base. A decade or so later when Europeans stopped having a reason to come here seeking to be educated professional, the standards would inevitably be dropped in the last remaining holdouts. Now we only get Euro-trash.

At this point in my life i am only sorry that i did not join big ed or something similar.

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Its fascinating to me that despite the elevated levels of intelligence and success of this boards average denizen yinz still deny these actions are just incompetence and mistakes rather than deliberate malevolence

The good news is I suppose, that the majority of those that cannot see it (for they enabled and promoted it) are Boomers and with every passing year more pass away gently into that good night.

Im 90% sure the current younger cohorts and the generations yet to come will curse your names, salt your graves, and erase you from history. And doing so will be just, and righteous

All hail the Day of the Pillow! Deus vult!

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Serious Question:

My nephew is fat, non-motivated high school kid. He does not play sports or even watches it. All he does is play video games and complains. He is getting B's in his classes though. He has no interests other than making video games. I tried teaching him coding, gave him kid videogame projects kits, but all of them were never touched. Hell, I even bought him beginning flight lessons (pilot school) at the airport that he never went too. (What f'in kid wouldnt want to learn to fly?!?!) His parents are pushing him into college but they aren't paying for it and pushing his grandma/grandpa to help pay for it. Any tips how I can make sure my parents avoid this train wreck? Any occupations to suggest?
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Why don't we just do away with any and all college degrees, certifications and licensure? An entire society is being sacrificed at the altar of diversity, inclusion and equity. As for intent, whether it is a matter of incompetent or a matter of malevolence, we arrive at the same place. Do you believe anyone will be held responsible/ accountable even if it were malevolence? At this point (and it has been this way for some time), I think the only responsible options are either home schooling or a very carefully chosen private school.
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Teacher?
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Looking at Biden's career before Obama I can't help but wonder if his plan now is to feed the black community as much as their own poisons as possible in an effort to further destroy them. He never truly succeeded in pushing and opposing the agenda as a younger man.

Unfortunately it has the effect of poisoning ever community and destroying every other group. It's worse than a mutual suicide pact as everyone else didn't sign up for it. Biden doesn't give a damn about anyone but the Bidens.

Look at the bright side. The Chinese/foreign spies will no longer have reasons to attend American universities.

Schools that allow this should be boycotted. They can not survive at this time on government money alone.

Next teachers/professors will be giving grades on how they "feel" a pupil is doing in a course vs any earned merit.

How long before Americans that want a real education leave in droves to learn overseas?

Welcome to the new incompetent South Africa in America.


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My Step Grandfather went to Georgetown University in the 1920's. The tuition was $250.00 per semester. He came from a very poor family and they didn't have the money to send him. He took it upon himself to move to DC and find an apartment. He found a job and put himself through Georgetown with no loans or debt. He went onto law school and received his JD.

My Dad was in a position to pay for my college education. However, he wanted me to have a stake in the game. He covered my undergraduate tuition (graduate was on me) and I had to pay for everything else. Too make it easier I stared in a community college. When I transferred to the 4 year school and lived on campus, I worked and had a work scholarship job while in the 4 year college. There were some other stipulations in this arrangement. One was he only pay for a class once. If I failed or dropped a class, I paid for it the next time. I had $7500 in loans when I graduated. Paid them off in 3 years.

The total cost of my college education was 140% of my first year salary out of college. My oldest is now in college and I made the same deal. My goal is my kids are able to graduate with little or no debt. One of my stipulations is their educational major provide a was for them to make a reasonable living.

This whole find your passion and go for it only works if it puts a roof over head and food on the table. You can do your passion, but have a job that covers your living expenses until your passion can pay for you and itself.

This is why we have all these young adults having the time to attend Antifa & BLM rallies. Mommy & Daddy foot all the bills. When you don't have to worry about the roof over your head and food on the table you can go and act like a fool courtesy of Mom & Dad. Those that don't have the Mom & Dad trust fund use their student loans to help fund their exploits. Add to this there a the George Soros' of the world that help fund these useful idiots. I am sure there is a lot of taxpayer money involved also.

The average working class stiff can't just stop what they are doing and hop a bus and protest unfairness. So their side is not as well heard or seen. When they do have the opportunity it is turned against them like the January 6th protest. Now 400 or so are being held as political prisoners in solitary confinement with no charges filed and denied bail. I am not saying there weren't Jan 6th protester who didn't break the law and should have been prosecuted. Meanwhile the thousands of felons from the Antifa and BLM riots are being let go and not even being charged. Truly we have a two tiered justice system. Before the powerful and politically connected were treated better than the average person. Now it is based on your political ideology. A conservative, libertarian. and/or Republican seems to have the book thrown at them. Meanwhile the socialist, marxist, and/or Democrat are getting away with felonious behavior up to and including murder.

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Superdude:

I have some friends who have a 17 year old son, who basically fit the description you gave of your nephew. They said no more video games unless you get a job. They talked to the front of house manager at the local watering hole and secured him the position.

He was hired as a busboy, at $8 an hour. In the past two months, he has become a completely different person. Has been exposed to bussing, food running, and last Monday was his first day hosting. Monday was the day the roughly 135 seat bar decided that they should run with one bartender, one host, one waitress and a manager and wound up 80% full at 1:00 in the afternoon. He was doing all three roles, and doing them well.

I estimate that he needs to lose an additional ten pounds before the 20-year-old smokeshow waitresses are willing to sleep with him.

Completely different person. Seems to love it.
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