@FrankPHD:

With vaxx nuts, I typically will say how wonderful I think it is that people worried about COVID can take the vaxx and not have to worry any more. Too bad for those unvaxxed who have to face the dangers of COVID; I hope they know what they're doing. Concern trolling then about how glad I am that I, personally, did not suffer any of the severe side effects of the vaccine gives them the impression that I took it when I wouldn't if it made me crap gold nuggets afterward.

Statins are an example of a wonder drug, for some people, expanded to the general population for profit reasons. As I wrote KD, I assumed that's what the vaxxes were about: critical protection for old, fat, hypertensive people, and unneeded for most people but not harmful. Developed before the Nature paper on spike protein toxicity. Now we know better, but no one will shut it down. The lying and the ignoring of all standards tells me this is larger than a few pharma dollars.

Your doctor friends may eventually come around. Until the invention of antibiotics, it was doubtful whether physicians actually added any quality-adjusted life years; civil engineers, who got the parasites and cholera out of our water, did much more. With medicine still following art, not science, and with medical doctors pushing the vaxx, they might again tip into killing more than they save.

@Heartlander:

Don't think most converted to Islam only at the point of the sword. Islam replaced Christianity in the regions of North Africa that had been reconquered by Justinian from largely Arian Christians. Islam is probably closer to Arian Christianity than Orthodoxy is.

Hilaire Belloc listed a few reasons for conversion. The chapter is worth reading:
http://www.clerus.org/bibliaclerusonline....

To quote: "But winning battles could not have made Islam permanent or even strong had there not been a state of affairs awaiting some such message and ready to accept it.

Both in the world of Hither Asia and in the Graeco-Roman world of the Mediterranean, but especially in the latter, society had fallen, much as our society has today, into a tangle wherein the bulk of men were disappointed and angry and seeking for a solution to the whole group of social strains. There was indebtedness everywhere; the power of money and consequent usury. There was slavery everywhere. Society reposed upon it, as ours reposes upon wage slavery today. There was weariness and discontent with theological debate, which, for all its intensity, had grown out of touch with the masses. There lay upon the freemen, already tortured with debt, a heavy burden of imperial taxation; and there was the irritant of existing central government interfering with men's lives; there was the tyranny of the lawyers and their charges.

To all this Islam came as a vast relief and a solution of strain."

Tell me if that middle paragraph doesn't sound a LOT (hell of a lot, actually) like today.

@Frankphd

Interestingly, there's a statin in the FLCCC's treatment protocol for hospitalized Covid patients. I don't remember the pharmacological mechanism of action, but with the FLCCC, you can bet your life it is only in their protocol because they have found that it works.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19....

@Frankphd

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admitted their view is biased because they see Covid patients directly.

Yeah, so they've seen people suffering and dying from DENIAL OF EARLY TREATMENT, which they are both complicit in. Crocodile tears. Sorry to be harsh, but it's the truth.

Early treatment, universally adopted, would mean nearly NOBODY dying of this fucking disease.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19....

https://aapsonline.org/covidpatientguide....

By the way, if empathy and "muh feelings" are going to dictate your physician friends' treatment policies, have they had any vaxx casualties among their patients yet?? If not, they certainly will. Perhaps then they'll change their tune.

@Hanssachs

I rejoice for you that you have sane parents!! Wish I could say the same... :(

Might I suggest that YOU suggest to them that they follow the FLCCC's preventive protocol if either of them has ANY risk factors, including obesity.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19....

The Vitamin C, Vitamin D3, zinc, and quercetin are good ideas for EVERYONE, and melatonin for everyone over 50 or so. Vitamin D3 is especially important for older folks, and crucially important for EVERYONE, of EVERY age, who lives north of the 35th parallel, from October to April.

Side note: Shocking to many, but most people we think of as "chubby" or "fat" are actually obese, and most people we think of as "obese" are actually "severely obese" or "morbidly obese." It's all about those BMI numbers.

Yep.

My protocol all last year and through the winter was:

Vit-C/Vit-D/Quercetin/Zinc.

I was exposed more than a DOZEN times I'm absolutely certain of and did NOT get infected. I had antibody tests and was negative through the whole thing (I'm now out, oh well.)

These are all very, very low risk since they're nutritional supplements. Vit-D don't go crazy with as it is possible to reach a toxic blood level (and if you do its BAD); ditto with the zinc.

Vit-D is less of an issue if you get a decent amount of sun exposure in the summer, but a whole lot of people don't and if you've got long clothing on then you're not getting enough, period, never mind that outside of the summer months if you're anywhere north you almost certainly DO and thus even if insolation was sufficient, and it isn't, you're all covered up!

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Vit-C/Vit-D/Quercetin/Zinc.

That's exactly what I started doing when I was feeling sick this last April, after I started to suspect that I had something other than a regular cold or allergies. This one came with only two symptoms: (mild) shortness of breath and a (mild) dry cough. Nothing else...not the sore throat, sinus, and later lung congestion that I usually get. Was it the Coof-19? I think likely, but I didn't bother going to get tested. Since they were offering bupkis in the way of early treatment and I didn't want to be in someone's database, I didn't think it was worth it.

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Dr. Martin reduced: We are arguing what is in the media. This guy has the patents. The virus was released on purpose, likely under the guidance of Fauci and his American/Canadian cohorts and big pharma. They had patents on every piece. They already had the spike, which is THE bioweapon. Not Novel. They knew all about it for years, as early as 1999. This is a worldwide control and jab project, slavery at its highest. We know all about the treatments. We know the jabs are useless and dangerous. The assumption should be there is something going on other than disease prevention and treatment. Dr. Martin says there are no variants. It depends on where you start counting the gene sequence.THE ENTIRE MATTER IS A PACK OF LIES. They intend to kill or enslave the people of the world. You can call it a conspiracy theory. Start adding 2+2 and you have to conclude it is merely a conspiracy, more evil than any in history.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/vLqxzNzuy....

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The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith

Yeah but they are killing the wealthy nations with the mRNA jabs.

Poor nations can't afford or organize the rollout. They are reverting to drugs they know especially in tropical locations like ivermectin.

Does the Davos crowd just want to destroy the 1st world and it's military and let China walk in and take over?

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"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of

@Susanlauren

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granted, she lost her husband a year ago and just came up on the anniversary of his death

Just curious: Did he die of Covid?

Mann,

I listened to the Dr Martin interview. I agree, it's a real eye opener even foe those of us already skeptical. Interesting to add that McCullough agrees with Martin that the motivation behind the conspiracy is more than profit.

Lemon,

Yeah, I think that's part of the plan.

If so.... Dumb.

If you're not Han you will be dead.

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There is definitely something up. Maybe this belongs in the insurance thread.

I just got my homeowner renewal for our home out in the boonies of East Texas (my husband's family home we remodeled and plan to relocate to soon). This is property not medical or life insurance.

There is now a "Communicable Disease Exclusion TAA 530" which states:

coverage is excluded for:

- any liability provided by your policy arising out of the actual or alleged transmission of communicable disease;

- any loss, cost, expense arising out of any request, demand or order to test, monitor or clean up the effects of any communicable disease; or

- any loss, cost or expense arising out of any claim or suit by or on behalf of any government authority for damages resulting from testing for, monitoring or cleaning up the effects of any communicable disease.


"Communicable disease" is defined including but not limited to a bacterium, disease, parasite, prion, virus or other microorganism or any mutation thereof, whether deemed LIVING OR NOT.

Karl nailed it again: These insurance people are sensing a bad moon rising.

Yep.

Prion eh?

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The phrase "whether deemed living or not" is bizarre.

Also bizarre as the exclusion for losses for government to clean up the effects of any communicable disease. WTF?

Almost as if they know that spike proteins are shed in native covid infections, they are in 1/3 of cases, or from vaccinated people, which we are assured by the Big Brains does not happen.

Almost as if they know what hell will be unleashed with ADE this fall.

Almost as if they know what happens when you have leaky vaccines in the middle of a pandemic and let the virus figure out new ways to evade the immune system.

Lots of folks are about to be caught swimming naked.

@Heartlander,

Thanks for the link on protocol. I'll suggest they addquercetin, which I've been taking since before 2020. I'm prepared to fly to them in FL to bring the ivermectin they refuse to buy now. Hope I don't have to.

On BMI: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/201....

It's a scam. "In 1998, the National Institutes of Health lowered the overweight threshold from 27.8 to 25branding roughly 29 million Americans as fat overnightto match international guidelines. But critics noted that those guidelines were drafted in part by the International Obesity Task Force, whose two principal funders were companies making weight loss drugs. In his recent book Fat Politics: The Real Story Behind Americas Obesity Epidemic, political scientist Eric Oliver reports that the chairman of the NIH committee that made the decision, Columbia University professor of medicine Xavier Pi-Sunyer, was consulting for several diet drug manufacturers and Weight Watchers International."

I paid the homeowners renewal premium last month. I reread it and our policy did not have that clause for "Communicable Disease Exclusion TAA 530".

Prion, that is frightening, and on a homeowners policy. Something evil is coming.

@Lemonaid

I have wondered about that, too. A lot. Doesn't seem to square with the Davos crowd's usual contempt for poor black and brown people.

Did you see the news that Indians are going for the death penalty for after the Indian WHO honcho for denying people ivermectin?

Interesting to see you mention Prion Karl. I've found it strange that several people over the past few months have flipped-out on planes and tried opening the door mid flight! One was an off duty flight attendant with Delta.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa....

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The phrase "whether deemed living or not" is bizarre.

Not really. Strictly speaking, viruses are not living things.

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Bluebird wrote..

I paid the homeowners renewal premium last month. I reread it and our policy did not have that clause for "Communicable Disease Exclusion TAA 530".

Not necessarily evil; it could be just covering their own asses. I did some quick Google-Fu and it seems like this started happening late last year on some policies. My first impression was that the insurance companies are trying to cover themselves in case people start getting all sue-happy because "z0mg I caught teh covids at a party at the Smith's house!"

I could be wrong and often am, however.

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We're fucked. There will be no happy ending here; there is no going back to 'normal.'. There are only bad outcomes and worse outcomes. And we don't get to choose those, either.

Well, yes. Except for.... prions.

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5G warfare. 2 Ccp colonels wrote itin 1999 after watching what the US was capable of in the first gulf war. They knew they couldn't win a 3g kinetic war with us so they decided on total war instead to start. You're seeing it now play out.

there was more money made on patents
https://odysee.com/@FwapUK:1/A-manufactu....