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2021-06-10 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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Yes, Bush Too....
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Tell me again about "Bush" and how wonderful that dynastic, pig-headed family are...

The George H.W. Bush Foundation for U.S.-China Relations agreed to accept $5 million from a group with ties to the Chinese Communist Party and China's international propaganda efforts, according to a report Saturday. 

Why is it that political figures seem to form" foundations" and refuse to go off into the day and live out their lives?  This seems to be a recurring theme eh?

Never mind the current interference from foreign powers.

Then we have Twitter, which has now had its CEO assert that access is a "human right".   This, after they banhammered a Nigerian politician (who apparently does not have said right) and the Nigerian government in return banhammered Twitter entirely.  Isn't it funny how "rights" are selectively applied based on who it is?  A thing that is a right cannot be denied by someone else, especially through extrajudicial process eh?  What 'ya you say about that, Jack?

Oh, and said "rights" are not necessarily equal either.  Twitter bans search, they hide replies behind "show more" buttons selectively, depending on who you are and what you say and more.  In other words there is no "right" respected by Twitter at all, just as there is not by Communist China.  Rather everything in these people's mind is a privilege for them to assign as they deem fit.

If Jack asserts that access to a free and open Internet is a right then he and his firm have no authority to censor anyone's speech.  Ever.  Period.  Only a court has the authority to do that, after due process of law, and only by throwing the offending party in jail.  Where is that line when does said "right" exist?  Arguably when you become a material component of the public square on a general basis, as Twitter and Facebook and a handful of others have.

Thus this must apply to Facebook, Youtube, Google generally (including their ad program) web hosting firms domain registrars and others.  Delineating when you cross that threshold is not all that hard; at the point you act in collusion or common purpose as all of these firms have you enter the room of your own free volition.

But of course Jack doesn't see it that way, nor do people on either side of the aisle.  The right claims "free enterprise" trumps free speech, even when monopolies come about and deliberately organize, which I remind you has been illegal for more than 100 years (15 USC Chapter 1) while the left claims muh raciss any time someone says something they don't like.

How do we address any of this productively?

Can we legitimately ban Communist speech?  Not if you respect the Constitution.  The First Amendment doesn't say except for Communists.  But unfortunately what we won't do is apply the existing body of law to those who collude.  Specifically, the so-called "Trusted News Initiative" and the now-documented interplay of Facebook and others with Fauci is a direct assault on said Constitution and First Amendment, which as soon as it touched a government agency entered the realm of violating the Constitution itself along with 15 USC Chapter 1 which fortunately has an existing criminal remedy: PRISON.

Throw Zuck and Jack into PYITA prison and watch how fast all this BS dissolves.  They have personally documented their own violations of 15 USC Chapter 1, and the interplay of their organizations and Fauci's NIH when it comes to Covid implicates the First Amendment directly on top of it, as The Federal Government has no right to direct or coordinate censorship.  Indeed such is blatantly unconstitutional, never mind when undertaken in collusion felonious.

We need no new laws; the existing ones work just fine, and no, there is no shield found in Section 230 either.

Handcuffs folks.

Now.

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The Department of Obstruction will never do anything that The Party approves of. May be States could file charges based on the Federal laws.
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Wish you'd have separated this into two tickers. One to pile on the Bushs and another for Jack. They both deserve their own space for a good old fashioned ocular penetration.

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We're way past the time when the law matters to the ruling class. Time was, once these guys made their billions they bought enough politicians to change the laws to their liking so no one can come along and operate in the manner that made them hideously wealthy. Jobs, Gates, Allen and Balmer would have all died broke after lengthy prison sentences if the laws, practices and regulations of today were in place in the 1970's and 80's. Now they don't even bother with that. The laws just don't apply to them.

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Wheres Obama getting the $700 M for his library? Who uses libraries? Most of these politicians are crooks.

Now we find out inflation is running at over 5%. No problem for the politicians. They just take more money from the Communist Party.
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You know what I think about all this? **** TWITTER!

Did you hear what I said? **** TWITTER!

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Presidential foundation = money laundering operation + tax shelter
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**** TWIITER!

And facebag
And instacram
And lamestream legacy media
And everyone contributing to their bottom line

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there were two bus presidents, bush the stupid and vapid and bush the Evil.
W was out starting massive bankrupting wars . naked aggression in destroying Iraq, and turning what should have been a punitive strike in Afghanistan into a 21 year long nation building exercise that is finally collapsing into utter failure now. Bush the evil basically thought his lifelong spook buddies from his time as head of the house intelligence committee chairman and then head of the CIA should run the world. see " points of light speech. and he laid the groundwork for NAFTA and china's entry into the WTO . Bill Clinton signed them in his first few months in office , but HW left them for him. Thank god trump spared us JEB!
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Ronald Reagan's greatest mistake was putting a bush on his ticket. He should've squished him like a bug.

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Tickerguy wrote..
. . . Handcuffs . . .
Nope. Without other major reforms in the process, handcuffs are almost meaningless.

Given that these miscreants have lots of money to buy virtually anyone in gov't (notably including prosecutors and judges), and the mostly political/favoritism/payoff/etc. related aspects of the pardon power, and the obvious failures in the "legal system" in the area of actual follow-through, e.g., suspended sentences, early release, paroles, etc., handcuffs will only solve the problem during the short interval between their arrest and until they get to make that phone call to their lawyers.

To solve the problem of these types of miscreants requires an uncorrupted legal system all the way to the point that the judicious application of needles, lead in the head, gallows, or other means with the same effectiveness is possible. Otherwise, handcuffs are a completely meaningless show.

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There is NEVER any accountability for these criminals. Everything just keeps getting worse!
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The Bush family has been in the pocket of the Chinese since Bush, Sr. was Ambassador to China over 45 years ago, They have also been in the pocket of the Saudi's for about as long. Check I bet they have had big donations of KSA for some time, payback for the Iraq War.

All of them are corrupt, now that is a good question on where Obama is getting his money for his library, same sources as the Bushes.
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Jackoff Dorsey and Mark ****aburger deserve to be ****ed in the ass by elephants for eternity.

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Prison is too good. Rusty chainsaw applied vertically through the crotch.

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You know we can't ban Communist speech, but we can ban communists and socialists, because they are contrary to the Bill of Rights. We can ban a whole lot of bull**** the government is doing, because it is contrary to the Bill of Rights. Truth in Labelling should be enforced against Facebook, Twitter, Google and others, where they censor anything contrary to the political aims of the people running the sites. These sites should be forced to post they support only totalitarian ideas, so others can beware.

White supremacists is a term they are using, for those of us who support the Bill of Rights. Don't buy the racist bull****, as it is damn hard to find any provable white violence against other races, in the USA. But, white men wrote the Constitution, which was separate, from the Bill of Rights and it allowed slavery. The Bill of Rights was there to protect us all, from the politicians and the Constitution that empowered them. Any actions, outside the defined boundaries, in the Constitution likely violate Bill of Rights protection and this is what they want to eliminate.

Ever since the Civil War and definitely since FDR, the government has been using emergency to violate the Bill of Rights. The only real protection in the Constitution itself was the prohibition against government bills of credit and the ban against making anything but gold and silver a tender in payment of debt. The protection against state sponsored inflation was supposed to be a limit.

I believe what we are seeing today is an intentional action by the elites to remove resources and freedoms from the western world to areas of the world where they can engage in inflation and utilize massive numbers of people to reap massive financial rewards. Facebook, Google and Twitter want to be able to play in those markets, thus they have adopted totalitarian actions. Global warming is part, of the scheme. Let China and Asia have the oil. We will use bicycles and flash lights, for when the lights go out. The virus is part of this scheme. This was a mouse, with a 1 million watt amplifier.

Back to the bill of rights. The FBI can make up a story, and, if you don't correspond with it, they charge you with lying to the FBI. I think it is under interfering with an investigation. How can they violate your 5th amendment under such bull****? They may be violating the 4th amendment to gain leverage to destroy the 5th. Where is their jurisdiction? Usually it is under the commerce clause (I was told by a friend Texas legalized suppressors by passing a law there was no limits on ones made and sold solely, in Texas, bypassing the Commerce clause). Then we have National Bank Credit, which was designed to continue the fraud behind bank credits and debits. What can't be done directly cannot be done indirectly, but they did. Socialism is a violation of the 5th amendment, thus why it is unlawful in the USA. You can talk about what you can't do. Look at how many crimes center on what you haven't done, but might do?

Destroying the Bill of Rights centers on not being allowed to talk about them destroying the bill of Rights. How much debate, over the last 15 months is really about stepping over the bounds of the Bill of Rights? No church. No questioning the fraud that has occurred, by politicians and fake experts. They have been using emergency to do this. They used 911 to pass the communist act, while at the same time subjecting the average American to search, while letting potential terrorist into the country. Now you have private oligarch and corporations doing the governments dirty work. Cancel culture? Vaccines? Masks? This model is fascism, which is why I use the term NAZI here so often now. What the hell else can you call a government/corporate terror campaign?

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@ Jack_crabb: With no Vaseline

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Word don't mean anything to Jack. Not you Jack_crabb, the other Jack.
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> handcuffs

I dunno... going by the sort of people these tech CEO types tend to be, Jack might actually enjoy handcuffs... if you know what I mean.
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Throw them in an American Club Fed?

Oh no.

Extradite Zuck to Israel and Jack to Nigeria. There they might actually get fair trials by people who see through their bull****.


Zuck, in particular, will learn how COMPLETELY UTTERLY ****ING SICK AND TIRED Israelis are of taking the blame for Wall Street's and Hollywood's bull****, never mind Silicon Valley's.
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