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Asimov
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Incept: 2007-08-26

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I don't believe any of this bull**** anymore.

Trust = zero. Matter of fact, trust == negative.

I'm LESS likely to believe it when "they" tell me.

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Thelazer
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Incept: 2009-05-11

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Whatever it is, you can bet.. we will never know the truth.
****ers, all of them!
Mannfm11
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I would think Nancy Pelosi could be a prime candidate.

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Edwardteach
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Incept: 2021-05-01

Here be dragons
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"Sent to an air-gapped hardware wallet and they can't be recovered."

There are ways to get into air-gapped computers. It just takes longer.

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Acebarefoot
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Karl wrote:

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Next question: "Know Your Customer" law applies to US custodians and exchanges. So who was it held on behalf of? "I don't know" is a bad answer by the way.


Absolutely!!!!! If we don't hear anything about who it was, then it is one of our government agencies, imo. It has to be. FINRA (rule 2090) will go after ANYBODY, without mercy. If they stand down on this one, we all know who it must be.
Redjack
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Incept: 2018-01-29

Iowa
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The official story is always a lie.

Maybe in small or large ways, but a lie.

BTC is traceable. That is one take away from this. Or it was an intelligence op with no intention of keeping the money.
Tdurden
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Yeah, smells like another FBI entrapment operation. We're supposed to believe that a completely incompetent political enforcement agency wrapped this up so quickly because they're just that good? Seriously? The only cases those *******s "crack" are the ones they cook up themselves and find some moron to push a button or call a phone number that is supposed to set off some bomb.

My next question is, was Colonial "hacked" or were they told by some clowns in Fedgov to let some fool plug in a thumb drive into a network connected PC? "We need your help in cracking this Russian hacker syndicate! Of course this national security letter means if you say anything to the press we're going to wreck your life."

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Bodhi
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"Sent to an air-gapped hardware wallet and they can't be recovered."

There are ways to get into air-gapped computers. It just takes longer.


Air-gapped hardware wallet, not air-gapped computer.

I've only followed cryptos for about a year. But I know that once the funds are on a hardware wallet (about the size of a thumb drive) it can be easily transported to another location. Also, with the advent of atomic swaps the BTC can be converted to other forms of crypto, at which point the trail dies.

The FBI is once again trying to convince the public of their competence, but this Colonial Pipeline episode is beyond pathetic. If the Russians were this stupid there would be no need to constantly persuade the American people that they are such a profound threat.

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Lemonaid
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Incept: 2008-01-20

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Decentralized atomic swap Dapp liquidity is low as far as I can tell.

Any ransom op would've had a non US domiciled exchange (multiple) targeted to convert the Bitcoin immediately.

Else, just park in an air-gapped hardware wallet.

This story is fabrication.

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Jadedamber
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Incept: 2019-07-30

Alexandria VA
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Only around less than half the dollar amount was "recovered."
Asimov
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Explain this. Note date.

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"The Darkside operator also reported that cryptocurrency funds were also withdrawn from the gang's payment server, which was hosting ransom payments made by victims," said Recorded Future.

While there was no evidence of who might have forced down Darkside's website, the twitter account of a US military cyber warfare group, the 780th Military Intelligence Brigade, retweeted the Recorded Future report on Friday.


https://www.barrons.com/news/servers-of-....

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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.

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Peterm99
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Incept: 2009-03-21

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Jadeamber wrote..
Only around less than half the dollar amount was "recovered."
Well, the TLA cretins have to cover their expenses somehow.

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". . . the Constitution has died, the economy welters in irreversible decline, we have perpetual war, all power lies in the hands of the executive, the police are supreme, and a surveillance beyond Orwells imaginings falls into place." - Fred Reed
Goldbrick
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If the perps walked away from the payoff, then they had to know they were being surveilled. Hmmm.

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Bodhi
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If the perps walked away from the payoff, then they had to know they were being surveilled. Hmmm.


BTC is now widely considered a surveillance coin. Doubly so if held on an exchange with KYC. That's why nothing about the FBI narrative makes sense.

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It is hopeless doing things for people, it is often very dangerous
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the race is to increase its stock of ideas. ~T.H. White
Jadedamber
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Alexandria VA
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The entirety of this administration will be 4 years of magical thinking in terms of "climate change". The whole pipeline hack is just but one of the many examples that we in the real world will be witness to. (Remember Texas?) And it's just staggering that the CEO IMMEDIATELY paid the damned ransom. This whole charade was just an exercise to see how we would react. And react we did here in the Eastern seaboard: lots of panic buying; gas pumps emptied out.
Lemonaid
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Zerohedge has a funny article insinuating the FBI's involvement smiley

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It was very painful to pay the criminals, but we did the right thing for our customers, Nogueira said Wednesday. It remains to be seen if the JDS CEO, like his Colonial colleague, promptly transferred the bitcoin to the FBI's hackers' digital wallet without advising the FBI (first for the simple reason that the FBI already knew the crypto was inbound?)



https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/here-w....

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"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved." Ludwig von Mises

Tsherry
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Incept: 2008-12-09

Spokane WA
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There is:

Nothing that I believe that comes from the mouth of a Federal employee.

A miniscule fraction of a percentage that I believe when I hear it from a State employee.

A single digit percentage from a local government employee.

Generally I listen to some of the tripe, and then do the opposite.

I'm pushing 61, it has worked out so far.



Tom S.

'Stay Away from Crowds.'

Cwatson1982
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Incept: 2017-05-07

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This was my whole issue with the original "Russia did it" DNC bull****. I have been out of the IT world for a long time but I did get a degree in netsec and had "experience" prior to college..There was no way any half assed competent state actor was going to leave evidence that could lead to "strong confidence" or really anything that would hold up in a legal manner

Then I read the report which contained no evidence beyond conjecture due to "similar tools and methods". In the physical world that's like assuming everyone killed with a 9mm was shot by the same person.

In my day serious attacks were launched through a chain of compromised machines located in places that don't share info. I can't imagine it has become less sophisticated since then.

I haven't believed anything the government has said about Russia since.

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