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Mannfm11
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My question is why did they suppress the obvious? This was a lot more than taking Trump down. Every head of state on Earth is going to eat a bowl over this one. The health agencies are criminal cartels, so it appears. Birx and Fauci are money Santa's. It is clear they ran an intentional terror campaign, likely to get many more billions to feed the kitty, Screw the rest of us.

Karl has a lot of Told You So. We are going to find this site has been among the best sources of information. Karl didn't figure all this out. It was written somewhere, he deduced the data and gave it to us. The Western Establishment suppressed the most important data and allowed these criminal demons to terrorize us. Americans should class action sue the media, including Google, Facebook an Twitter for trillions, on a conspiracy to run and continue a terror campaign of intentional misinformation. Is there any greater evidence than banning correct information, contrary to the official terror campaign? Included, should be managing shareholders of these companies. Jack and Suckabuck should be stripped of every dime, as should Mr. Amazon.

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IMHO the lid's coming off this bitch, and soon.


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Tritumi
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Send Fauci to PRC ASAP. orders: come back with all questions answered and all data in hand, or,
don't come back.
Mtdm
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Am I reading too much into the above? (From the Australian article)

To me, this focus on ADE suggests the bio weapon theory is eminently plausible.
Neonsignal
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Somewhat off-topic but related to the question about our general relations with China. I met today with a manufacturer's rep of several of our chip vendors, and discussed the topic of the massive supply problems we are having getting the parts to make our product.

He describes the situation as unprecedented, which seems accurate, but what struck me as interesting is he described how Chinese vendors had screwed the manufacturers he reps.

The Chinese chip packaging vendor they use tore up existing contracts and basically said they had no capacity, despite offers of higher prices, etc. .. no soup for you! He characterized it as "acting really weird". To me (tin foil hat wearer) this sounds like the CCP said stop selling to the people on this list.

The other example he had was pulling wafers promised under contract and turning around and selling them to the highest bidder. That seems like they are burning bridges without a care in the world, and if this happened to me I would be making a plan the next day to never deal with those people again.

He did not jump to the CCP angle at all, but I did. To me this seems like just more anecdotal evidence of CCP going to war footing. Our military production capacity is reliant on a lot of commodity chips that all go through (for example) a QFN packaging plant in China, that can be turned off like a spigot.

Is this all an effort to turn off the suppliers of commodity parts to the US MIC? Or a more mundane attempt to kill off the major non-China based semiconductor companies?

The story is "demand spike", but that's not a viable reason for destroying relationships by pulling supply contracts. It sounds more like they don't think they will need those relationships much longer.
Ugrev
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@Neonsignal they have us by the balls. Epic squeeze to provoke us into a fight.
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@Mtdm - 8 scientists based at the University of Minnesota, that might explain Michael Osterholm's odd behavior in all of this, that is ignoring everything he wrote in his book from a few years ago.

China most likely did not need the help/money of the west to conduct these experiments. Now it is possible some western knowledge helped speed things along. Having the Fauci's of the west on board certainly helps to keep the lid on what they are doing. Fauci and his friends are too arrogant to believe there is any downside to all of this, after all, they could care less if millions died. There lives were most likely unchanged the last year and they have enormously profited from the whole thing.

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China is a relatively corrupt country and Chinese people tend to be chaotic. I find it plausible that the CCP may not have, in fact, made SARS-CoV-2, or even known what was going on. Fauci and Co. clearly financed work in the Wuhan lab. There were also lots of foreign researchers working in that lab as well. Its possible that Fauci and Co. may have done this work on their own and the Chinese researchers may have been in on it as independent individuals, lying to their CCP minder about it all. Such corruption in a major research lab fits with the nature of Chinese society in that there is a relatively high level of corruption in general (their construction industry is notorious for it) as well as the generally chaotic nature of how Chinese people operate.

This scenario explains those god-awful videos coming out of Wuhan in February of last year. The Chinese authorities did not know which virus had gotten out and prudently assumed that it was one of the real nasties they are working with in that lab. It is known that safety was lax in that lab. It is certainly believable that official controls and reporting would have been lax as well. This is the kind of environment where corruption thrives and where it would certainly be possible for a rogue operation to do work on its own.

As you said previously, the "virology" and "public health" milieus are self-interested milieus up to their asses in all of this. It is not a stretch that they could have actually been in charge of much of the research in the Wuhan lab, doing unauthorized work under the noses of whatever CCP managers that were on site.

This is not to say that the CCP is a saintly operation. They are as far from saintly as can be. But it is plausible that all of this could have been done either without their knowledge or that it was a rogue sub-unit of CCP researchers and managers working with Fauci and Co. to do this work.

Remember, the key to a believable successful conspiracy is keeping it small in terms of number of people involved.
Purplefang
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I may have to resort to drinking whiskey instead of tea while visiting here.
Purplefang
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I admit I am way behind on the technology involved. Have we reached the point where researchers can effectively just "print" a new virus from their computer anytime they wish? Governments may no longer be able to control who is doing GOF experiments. With all the companies playing with the spike protein to make new vaccines could this toxic protein show up on a different virus that accidentally leaks out. I know the JNJ vaccine makes a new virus with the ability to make spike protein. This virus requires additional DNA in human cells to reproduce in the manufacturing process so final product can not reproduce on its own in a normal human. This whole mass vaccination could qualify as a GOF experiment. Could some other virus add on RNA from the "vaccines"?
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@Purplefang - The problem with ****ing with stuff like this outside of the proper environment is that the odds of scoring an "own goal" are quite high.

I can make a nuclear bomb if I have the raw materials. The material itself is not very dangerous; indeed, not really at all. You can hold a sub-critical ball of plutonium or uranium in your hand; no problem. Most of what it spontaneously emits is alpha, and your skin blocks it very effectively. The problem is that when I start machining the fissile material it makes tailings and dust. If I inhale any of that, well, sucks to be me because I'm going to die. Casting it is a possibility but again, fumes, dust, you get it.

Start working with viruses and the same problem is what keeps you from doing it. Yeah, you can try, but the lab necessary to prevent contaminating yourself and committing suicide before you finish is rather expensive. While in theory this can be done with "kitchen sort" of things like CRISPR the isolation problem is not easy or cheap.

P4 labs are not exactly something you build in your basement.

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P4 labs are not exactly something you build in your basement.

So youre saying somebody scammed me on Amazon?
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Heartlander
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With all of this known, Laura Ingraham was interviewing Rand Paul and he said he wasn't sure if Fauci had a criminal responsibility but definitely a moral one. WTF is that!

This infuriates me to my bone marrow. I physically felt my blood pressure rise upon reading this. I pray that God will send justice. I am not praying for that for some reward in the afterlife but for help now to assist us in dealing with this.

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Rickylc
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They are all in the same club, nothing will happen, Rand Paul is a s ball less as DT.

It's theater, to make you get the feelz. then you will forget when they roll out the next thing to get pissed about, and so it goes.

'til you die,

they want you dead.
Tsherry
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"I may have to resort to drinking whiskey instead of tea while visiting here."

uh, you mean you haven't been all along?

Bud, you have some catching up to do.
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A P4 lab is essentially a clean room like those used in semiconductor fabs. I've built one of those. They are not that hard, although a bit pricy. The difficult part is the entry and exit without letting the bug out. Semiconductor clean rooms are at slightly positive pressure, to keep the contaminants out. B4 clean rooms, on the other hand, are at negative pressure, to keep the bugs in. Needless to say, any virus that requires B4 facilities is not something you want to make in a home lab. That is if you are not suicidal.
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Of course there are many unhappy campers out there, and some of them may be suicidal, and have the money and skills to do stuff.
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@tickerguy

A thought--seen anything here or India maybe that would indicate HQC or Ivermectin help reinfections of those who get sick again after taking the unvaxx?

May be a ray of hope...
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@Dissenter - Those provinces in India that have started using Ivermectin have seen cliff-dive results in cases within a few days. Literally a few days. The one province that refused and went with Remdesivir on the other hand got a skyrocketing case and blasted hospitals, so..... yeah.

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@tickerguy

Sorry, keeping messages concise may be I'm not asking the questions well--

HqC and Ivermection have proven themselves against covid19 both here and in India.

Covid19 from emails and your beautiful reporting seems to have been enhanced at the spike.

MRNA vaccime uses that same spike and papers from Stamford and others point at the spike being the culprit.

Ergo I am asking if there has been any leading evidence you have seen that would suggest HQC/Ivermectin would work against the mrna vaccine or related complications as well and thereby making the vaccine projected impacts dramatically less than we fear?
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@Dissenter - Evidence that rises to something scientifically defensible, no.

Nor do I have any idea whether or not if used later on it would help down the road. My read of the science on this is that while it might be useful as a prophylaxis if taken at the time of vaccination for a couple of weeks thereafter, whether it would help after you get nailed if used then I have no idea. It isn't for example, known to be something that would be expected to treat blood clotting once it's happened. I would not expect it to work in that circumstance but then again I was surprised originally when it DID work against Covid (when I first heard of it I was deeply skeptical; the science at this point is very clear, however) so there you go.

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Luciab
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Dissenter. Please check out the FLCCC website for a discussion between Dr Kory and Dr Marik. Dr Maril has been jabbed twice which he regrets. Both Dr's take Ivermectin weekly now especially when traveling. I+MASS protocol.

They have also sent a letter to the Japanese Olympic committee offering this protocol saying that with it the games can go on. Let's hope the committee gets it.
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