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2021-06-02 14:41 by Karl Denninger
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So Biden wants to try to bribe, cajole and even canvass people to take the potential-death stab?

One word: No.

Four more: Get Off My Lawn

Why?  Because the evidence is that effective drugs were deliberately withheld and the safety of these shots is being overstated.  Between the two the risk:reward calculation for healthy persons cannot be established to clearly be on the "do it" side.  If you're old and morbid then it's tougher, but especially for young, healthy adolescents and adults the odds are minuscule of trouble if you get infected, they're even smaller if you immediately use medical countermeasures we know work and, in addition, because natural immunity is broad and includes the nucleocapsid portion of the virus (the vaccines do notit is much more-likely to be effective against any variations that may arise where the shots may either not work or worse, damage or destroy any existing natural immunity you have in favor of their "solution."

Since I'm in that group -- I'm a healthy adult and I have access to and will immediately use countermeasures if I think I'm infected, and have been successfully engaged in the use of prophylaxis for more than a year now my answer to such a solicitation is NO.  I have not lived in fear or apprehension since this started and I still don't.  Simply put the shot scares me more than the virus does.

This is not broad-based when it comes to vaccines in general; for most the data is in and the risk:reward benefit is clear, convincing and with the exception of extraordinary circumstances comes down on the side of taking the shot.  I've had 'em and so has my daughter, with damn good reason.

But specific to this shot and this virus it is not established and on the evidence never will be because I and everyone else have been lied to for over a year and we're still being lied to.  Under the basic rules of evidence once lied to every other thing that person says can, and probably should, be disregarded.  Ask anyone who's sat on a jury.  You cannot convince me the lies have ceased until and unless every single person responsible for withholding those treatments and drugs from the 500,000+ Americans who died, including the 175 here in my county, pay for those deaths with appropriate punishment for mass-manslaughter and all the data on all sides is out in the open.  In the case of the shots even if the lies are punished, and you know damn well they won't be to get the data on the shots will take many years.

Given the Fauci FOIA email release it is now conclusively proved that rat bastard has been lying since this whole thing started on masks, on transmission, on all of it.

That's bad enough but now we have something much worse -- now we're talking origins and intent, which China itself just put on the table.

China has recently said in their state media that the country must prepare for nuclear war following multiple calls, including out of Biden, for a Covid probe into the Wuhan lab.

Newsweek isn't exactly a "right wing" magazine you know.

Why would you be concerned about nuclear war unless you know damned well the probe, if you can't obstruct it, will prove you unleashed the virus -- not on accident by being stupid but on purpose?

An accident doesn't get you nuked.  It might get you sanctioned, it might get all your Treasuries incinerated, it might even get you embargoed with every firm in the US forced to pull out of there and return manufacturing and development to the US.  It might mean a cut-off of agricultural exports to China.  It could lead to any or all of those not just by the US but by other nations too.

It other words it might mean a lot of things and some of them you definitely would not like but it would not get you nuked.

But an intentional biological attack?

THAT might get you nuked.

And maybe it should.

What do you think China just admitted to folks?

There's this in the Fauci archives, which appears to describe exactly how Covid-19 was constructed.  Valid?  I don't have the chops to know but the apparent author is on Twitter and has authenticated it.

 

Oh, you think it's a good idea we have Biden in office?  Is that so.  He's not compromised with his son and their shady dealings over there, is he?  What if Xi told him to get people jabbed "or else" and the shots are the primer for the weapon?  Fanciful?  I would rate this tinfoil garbage and likely banhammer anyone raising it on my forum except for the fact of the Biden family being compromised with previous China issues, including billion dollar deals that Hunter made with no logical purpose other than bribery within our government.  Let me guess -- you think Trump isn't compromised by the CCP as well?  Then explain why he didn't actually pull a single bit of production back from China over the three years before the pandemic hit -- including, specifically, medical devices (e.g. masks) and drugs.

Maybe that will keep you up at night.

Still glad you got jabbed?

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Ok WTF is going on here? Everyday seems to peel away more layers of the onion. Is that Tweet authentic? If so, that cannot be ignored. Who is the person who sent it? That and China threatening nuclear war??? **** just got real!
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The person who sent that email is on Twitter and has authenticated it.

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Off Topic: This is my one month anniversary on this site and I want to thank you all for extending a warm welcome to a newcomer. I am glad to be here and I learn so much from you all.

On Topic: I can be a skeptic, cynic and pessimist, but even I would not go so far as to think the Wuhan lab COVID 19 virus release was an Intentional Bioweapon.

I have always assumed it was an accident. If China did this on purpose as an act of war against the USA, then we should nuke them from here to kingdom come.

To do something like that would be a whole other level of evil. Unthinkable.
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@Susanlauren - As I pointed out in an article that Google insisted I move over here as they didn't like the implications the potential for a binary weapon sort of thing is very real.

You have the first incident, maybe intentional and maybe not but known and foreseen, and you get your adversary to "tag" themselves with something that your NEXT round can target.

The second one kills a huge percentage of the people who have voluntarily tagged themselves, and mostly leaves your people alone.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=....

Impossible? Actually, it's the Holy Grail of bioweapons research and has been for 50+ years.

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You pointed that out quite a while ago. When it was discovered that the anti-bodies produced by the vax were different than the natural infection anti-bodies, that was enough for me to say no f-ing way to taking that poison.

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Yep.

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But specific to this shot and this virus it is not established and on the evidence never will be because I and everyone else have been lied to for over a year and we're still being lied to.


You know the court of law standard with regards to lies. If a witness is caught lying on the stand, the jurors have complete discretion in deciding anything that witness says is truthful or a lie. Since the medical establishment has been and is still lying to us, it is reasonable to assume that anything they say from now on or in the past is also a lie.

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But an intentional biological attack?


Assuming this is real, I don't understand how they thought they could get away with it. There are simply too many people involved in this, on our side, for someone not to spill the beans. Perhaps this twitter revelation should be considered a spilling of the beans.

What is more credible to me is that this is biowarfare. But that the insiders on our side (Fauci, Biden, etc.) were not involved. Back to your earlier theory that the medical establishment was totally on board with circumventing the Obama ban on GOF research in this country is clearly true. But thins may be more driven by legitimate research and shear arrogance on their part, as opposed to actual mal intent. The Chinese themselves (maybe 4-5 of them in the know) could have released this virus, then "graciously" giving us the hint of the spike protein (knowing full well our guys are too lazy to do their own f**king research), would then make the primer to "tag" our population. Then the Chinese (again, the same 4 or 5 individuals actively involved in this) could then make and release the "killer" version.

My conspiracy theory requires the intentional participation of only 5 or so individuals, all of them Chinese, with the unwitting participation of our guys (Fauci, Moderna and Pfizer staff, etc.).

What we need to determine is the actual level of involvement in the Wuhan work on the part of Fauci and others and whether they were aware that the ADE aspects of this coronavirus could lead to a two-step process of biowarfare. If the vaccines prime people such that a garden-variety coronavirus "cold" could take them out, then the Chinese don't need to do Jack-s**t for the die off to occur.

Hopefully the FOIA releases, both current and future, will answer these questions.
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I told you so - China is preparing for WWIII at ludicrous speed. Their sense of urgency and high alert could be explained away as fear of the Orange Man by biased analysts who are indoctrinated at left wing colleges, who drink a steady dose of leftist media propaganda. But once the Orange Man was defeated, and China still behaves as if they're urgently preparing for war very soon even my dense colleagues in government (who I often refer to as the slow people) got that sudden realization of the existential threat from China.

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If you look for an explanation you first ask - what have we done to warrant China maintaining its military forces on high alert and building up its military at panic speed? Then you inevitably ask, what might have they done that they think warrants a full blown war?

Meanwhile I saw CNN running more Q-Anon and Orange Man BS today, presumably so they can keep to their mission statement of being the Civil War News Network. The propaganda against the ****ing Orange Man is why China has been able to rapidly advance their agenda without the spotlight being shined on it. Future Fox "News" Alert - this is true about China, they did over the past five years and there's nothing we can do about it. Fox News - Giving You Yesterday's News Today
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A virus that is supposedly so deadly that gov'ts and large organizations must bribe and threaten people to get the "vaccine".

Using basic logic, one can easily deduce that if this truly was as deadly as we are being told, no bribes or threats would be necessary.

This same logic applies to lockdowns, if the virus was so deadly, people wouldn't have to be forced to stay in their homes. They would voluntarily stay home and not risk death.

This isn't the Bubonic Plague, where over 40% of Europe's population perished, this virus has killed a tiny, tiny percentage and those that have died the average age is around 78 or the life expectancy in the U.S.
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Why don't you ever hear anyone on the pro-vaccine, or for that matter on any side of the vaccine debate, address the fact that of whether China is vaccinating any of their citizens/subjects...

My guess is that they aren't which leaves open the debate about adversary tag in round two.
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@TickerGuy. Karl, Oh my God. I had no idea. I am chilled to the very bone. This is nothing short of mass murder/ genocide. These bastards would have to hold me down to inject me and that would be after they faced the business end of the arsenal my friends at Cabela's have equipped me with. If I die, I am taking as many of them as I can with me. No way in hell. I am beyond horror - so it was intentional. Oh my God. That means every single person who has taken the vaxx is marked or tagged for death. No words.
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Whew!! What the hell is going on?
This \virus is not what it looks like. I was giving CCP benefit of doubt that virus escaped by accident from testing. Now this. That tweet, mmm, all sorts of questions are being asked now. It seems to be unravelling in ways not thought of before.
What still puzzles me is the worldwide media/govt/official to crush any treatment and push only mRNA vaccines. China still is NOT USING the mRNA vaccine.
And the US govt and everyone in charge pushing vaccines by force if necessary.
Just the denial of treatment and pushing vaccine in concert every corner of the globe by every govt is alone to know something bigger is going on. Not sure what it is, but rather die than take this jab. Just need to double my ivermectin stash by taking a quick 2.5hr drive to Mexico border.
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Karl, if any of what this seems to be leading up to, turns out to be just 10% truth, you may have just saved a lot of us. Because I am not seeing any of this searching Google. So even the skeptics for this vaccine would get swept up in taking the jab.
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and excuse my bad english posts, dont proof read much of what I type before I press send.
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To me this seemed like another tipoff that the Chinese are preparing for war - they are now allowing 3 children per couple.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chin....

I've actually been wondering if they want to occupy an future empty US heartland for the food resources, having fouled their own nest.

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@Erroldo. valleyvet.com. green apple horse paste - the edible kind not the rub on topical kind - shipped directly to your home. We all love horses, don't we? We want to keep our four legged friends healthy, right? The horses love the green apple flavor. Follow the criteria and guidance on Front Line Critical Care MD website. Free shipping if you purchase above a set dollar amount. No need for a road trip across the US Mexico border (unless you want to do that). I hope that helps.
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So...how long before "Fauci didn't kill himself"?
I can think of a few more medical officers in various countries who need to not kill themselves as well.

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Thanks Susan. That was the 1st thing I bought on AMZN when Karl had it posted back in the fall here, green apple. Could not get human tablets then. I figured about a toothbrush dab size was enough for 1 dose. Since then I sourced some from India twice in human form tablets, and once I drove from Phoenix to Algodones MX, for dental and got some. No prescription needed and declared to border patrol coming back with no issues. But I will keep valleyvet in mind.
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I tend to agree with @Abelardlindsey that this might be a bioweapon and not an "accidental" release.

Stage One was a bioweapon that prepared the battlefield.

Stage Two is the more deadly bioweapon that will target those people that took one of the Covid "vaccines".

Probably doesn't take too many people to be in this type of conspiracy.

During Stage One, the conspirators figure that there is a decent chance the enemy will produce a vaccine that the Stage Two bioweapon can target. If the enemy doesn't, you at least learn how your enemy deals with a bioweapon and since only a few people are involved in the conspiracy, plausible deniability can reasonably be maintained.

However, if during Stage One, the enemy does create and then mass "vaccinates" its population with a type of vaccine that can be targeted, well there you go. You have the "Holy Grail" of bioweapons, one that kills your enemy's population but leaves yours unharmed.
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I think I'm going to throw up.
"IF" this is true...and it sure looks like it could very well be...
Aw hell my mind is reeling and nothing I'm typing is coherent right now.
I'll stick to lurker mode for a bit while I collect my thoughts.

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I would have appreciated this post on any other day but today. Birthday. All I wanted was to cut that tenderloin, open that very old bottle I've been saving and consume way to much of the giant chocolate cake my 10 year old daughter made for me.

Now I get to hash out if being this close to Tyndall puts me in the blast zone.

Happy ****ing Birthday to me. Your birthday card sucked!
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Those Tic Tacs better be real and controlled by Patriotic US citizens.




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During Stage One, the conspirators figure that there is a decent chance the enemy will produce a vaccine that the Stage Two bioweapon can target.

Far be it from me to dump gasoline on a good conspiracy theory, but wasn't the genome sequence that was used to develop these "vaccines" helpfully provided by china?

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