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Bodhi
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Heartlander wrote..
If I had an extremely at-risk loved one, and I truly believed the vax would prevent me accidentally transmitting to him/her a virus that could kill them... I'd be willing to put up with a couple days of misery.

That's what's so insidious. The psychopaths behind all this KNOW that they can GUILT us into everything from mask to vax "to protect others."


I am currently the caregiver for my 89-year-old dad. I have zero qualms about transmitting anything deadly to him. In my way of thinking he's lived a good long life, he's definitely on the downhill side of life with multiple health issues, and as the great poet once said, "No one here gets out alive."

The issue now is that my dad (Mr. Conservative) is suddenly demanding to get the jab as he thinks the covids would kill him if he got it. I point out that the numbers have flat-lined, and that the "vaccines" are causing more problems than the disease, but to no avail. I'm now basically in the tinfoil crowd as the media has told him that reports of adverse reactions are all lies and bull****. **** you, Faux News.

I've told my sister the situation and we're on the same page. If this is the way he wants to go out, so be it. I suppose it beats finding him in a heap at the bottom of the stairs because he's too proud and stubborn to use a cane.

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There is no need for conspiracy theory when blackmail, bribery and compromise work just as well - if not better. How many in government were on the Epstein Express? I am sure some alphabet agency has pictures that keep our politicians in line and voting "the right way." Please someone, tell me I am wrong.
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@Tickerguy:

I hope it speeds up. People who know what's going on know/hope it can't continue, but in the uninformed world, CDC's vaccine data page shows that 18% of 12-15s have gotten at least one dose, and some <12s are starting to get it, too.
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The assassination of Gaius Iulius Gaii filius Gaii nepos Caesar Imperator was a conspiracy consisting of at least sixty senators.
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Wow, @Susanlauren, we may have to petition our genial host to have your name changed to Jack_crabb2 or something. (And I don't mean that in a bad way.) smiley

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Susan wrote..
otherwise intelligent and educated people who have no capacity for critical thinking.

Yep, the entire system is set up to ensure that anyone who advances through our education system, up through higher ed to receive their certs/credentials/degrees are the most excellent of the "Excellent Sheep", as Deresiewicz put it in his book.

It's true. The best thinkers/troubleshooters (capable of getting at the truth) I've worked with in my IT career are all drop-outs. The degreed are mostly yes-men capable of climbing ladders in the corporate structure but useless when it comes to real work.

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I think that the people responsible for the suppression of Ivermectin should be sent to jail for the rest of their lives. And not cushy rich-people jail, I mean "for-realz-yo" poor-people jail!
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How did the whole PLANET get locked down? And why were the treatments that work suppressed instead of embraced? I even remember two plants that manufactured precursors for hydroxychloroquine being burned to the ground... within 24 hours of each other. Think of all the weird **** over this past year. Nobel Prize winners from France and Japan mocked and dismissed. A man in Australia being shot for not wearing a mask. Brazilian doctors being jailed for giving ivermectin to Covid patients. Canadian pastors being hauled off to jail for simply holding services. Weddings and funerals all over the world being busted and attendees punished.

Dr. Pierre Kory, in that interview with Bret Weinstein someone linked earlier, was saying that never in his 40 years of practicing medicine has a hospital administrator FORBIDDEN him to give a patient a drug. He was shaking his head in amazement.

Dr. Peter McCullough, in the video linked here the other day, talked about how there is no other illness or condition in the world for which the standard treatment guideline is: don't come into the clinic, stay home until you can't breathe, then go to the hospital. Then and only then will we deign to treat you -- when you're already half dead. He too shakes his head in utter amazement.


I have to admit this bothers me as well.

I just find it difficult to believe that so many people can be involved in something like this and literally NO ONE is spilling the beans. Usually I chalk this up to a group-think phenomenon. But this is a rather large group-think and one would expect there to be SOME dissension on the part of hospital administrators and other stakeholders with regards to this.

The suppression of Ivermectin on the part of hospital administrators could be nothing more than threats by the pharmaceutical companies to cut off preferential pricing to all the other meds they make, thus putting the said hospital out of business. However, this does not explain the legal sanction against doctors in places like Australia and Brazil.
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@Bodhi
"**** you, Faux News."

I read somewhere that Rupert Murdoch owns (or at least owns a big chunk of) the biggest vaccine manufacturer in Australia.
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here is no other illness or condition in the world for which the standard treatment guideline is: don't come into the clinic, stay home until you can't breathe, then go to the hospital. Then and only then will we deign to treat you -- when you're already half dead.


THIS WAS MY EXACT EXPERIENCE. TO THE LAST JOT.

(May of 2021)


The only reason I made it was that I suspected I had a secondary bacteriological infection of the lungs, which is not COVID. I was right.

Had I followed protocol, I might not have made it.

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@Abelardlundsey

I think you are holding to what Dr. Yeadon calls a coincidence theory. That's okay. Dr. Yeadon used to be a coincidence theorist himself.
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The top people in all these institutions are in sync with the Davos crowd.

Everyone underneath is following orders.

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I think it's much simpler.

The entire "public health" and "infectious disease" profession is in this up their necks across the board and on an international basis.

It's everywhere and anywhere within these fields. They all knew it, they all got pissed off when Obama banned the research and they all either ignored it if outside the United States or went around if they were inside the US via hook or crook and irrespective of whether it was legal or not.

When it blew up in their face they all knew it too, months before we knew there was a problem. But they also knew that if their first "forecasts" of IFR were anything close to correct if this got pinned on them they were all going to get a guillotine down to the last one. Legal process be damned; they'd be lucky to get a decent burial instead of being left to rot where the buzzards could peck out their eyeballs.

THAT is why they all circled around and ran their narratives. They knew ******ned well that a formal trial and execution would be THE BEST possible outcome if the people came after them -- far more likely they'd be flensed with Xacto knives in the middle of the town square, along with their entire families for causing this.

Occam's Razor folks.

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@Heartlander

The problem is that we're talking about a conspiracy involving thoudands, if not tens of thousands of active participants and other willing to go along for the ride. I just find this a stretch.

Its possible that a lot of the educated class have no problem with doing in all of those "ignorant rednecks" as well as all of those third worlders who are still "breeding like rabbits" (even though they're not). This malthusian ideology has been very strong among the educated classes since the early 70's. Remember the Club of Rome, Soylent Green, and all that other early 70's horse****? But could this translate into an actual agenda involving thousands of these people without anyone spilling the beans? I think we would hear something if there was an actual conspiracy. That is, something more than just a monetary gravy train for the pharmaceutical giants.

You might be right. But for now I stick with the gravy train theory.



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Will the circling of the wagons lead to a game of musical chairs, where the losers of each round are thrown to the mob for stoning or necklacing?
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I think it's much simpler.

The entire "public health" and "infectious disease" profession is in this up their necks across the board and on an international basis.

It's everywhere and anywhere within these fields. They all knew it, they all got pissed off when Obama banned the research and they all either ignored it if outside the United States or went around if they were inside the US via hook or crook and irrespective of whether it was legal or not.

When it blew up in their face they all knew it too, months before we knew there was a problem. But they also knew that if their first "forecasts" of IFR were anything close to correct if this got pinned on them they were all going to get a guillotine down to the last one. Legal process be damned; they'd be lucky to get a decent burial instead of being left to rot where the buzzards could peck out their eyeballs.

THAT is why they all circled around and ran their narratives. They knew ******ned well that a formal trial and execution would be THE BEST possible outcome if the people came after them -- far more likely they'd be flensed with Xacto knives in the middle of the town square, along with their entire families for causing this.

Occam's Razor folks.


This is a very plausible explanation. This and the vaccine gravy train for the pharmaceutical giants.

You will note Merck has sat this one out. They knew that a vaccine could not be developed for coronavirus AND they knew full the scoop on all of this. They ARE coming out with a cure that is a protease inhibitor.

I think Merck will be the largest pharmaceutical company in the world when this covid-19 business is all set and done.

BTW, I have Merck stock. But no stock in any of the covid-19 vaccine makers.
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Merck abandoned their vaccine trial; they were running one, but didn't like SOMETHING in the data and dumped it.

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Imhotep
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@TG re Merck

I read a blurb somewhere on the www that Merck was going to tweak IVM with something else to help fight the 'vid. It may have been posted here in the comments somewhere or I may have just seen it on another site.
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The drug they allegedly have in trial is not a tweak to Ivermectin. But their statements on Ivermectin are clearly self-serving, since that would be what I'd expect to compare it against.

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"Wow, @Susanlauren, we may have to petition our genial host to have your name changed to Jack_crabb2 or something. (And I don't mean that in a bad way.)"

The girl does have style.
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Merck abandoned their vaccine trial; they were running one, but didn't like SOMETHING in the data and dumped it.


Whatever they found, it must have been bad. Someone posted in your forum that their "cure" is going to be a protease inhibitor. Generally I would avoid these. However, if it is a remedy you take in the short-term (say a week or two) only, then it will probably be OK. It goes without saying that it will be more expensive than Ivermectin.
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Probably no more effective than Ivermectin, and almost-certainly not as safe.

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