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2021-05-04 09:12 by Karl Denninger
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It's ok folks, it's very "rare".

Uh huh, sure it is.

High school senior Emma Burkey received her “one and done” Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine on March 20, and within two weeks was in an induced coma following seizures and clotting in her brain.

She’s making a slow recovery, having recently been transfered from the hospital to a rehabilitation center, and the first round of bills totaled $513,000. The 18-year-old’s family friends in the Las Vegas area started a GoFundMe account to help with medical expenses from the very rare vaccine reaction.

An 18 year old, according to the CDC, has a roughly 1/50,000 risk of being killed by Covid-19 assuming the FDA's and CDC's "standard of care" which prohibits the use of budesonide, ivermectin, monoclonal antibodies and a whole host of other drugs which we know work.  One of them, budesonide, has a roughly 90% efficacy in preventing hospitalization (and of course death usually is preceded by that if you get Covid); the others also have some efficacy.  Stacking just those three likely winds up around 95-99% effective, so your actual risk, if you're not a dumb-ass and are both young and get Covid-19 is more like 1/500,000.

And that's if you get Covid.  The CDC says about 1/10 people have over a year's time, so your risk as a healthy 18 year old is approximately 1/5,000,000 since to be exposed to the risk of death you first must get the disease and that is not certain.  Remember, according to the CDC if you die while Covid-19 positive then your death was caused by Covid-19, even though this is not scientifically proved.  This is the same standard that VAERS uses for vaccine death; you died associated with receiving the shot; it is not proved it was caused, but if that's good enough for the CDC to claim the Coof killed you then it sure as hell is good enough to claim the vaccine killed you.

By the CDCs VAERS numbers and the number of delivered shots into arms the risk of the shot killing you is approximately 1/45,000 and if you take the shot the hazard is 100% probable to be undertaken, obviously.  So if you're not specifically morbid the shot is one hundred times more dangerous than the disease.

Oh, and we know the VAERS reports are wildly understated.  Why?  Because it's a voluntary system; there is no mandate on any person or health provider to report potential adverse connected effects.  While you (as the impacted individual) can report to the system obvious doing that if you're dead is somewhat difficult.  Were this a mandatory system where any death within "X" time of an inoculation had to be reported, with a criminal penalty for not doing so by health providers, we might have a more-full picture.  But unlike death certificates which must be issued, and the CDC rules for Covid-19 that say if you were positive any time in the last 28 days, or at death, your death is ruled Covid-related there is no such mandate for VAERS.

Maybe health insurance will pay Emma's bill, at least in part.  What's Emma's deductible, if she has insurance?  Will she be eating that deductible every year for the rest of her life with a continuing care requirement?  Will her insurer refuse to pay entirely, since these were experimental shots?  What happens if Emma wants to start a family and tries to get life insurance down the road?  Will it be available at any reasonable price?  Has her ability to bear a child been damaged or destroyed?  What about her ability to enjoy all the things she used to enjoy; will she, for example, still be able to go for a nice jog?  Can she hold a driver license?  What about a CDL or pilot's license?  What about something as simple as driving a forklift in a warehouse?  Have the seizures permanently destroyed those options for Emma?

You think Emma hasn't had her employment prospects permanently damaged or even destroyed?  Oh, yes, it's illegal to discriminate against someone on the basis of their medical status (funny how people claim that "we can require vaccines!" yet ignore that the law actually makes discrimination in employment or services on the basis of medical status illegal eh?) but you can bet employers do exactly that all the time, every single day.  Would you hire Emma knowing that she has a much greater risk of being a serious health insurance cost center?  Not if you can get away with turning her down without her knowing you did it due to her health status!  Proving that was the reason you were discriminated against is very difficult but every employer in the world can see the GoFraudMe campaign for "help."   You think employers don't check that sort of thing on the down low?  They sure do.  Oops.

Emma's medical chart has been permanently branded by this incident and there is no possible way to erase that branding which is now in the MIB and will be with her forever.  It will impact her ability to get a job and it will do lifelong damage to her economically, even if medically it appears she fully recovers, which of course nobody knows at this time.

Emma was stupid.  Emma did a stupid thing; she intentionally took 100 times, that is, 10,000%, of the risk she had no choice but to accept from Covid infecting and killing her, and willingly, being 18 years old and thus an adult, pulled a personal black ball out of the bag.

She won a stupid prize for doing a stupid thing, willingly taking 100 times the natural risk.

Who failed to explain to her the above data?  Who advocated for her to do said stupid thing?  This is not my data it is official government data.  Yet official government agencies and their employees have been screaming all over the media, the news, the CDC itself and elsewhere a factual lie; that for someone who is not at particular risk the shots are wildly more-dangerous than natural infection by the very same criteria that the CDC uses to determine whether or not Covid-19 kills you.

Do stupid things, win stupid prizes.

Now Emma knows that her government is and has been full of ****, and she learned it the hard way having been personally butt****ed by the so-called "safe and effective" shots for a disease that was far less-likely to harm her than the shot was.

There are people for whom the math runs the "right way", even given the relatively high risk profile of these shots.  But being coerced by an employer, by a school, by peer pressure or by flat-out lies from various "health" organs is not only wrong it damn well ought to result in the most-severe of penalties because we are talking about risks that, if you get a bad dice roll, you can't go back and change your mind.

Don't be Emma.

Do the math before you take the jab.

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Geckogm
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Someone posted this comment yesterday. Nail meet hammer.

 
Nadavegan
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I wonder if Emma thinks the shot did this to her or not. Because if she does, the same media she has believed in says that she is a conspiracy nutjob.
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What a ****ing shame. This were all in this together and #ThisIsOurShot bull**** have convinced these kids this is for the greater good. And now approved for 12 year olds?!?

Probably didnt even teach her the math in school to do the statistics.

And all that for what? Outbreaks at nursing home where 90% cases are people vaccinated

https://www.wcax.com/2021/04/30/nh-heath....
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Listening to Steve Gruber this morning, one of his stories was about a lady in Grand Rapids that died after getting the J&J shot. I guess she won't be getting "Vac to Normal", right Gretchen?
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Unfortunately it is too late for a number of people I care about, including my BIL. They all rushed in to the get shot without thinking or doing any due diligence whatsoever. Now they are ticking time bombs and the wait for a shoe to drop is terrible for me.

As I have said before, people as a whole are dumb, individuals are smart, except in this case even the individuals gave in to the Mass Hysteria and Fear Mongering and they got the shot.

Evidence is starting to mount up that these shots are a Horror Movie playing out right in front of us. I can't even try to tell some of these friends the truth, because why scare them, there is nothing they can do if any of these adverse effects hits them. As Karl says, once you take the shot you can't undue it.

The next 18 months or so may turn out to be brutal and there will be no recourse, just extreme anger.
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There was the woman in Nashville that after taking the vaccine she become paralyzed, arms, legs. She has finally gotten back use of her arms, it will be a long haul on whether she walks again or not.

But get this, she is still advocating for people to get the vaccine as she says that what happened to her was very rare. What will she say when the rare becomes common? How stupid can you get, but this is how the propaganda and brain washing has worked. She is now completely compliant.
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A local school board I am on has a doctor on it.

The doc got up and DEMANDED we start vaccinating middle school kids.

Another lady on the board told the first woman "We are not in the business of making health decisions for the families who attend here".

A full blown screech fest started with the doc saying "IF YOU DON'T RESPECT MY AUTHORITY YOU WILL RESPECT THE LAW!"

Which is BS. All BS. But the doc had the shot, got seriously sick, then got covid (another isolated event) and now is convinced that she got it because the unwashed masses refused to get the shot.

Take the risk or not. I do not care. But this whole thing is going into crazy town.
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Someone should have asked him if he thought his daughter or son was the more-tasty with Carolina Sweet BBQ sauce.

He's lucky I wasn't there as I would have asked that EXACT question.

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"There are people for whom the math runs the "right way", even given the relatively high risk profile of these shots."

It is still Russian Roulette to a -FAR- greater extent than getting a flu vaccination. If you have any comorbidities or even if you don't, you could be screwing yourself over a disease you may have been able to avoid. I've seen too many cases of people with "brain fog" and other non-lethal issues after vaccinations, the "long haulers," and those disorders sound likely to be clotting related to me.

I'm waiting for EVERYONE ELSE to get vaccinated AND for some kind of multiple-strain vaccine that targets the correct virus component for LONG TERM immunity without the S1 protein being involved.
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"is convinced that she got it because the unwashed masses refused to get the shot."

Which would not be possible, if the shot were truly protective. Jesus, the line between stupid and insane is fine indeed.
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At a recent annual physical, my doc asked me if I had been vaccinated. His eyebrows rose when I said no, that I do not want to receive an experimental therapeutic with real safety risks. Surprisingly, he said he did not blame me, but rather sheeplessly said that is all that was available in the way of vaccines, no good options. I wasn't going to argue with him about other options but appreciated his recognition of the validitiy of the no-"vax" position. I can imagine that as small business people, the loss of their license to practice must be a concern.
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Wondering if we're going to start to see more incidents like this (and then what?): https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/ma....

The Medical Examiner hasn't listed a cause of death yet, but it'll be interesting to see if this is stroke or heart attack related.
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Sorry to say it, it is cold and I dont like to see anyone suffer because of this, but for the greater good of the govt stopping this, we need more of these cases in a short period of time for the public to wake up to the lie.
Only more of these incidences in a larger number is going to stop this, nothing else will, except bodies piling up and people getting hurt from the jab. I know it is cold, but what else is going to stop this being mandated?
They are rushing towards full authorization towards end of year and univs and businesses are waiting in line to mandate vaccines.
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Are there any thoughts about using Ivermectin as a prophylactic for being around vaccinated people?
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So let's look at this. The mRNA jab result in the reduction of the virus entering the cells of the body. However, once in the cell it can replicate.
The result is a milder version of the coof that goes away in most cases claimed.
In all of this, there is spike protein involved. we now know those are pathogenic. We have no long term study of what this will do. microclots? causing damages to nerves, brain functions? not severe, but lifelong limiting?
IVM recently postulated to bind to the virus spike and prevent or reduce the chance of it causing micro-clots?
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Considering all the different alternatives available:

1. Ivermectin
2. Hydroxychloroquine
3. Budesonide
4. Chlorine Dioxide (the paper on this makes it sound promising)

https://www.hilarispublisher.com/open-ac....

I wouldn't recommend even a terminally ill 120-year-old patient with a high-risk profile to take any of the jabs. That is, unless the drug companies pay him and his immediate family a hilariously large sum of money for the participation in an informed-consent clinical trial, and even then I'd recommend against it.
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Now they are ticking time bombs and the wait for a shoe to drop is terrible for me.


Yes. I'm trying not to sink into that mental hole.

I attend a small Church where I (52) and my wife (48) are some of the youngest people there. The bulk of the congregation has been vaccinated.

Then there's my 80 year old, 3 time cancer survivor mom and my 50 year old, obese, major heart attack and triple bypass surviving brother who lives with her. They had dose 1 a week ago Monday and are scheduled for dose 2 on the 24th.

I'm starting to have a twinge of dread every time I get a text or phone call that it's going to be bad news out of the above pool of potential.

I'm just glad my wife and kids listen to and follow my leadership on this.
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and now is convinced that she got it because the unwashed masses refused to get the shot.


I've been prepared for this, regardless of the outcome the unvaxxed will be blamed for any failures. We're the perfect scapegoat for the collectivists - we lean right wing and individualistic and it drives them crazy. Last I read Pfizer is pushing to vaccinate children 12-15 starting next week. I used to regret not being a parent; that feeling is fading.

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this young woman also faces the problem that she must do two things relating to health "insurance." She must maintain uninterrupted coverage which could be quite costly dependent upon her income. Closely related to this, she might find employers shun her due to her cost profile without her being able to prove it. Her other option is to not earn much of anything and qualify for full Medicaid in a Medicaid expansion state. Just qualifying for a subsidized plan might not be enough as the approved care and deductibles could be an issue. Thus, her assets are at risk for her entire life if she has future health problems and acquiring said along with earning money are all subject to self-imposed limitations for practical reasons.

She will probably be advised to go on full disability if problems persist.

A crazy thought came into my mind a few months back. If Obamacare did not exist during this mess, people harmed by the vexxine would be facing massive economic losses whether it be them or their children. All a person must do to get on full subsidy is stop earning, assets are not considered. Additionally, poor people or young people not working in expansion states are completely covered by Medicaid and have no care about medical finances. Families going broke over bad reactions would have been a spark.

Lots to sort through.

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I don't understand the rush to try some new experimental technology. If buying a new car, rule of thumb is to let some other sucker deal with all the problems with a first year model. No different with the Jab, especially if reasonably healthy.

But what do I know, I am the only person in my household who has not gotten it. Maybe that is why the dog likes me the best.

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Where did the design of the spike protein come from? A chinese bioweapons lab? 2+2 = 4 Perhaps your injection is filling your body with a chinese bioweapon. I would guess many people are having mini-strokes and other things beyond what a normal vaccine would cause. Just because you survived doesn't mean you haven't done permanent damage. For example what if your testosterone levels are lowered?

I also have to wonder about the wisdom of inserting the spike protein into another potentially infectious virus. What if the JNJ virus reactivated? Can't happen? Inject a billion particles into millions of people and the improbable becomes a possibility. Isn't what JNJ has done gain of function? How many labs around the world are now playing around with spike protein trying to cash in on the billion dollar vaccine jackpot? Nobody is going to have an accidental release?
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All medical interventions should be analyzed in terms of a RBA (risks, benefits, and alternatives) analysis before they are performed. This isn't happening with the COVID "vaccines."

Risks: completely unknown -- we are seeing short-term risks now, medium and long-term risks still totally unknown. They could be horrendous.

Benefits: Benefit of the shot (which is true for all age groups according to current evidence): Zero.

Alternatives: no shot. Risk of alternative to intervention: virtually zero, since the likelihood of severe illness in young, health people is virtually zero.

So getting the shot means undergoing a medical procedure which has no known benefits in exchange for the an unknown magnitude of risk of severe illness, disability, or death. This would be like cashing in everything you have and going to Vegas, then placing a single bet with all your money when you know in advance that there is no possibility of any payoff.

So in summary, this young girl may die, or if not, will be permanently disabled by the experimental intervention, which offered her no benefit whatever.

CDC, FDA have zero credibility anymore.

What they are doing is criminal, there is no other word for it.
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UK:
Secondary school pupils "to be offered vaccine from September"
"Health officials are drawing up plans to offer the Pfizer vaccine to secondary school pupils from September. Core planning scenario documents compiled by NHS officials include the offer of a single dose to children aged 12 and over when the new school year starts. The plans, which have been confirmed by sources within the government and the NHS, depend on advice due this summer from scientists on the joint committee on vaccination and immunisation. But officials are preparing for a rollout in schools. A source said: No decision has been made yet but we are drawing up planning materials for the different scenarios. - Sunday Times
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