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Someone referenced boxcars above. One of the vaccine appointment systems is literally booking your "Boxcar Reservation". I wish I were joking. Someone is having a huge laugh at all of our expense.
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Lazydaizy316 wrote..
I am about ready to buy a Canadian flag and fly it upside down. We are SO screwed! I do not see a bottom to our rabbit hole.
Doesn't Canada have a fairly strong French heritage? If there's anything we can say about the French, they know how to throw down a revolution that deals with an out of control political class.

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Once you start digging into the various areas of "medical practice" you recognize two things quickly:

1. You're the one being practiced on.

2. Over the last 30+ years medicine has gone from an art which one practices, and which is accepted as imperfect and individualized, to a rote commercial model where the practitioners are immune from laws everyone else must follow, and therefore whatever they chose to do that makes the MOST MONEY, irrespective of all other considerations, is done.

Yep. Greed!

I once saw an surgeon for an opinion on my torn meniscus. He said we must do surgery in the next two weeks or I would soon need a knee replacement and since he was in such demand I should lock up a place on his schedule. I went back two weeks later after researching treatment plans and asked him about physical therapy. He said he didnt think it would work but finally agreed to give me a script. I asked him why he didnt first offer physical therapy and he said most people would rather have the surgery. 6 weeks of therapy and exercises the pain was gone and mobility returned. That was 10 years ago and I have not had further problems. In my opinion he cared more about the surgery fee than what was best for me. Greed! What ever happened to do no harm?
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Wouldn't TG and Melinda be an awesome couple? Can you imagine the power that much money would have? I expect to see Bill with someone young enough to be his daughter soon.
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Thanks for the additional reasons why no one should want to come to Oklahoma. I will be sure to add F5 tornadoes (or any tornadoes at all), extreme heat, ice storms and my fav...rednecks to my list. I knew I had forgotten some things!

Grammar: the difference between knowing your **** and knowing you're ****.
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I'm pretty sure that bill wants someone younger than his wife who looks ancient. His hero Buffett has had a mistress for decades. These people are all garbage. Watch people do not what they say.
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Governor Stitt withdraws COVID-19 State of Emergency.

Based on the OK stab tracker, about 25% of the state got both jabs, another 5% had the first stab. It's been available to all residents over 16 since March 29 and to nonresidents since April 8. It's over for voluntary compliance at 30%. Anyone else who submits was bullied, bribed, manipulated, or, in the case of minor children, abused.

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I've never talked about the vaccines at the places I work. No ones ever asked me what I think about them and I've never asked them. As far as I'm concerned, I consider my medical decisions to be a private, personal thing, not to be discussed in polite conversation.

I hunkered down for two weeks at the beginning of this mess March of last year after seeing all of those awful videos coming out of Wuhan. Since then, I've lived my life no different than before. I went to Florida on holiday for Christmas and had a good time.
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Asi wrote..
There are no liver toxicity reports on ivermectin. It's LDL50 in mice is somewhere around 25mg per kg which is something like 1000x the normal dose. A 180lb man would need to eat somewhere north of four POUNDS of it to get to the range where 50% of people would die from it.

You might want to double-check your math. A normal does is 0.2 mg/kg. That's a factor of 125, not 1000.

180 lbs = ~82 kg. If 25 mg/kg is an LD50 does, a 180 lb person would reach it by ingesting 2045 mg, call it 2 grams; a far cry from 4 lbs.

However, the Pony Paste Posse need not worry. A full tube only contains 113 mg, so a 180 lb person would need to consume the contents of ~18 tubes to reach LD50.

"Corona Virus will come and go, but government will NEVER forget how easy it was to take control of everyone's life; to control every sporting event, classroom, restaurant table, church pew, and even whether you are allowed to leave your house.
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@Chromehill wrote..
Got a feeling a lot of people are going to find that having the jab is not as pleasing as wanting the jab, not by a long shot.
My mom didn't really want it (on my advice to avoid until more testing had been done). But she is in a retirement home and everyone was being signed up by the home's management to get the shot. If they weren't vaxxed, their movements within the home would be curtailed so my mom grudgingly agreed.

I have yet to hear whether her recently diagnosed ischemia could be the result of getting the jab. I actually don't have a lot of hope that the cardiologist who she will see in a couple days would even acknowledge that ischemia can be triggered by the spike protein.

Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised and he will be on top of these issues.

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FDPrefect, wishing your mother sad, what is happening to our elders.
I presume this has appeared here in one of the threads, but worth seeing it again:

Laboratories in US cant find Covid-19 in one of 1,500 positive tests

CDC sued for massive fraud: Tests at 7 universities of ALL people examined showed that they did not have Covid, but just Influenza A or B EU statistics: Corona virtually disappeared, even under mortality.
A clinical scientist and immunologist-virologist at a southern California laboratory says he and colleagues from 7 universities are suing the CDC for massive fraud. The reason: not one of 1500 samples of people tested positive could find Covid-19. ALL people were simply found to have Influenza A, and to a lesser extent Influenza B. This is consistent with the previous findings of other scientists, which we have reported on several times.
Dr. Derek Knauss: When my lab team and I subjected the 1500 supposedly positive Covid-19 samples to Kochs postulates and put them under an SEM (electron microscope), we found NO Covid in all 1500 samples. We found that all 1500 samples were primarily Influenza A, and some Influenza B, but no cases of Covid. We did not use the bulls*** PCR test.
So we came to the hard conclusion through all our research and lab work that Covid-19 was imaginary and fictitious. The flu was only called Covid, and most of the 225,000 deaths were from co-morbidities such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, pulmonary emphysema, etc.. They got the flu which further weakened their immune systems, and they died.

This virus is fictitious
I still need to find one viable sample with Covid-19 to work with. We who conducted the lab test with these 1500 samples at the 7 universities are now suing the CDC for Covid-19 fraud. The CDC still has not sent us a viable, isolated and purified sample of Covid-19. If they cant or wont, then I say there is no Covid-19. Its fictional.

"If might is right, then love has no place in the world. It may be so, it may be so. But I don't have the strength to live in a world like that..."-Father Gabriel, 'The Mission'

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Uh oh. The cat is outta de bag.

Lots of people are going to be homicidally pissed when they realize they have no realistic hope of compensation if injured by the vaccines.

Why in all that is Holy was an 18 yo girl getting the jab??

It is madness, sheer madness.

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I can't get that link to work. Can you tell us the title of the article so I can just do a search for it on the ACS site?
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I expect to see Bill with someone young enough to be his daughter soon.

They probably met at Lolita Island.


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It divides power among sovereigns and among branches of government
precisely so that we may resist the temptation to concentrate power
in one location as an expedient solution to the crisis of the day.
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@Pavolley - "When family from several locations gather and have had their jab including a couple getting 2nd jab within the week, who's to say they don't all shed and infect each other with a slightly different spike protein their body has made?"

Then we have an exciting opportunity for some real science to happen :)
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Uwe: Uhg. That's what I get. I knew 100x was the number in my head but for some reason what I wrote made sense at the time. It seems a 0 went dancing around and landed where it shouldn't.

Thanks for the correction.

It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.

Festina lente.
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Oh look.

Viral spike protein shedding in the urine in acute infection.

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Have you been vaccinated?
I'm in the Control Group.

And what's this **** about vaxxed shedding stuff that "I" need to worry about? Seriously...solid link please. I'm surrounded by idiots of every stripe, mostly family members ha ha, and need to "protect" myself from them, if necessary. IF they shed on me and I get markedly sick...can I sue them? :)

In other news, NH is warming up (finally!) in more ways than just hours of sunlight. I traveled an hour each way just to give these pricks "my back" too. (link warning - tons of stupid popup crap, I hear, so open with your best 'blocky' browser only!)
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Aerius said: "One of the scientists who wrote up the latest S1 protein study had the following to say on social media... I remain unconvinced."

At the twitter link:

"(relatively) small amount of spike protein produced"
"the mRNA-produced Spike is extremely localized"

Just a VERY quick look at the linked study. I looked for the keyword "localized" in the PDF. Not found. I did find this:

"The BNT162b2 vaccine is injected into the deltoid muscle, which drains primarily to the lateral axillary lymph nodes."

"Primarily." Meaning some gets into the blood stream and then throughout the body.

Tell you what, I'll inject you with a "(realtively) small amount" of some substance which causes your body's cells to produce a harmful substance and you can feel at ease because it is going "primarily" into your lateral axillary lymph nodes. And, BTW, the S1 protein produced can't damage lymph nodes, too?

Oh, and ignore these. "***" emphasis is mine:

16 Apr 2021
Latest VAERS Data Show Reports of Blood Clotting Disorders After All Three Emergency Use Authorization Vaccines - VAERS data released today showed 795 reports related to blood clotting disorders with 400 attributed to Pfizer, 337 to Moderna and 56 to Johnson & Johnson between Dec. 14, 2020 and April 8, 2021 [just four months of vaccinations]

Every Friday, VAERS makes public all vaccine injury reports received through a specified date, usually about a week prior to the release date. Todays data show that between Dec. 14, 2020 and April 8, a total of 68,347 total adverse events were reported to VAERS, including 2,602 deaths an increase of 260 over the previous week and 8,285 serious injuries, up 314 since last week.

Of the 2,602 deaths reported as of April 8, ***27% occurred within 48 hours of vaccination, 19% occurred within 24 hours and 41% occurred in people who became ill within 48 hours of being vaccinated.***

In the U.S., 174.9 million COVID vaccine doses had been administered as of April 8. This includes 79.6 million doses of Modernas vaccine, 90.3 million doses of Pfizer and 4.9 million doses of the J&J COVID vaccine.

This weeks VAERS data show:

- 19% of deaths were related to cardiac disorders.
- 55% of those who died were male, 43% were female and the remaining death reports did not include gender of the deceased.
- The average age of those who died was 77 and the youngest death was an 18-year-old. There are a few reported deaths in children under 18, but these reports contained errors.
- As of April 8, 408 pregnant women had reported adverse events related to COVID vaccines, including 114 reports of miscarriage or premature birth.
- Of the 678 cases of Bells Palsy reported, 59% of cases were reported after Pfizer-BioNTech vaccinations, 38% following vaccination with the Moderna vaccine and 24 cases (4%) of Bells Palsy were reported with J&J.
- There were 77 reports of Guillain-Barr Syndrome with 55% of cases attributed to Pfizer, 40% to Moderna and 10% to J&J.
- There were 20,021 reports of anaphylaxis with 47% of cases attributed to Pfizers vaccine, 46% to Moderna and 7% to J&J.

Reports of blood clotting disorders in VAERS

Childrens Health Defense queried the VAERS data for a series of adverse events associated with the formation of clotting disorders and other related conditions. VAERS yielded a total of 795 reports for all three vaccines from Dec. 14, 2020, through April 8.

Of the 795 cases reported, there were 400 reports attributed to Pfizer, 337 reports with Moderna and 56 reports with J&J far more than the eight J&J cases under investigation, including the two additional cases added Wednesday.

As The Defender reported today, although the J&J and AstraZeneca COVID vaccines have been under the microscope for their potential to cause blood clots, mounting evidence suggests the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines also cause clots and related blood disorders. U.S. regulatory officials were alerted to the problem as far back as December 2020.


19,916 eye disorders including blindness following COVID vaccine reported in Europe - More than 10,000 reports of eye disorders after COVID shots in the U.K. alone
May 1, 2021
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And let me post this again in one piece for everyone to better realize the great significance of it. I stupidly split my original post of this into two parts. The FDA was warned about what is apparently happening.

Could spike protein in Moderna, Pfizer vaccines cause blood clots, brain inflammation and heart attacks? - Dr. J. Patrick Whelan, a pediatric rheumatologist, warned the FDA in December that mRNA vaccines could cause microvascular injury to the brain, heart, liver and kidneys in ways not assessed in safety trials. - Feb 11, 2021


February 11, 2021 (Childrens Health Defense) On Dec. 8, 2020, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) received a public submission from J. Patrick Whelan, M.D., Ph.D. The submission was in response to the agencys request for comments regarding vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 in advance of the Dec. 10 meeting when the committee would review the Pfizer/BioNTech (BNT162b2) SARS-CoV-2 vaccine for emergency use authorization (EUA).

Whelans training (at Harvard, Texas Childrens Hospital and Baylor College of Medicine) includes degrees in biochemistry, medicine and rheumatology. For 20 years, he worked as a pediatric rheumatologist. He currently specializes in treating children with multisystem inflammatory syndrome (MIS-C), which has been associated with coronavirus infections.

In his public submission [linked below], Whelan sought to alert the FDA about the potential for vaccines designed to create immunity to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein to instead cause injuries.

Specifically, Whelan was concerned that the new mRNA vaccine technology utilized by Pfizer and Moderna has the potential to cause microvascular injury (inflammation and small blood clots called microthrombi) to the brain, heart, liver and kidneys in ways that were not assessed in the safety trials.

[large amount of supporting material in article omitted - see it at the link]

If not viral infection [because the virus wasn't found in samples of the damaged tissues - W], what else could be causing injury to distant organs associated with COVID-19?

The most likely culprit that has been identified is the COVID-19 spike protein released from the outer shell of the virus into circulation. Research cited below has documented that the viral spike protein is able to initiate a cascade of events that triggers damage to distant organs in COVID-19 patients.

Worryingly, several studies have found that the spike proteins alone have the capacity to cause widespread injury throughout the body, without any evidence of virus.
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Blackcrow said: "Oh look. Viral spike protein shedding in the urine in acute infection."

Thanks! That gave me a lead to look for.

COVID-19 vaccines, irregular periods and spike protein shedding
24 Apr 2021

Spike protein is primarily made locally in muscle where the vaccine is administered and may possibly be seen in low levels in the blood," says Dr. Lawler [infectious diseases expert James Lawler, MD, MPH]. "But it should not be shed in significant quantity in respiratory or other secretions.

"May possibly." "Should not." "Significant quantity." Wait a minute. You DON'T KNOW?

Not that spike protein shedding itself is anything to be concerned about, but the extent to which it does occur indicates how pervasive the spike protein is within the body which IS something to be concerned about.

BTW, Dr. Lawler's name shows up in a lot of COVID-19 vaccine Q&A articles. I don't know if he had anything to do with vaccine development.
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@Blackcrow -- i just mused in another thread about the young woman's situation. Almost probably that she lives in a Medicaid expansion state. The family and she would be wise to limit all earnings for her to the lowest levels so that she qualifies. It is probably the only option to not ruin her family and get future care.


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Images of Cells Exposed to COVID-19 Vaccine Reveal Native-Like Coronavirus Spikes
April 7, 2021

The study:

Native-like SARS-CoV‑2 Spike Glycoprotein Expressed by ChAdOx1 nCoV-19/AZD1222 Vaccine

Key excerpts:

ChAdOx1 nCoV-19/AZD1222 [vaccine] (hereafter referred to as ChAdOx1 nCoV-19), encodes the full-length wild-type SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.

While this observation that the majority of cells infected with ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 present native-like spikes on the cell surface (Figure 1B), it is interesting to note that a population may shed the S1 subunit. Whether this is a beneficial or detrimental feature with respect to the elicitation of immune responses during vaccination is unknown. Shedding of S1 subunits from viruses occurs during native infection, and the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19-derived S proteins mimic this native feature of the viral spike.
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One of our new hires is a 25 yo lady who worked in another MD office prior to coming to us. This office required all employees to get vaccinated. She submitted and had 1 Pfizer jab in Jan, then quit. She has had irregular menses and has been unable to conceive since.

I have urged her to report to VAERS and join the lawsuits that are getting underway on this forced vaccination program.

I am battling with one of our major hospital systems that is requiring all employees to be vaxx'd - and now all credentialed physicians or risk losing your privileges. Nuremburg anybody? I may just hit "reply all" to the next email the system president puts out and include a ton of attachments. You can call me the Martin Luther of the Internet, lol.

@Whitehat: States that did the 3 year Medicaid expansion under Obamacare have experienced catastrophic budget impacts. There will simply be NO money to take care of these people, at least under Medicaid (50% feds $/50% state $) And Karl has outlined the impending disaster of Medicare.

I have said repeatedly that I don't think the USA recovers from covid - not only the health/death issues but the changes to our voting, the impact on our economy and the setting in concrete the social divisions that were bad enough before the epidemic.

These ARE the "good old days". Enjoy them while you can and plan accordingly.
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