About the Cross-Immunity Our deal host has discussed & mentioned since Last Spring..
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Speaking on "when" Covid appeared & blood samples backing that hypotheses & Folks that already "had" immunity & or Antibodies?
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The most likely duration of immunity to a respiratory virus like SARS CoV-2 is multiple years.
Why do I say that? We actually have the data for a virus that swept through parts of the world seventeen years ago called SARS, and remember SARS CoV-2 is 80% similar to SARS, so I think thats the best comparison that anyone can provide.
The evidence is clear: These very clever cellular immunologists studied all the people they could get hold of who had survived SARS 17 years ago. They took a blood sample, and they tested whether they responded or not to the original SARS and they all did; they all had perfectly normal, robust T cell memory. They were actually also protected against SARS CoV-2, because theyre so similar; its cross immunity.
So, I would say the best data that exists is that immunity should be robust for at least 17 years. I think its entirely possible that it is lifelong.
The style of the responses of these peoples T cells were the same as if youve been vaccinated and then you come back years later to see if that immunity has been retained.
So I think the evidence is really strong that the duration of immunity will be multiple years, and possibly lifelong.
In other words, previous exposure to SARS that is, a variant similar to SARS CoV-2 bestowed SARS CoV-2 immunity.
1) Vaccine was based on efficacy trials but not safety trials. - why?
2) Why are we not testing T-cell immunity (IgG status) prior to requiring revaccination in those recently or previously infected? We use IgG with Varicella, MMR, and Hep B immunity testing. Why not COVID?
3) For those that have had COVID-19, what risk does the vaccine post to them? - as post release data appears to be showing these people are at higher risk of adverse events.
4) What populations will have severe reaction to this vaccine?
I am curious about cross-immunity as it may pertain to all forms of influenza, pneumonia, coronaviruses, and SARS.
Aside from the discussed comorbidities and susceptibilities due to immune weaknesses and disorders, would someone who has never gotten severely ill have a smaller chance of being affected by Covid-19, the variants, and/or ADE?
I wonder if there may be natural or gained immunity with or without antibodies or T-cell immunity.
I bring it up because I don't remember having ever been severely bedridden for any length of time by such illnesses, nor do I take any prescription medications. Anyone else here experience or observe a similar potential correlation?
So I'm going over this Israeli study. First thoughts: we are worried about Covid... why? Are the differences between vaxxed and unvaxxed even statistically significant? What the fucking fuck?
Sheeple are running around, explaining away the vaxxes failures by saying, 'Yah, but it is 95% successful'. Being unvaxxed appears to be about 93.5% successful too. So what are we worried about then?
The victors (Ruling Class) control the means of force and propaganda. They are never the subject of crimes against humanity, even if they meet the black letter law definition of it.
I'm not buying the government can't be sued. I'm not buying anyone in the medical industry responsible, all up through the entirety of the whole chain, can't be sued
You can't write a law to shield yourself from Crimes Against Humanity.
They are breaking the Nuremberg Code, Human Experimentation, International Law.
The immunity from liability is real. First was the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986. Next was the PREP Act of 2005, which increased this immunity from liability. Lastly, there was the 2011 court case that ruled that vaccines were "unavoidably unsafe" and thus were exempt from any kind of product liability whatsoever.
The thing is that the PREP Act means that even the vaccine court (which is a kangaroo court, BTW), which was established under the 1986 act, does not cover COVID-19 vaccines. If you suffer any long term side effects of any of the covid-19 vaccines, there is NO legal remuneration whatsoever.
Of course any attempt to coerce people into these vaccines is a direct violation of the Geneva Convention. So was Tuskegee. They still did it anyways (and got away with it).
I am gradually coming to the conclusion that we no longer have legitimate Rule of Law.
They can't remove them selves from the Nuremberg Code, International Law, but that would require the International community to respect the law.
Oh hell, what was I doing even thinking there is Rule of LAW anywhere in the world.
We're all just one big happy Banana Republic family.
Reagan signed the 1986 Act, and Bush signed the 2005 Act, and republicans still think these guys were great.
They were great traitors is what they were, and I voted for both those idiots.
Reagan gave us the Brady Bill, and Bush gave us the Patriot Act. Like I said, traitors to me.
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"The most grotesque act of Treason is to be born into a free Constitutional Republic, for which you did not risk your life or shed blood to create, and sit back and watch it slowly be taken from you w
There is no immunity, ever, from the Law of Scoreboards.
They should make a new movie, but with politicians being on the receiving end.
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"The most grotesque act of Treason is to be born into a free Constitutional Republic, for which you did not risk your life or shed blood to create, and sit back and watch it slowly be taken from you w
Daughter's employer is apparently going to give employees a $100 bonus to get the jabs. She isn't. She understands just how messed up this whole thing is. I told her if push comes to shove, let them fire you. It's not worth possibly ruining your health for life.
As far as I understand ADE it is caused by the antibodies. Antibodies from a mild corona virus infection do not last too long from what I read. You don't need antibodies to have immunity to corona virus. You have to question why there is a push to load the population with antibodies a healthy person should not need.
There is no immunity, ever, from the Law of Scoreboards.
Should put that on a T-shirt and send one to each person behind the Covid scenes that is driving the widespread destruction of lives among us common folk.
Might get their attention, but probably not until it's too late.
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"War is when the Government tells you who the bad guy is. Revolution is when you decide that for yourself." - Benjamin Franklin
My local HR figurehead sent out an email with the latest update on covid for the facility. One more case on an off shift is out after testing positive. That makes 50+ positives in a facility with 220+ people. All have returned to work thankfully.
The troublesome part of the email is the line "If you have been vaccinated please send a copy/picture of your vaccination to XXXXXX in HR @ ...." So far they haven't pushed the vax other than posting the states updates and a few of us have been vocal about not getting it. I told a co-worker that if the exec team expects us to get the vax, they have to expect to pay if something bad happens and by pay I didn't mean monetarily.
Any idea if mRNA vaccinated blood will be compatible with the non-vaccinated population? If it was a traditional vaccine and not gene therapy Id have no doubts but this new tech is perplexing.
@Cosmocat - I doubt very much there is any particular reason for concern there. While you can "program" a cell to do a thing with mRNA there's no evidence that it's "sticky"; that is, it cannot propagate beyond the current cell generation. However, the harm it does in that present generation can be permanent, including pathogenic priming ("ADE") or direct injury (e.g. causing thrombosis or other autoimmune trouble.)
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