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2020-12-07 18:08 by Karl Denninger
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Folks, it's pretty simple.

At the start of this thing back in March and April I pointed out that if you cut the vectors off for this (or any other) disease it stops being a problem.  I was hellbent on going after the people working in hospitals and nursing homes for this reason, since not only were they a major vector but they were giving the virus to vulnerable people that it was far more-likely to kill as well.

Nobody listened.

Well, months have gone by and now we have more data.  So let's use it.

FACT: The only STATISTICALLY material transmission vectors for Covid-19 are nosocomial (by definition every transmission into a nursing home is that) and household.

The CDC in fact says that a majority (given the current Rt estimates) of transmission happens in households.

In fact here's the MMWR paper on it:

For this analysis, 101 households (including 101 index patients and 191 household members) were enrolled and completed ≥7 days of follow-up. .... Among all household members, 102 had nasal swabs or saliva specimens in which SARS-CoV-2 was detected by RT-PCR during the first 7 days of follow-up, for a secondary infection rate of 53% (95% CI = 46%–60%) (Table 2). Secondary infection rates based only on nasal swab specimens yielded similar results (47%, 95% CI = 40%–54%). 

If you have it you will sustain community transmission statistically within your own household alone.  That is, one person gets it for each person who has it, which means no matter how many masks you force people to wear, no matter how many schools you close and no matter how many restaurants and bars you shutter THIS WILL NEVER STOP UNTIL HERD IMMUNITY IS REACHED.  If you slow it down for a bit as soon as you relax anything it comes roaring back because as soon as it gets into a house it finds enough people to keep virusing.

This marks every bit of sanction on businesses, schools and mask orders in public places worthless by simple mathematics.  You cannot maintain those public constraints forever but even if you could it does not matter as transmission in households is sufficient standing alone to keep the virus spreading in the community.

But... this also means that if you shut both of those vectors down so that transmission through them effectively ceases then nothing else matters the in other direction either (masks, shutdowns, capacity limits, etc) because all of those other vectors together are insufficient to maintain transmission (Rt) over 1.0 and as a result it's over.

We know how to do it.  Right now.  Today.  For pennies.

FOR REAL.

Here's the data:

 

Got it folks?  This is health care workers using standard PPE as control, and the trial group added Ivermectin and carrageenan (snorted, basically; it's a cheap food additive but is not probably actually active.  Won't hurt you though -- it's an extract from a species of red seaweed)

Zero infections occurred in the trial group.

ZERO.

That's ONE HUNDRED percent effective .vs. 11% who got infected using MASKS without the Ivermectin -- these are health care workers who have been trained to maintain protocol which nobody in the general public has been or will.

Adverse events in the trial group from taking the drug?  ZERO.

That's right -- not one adverse event.  Unlike the vaccines which are reported to be very uncomfortable -- and we hope there's nothing nasty that surfaces when we start using them on a mass basis.  Do remember that this drug in particular has had billions of doses dispensed and consumed -- not a few tens of thousands.

So how do you cut Covid off?

SIMPLE.

All health care workers are offered the protocol after personal medical advice.

All nursing home and other high-risk persons are offered this protocol under personal medical advice.  Ivermectin is extremely cheap, about a buck a pill if that, unbelievably safe and not a daily pill, in this use it's once a month.

If you test positive you are handed a pill for yourself and each member of your household with instructions to eat them immediately again, under personal medical advice rendered to you and your household members.  That both treats you and provides a high degree of protection for everyone else in the house from getting it from you.

The Egyptian study showed 80% effectiveness as prophylaxis for Ivermectin among household members of confirmed infected persons.

It also cut the early use mortality rate from 4% to ZERO.

The expected results of oral Ivermectin distribution to at-risk, health care, and everyone in the household of someone diagnosed including the patient?

80% prevention of contagion to other members of the household.

80% reduction of transmission to at-risk people.

Nearly 100% reduction in death for those who are given the drug early.  Yes, it won't work for everyone I'm sure.  But if it's 90% that's a hell of a lot better than we have now, and the Egyptian data says that 99% of those who you intervene early with never need a hospital.  In other words the entire hospital "overload" problem disappears immediately.

In addition the Rt, effective transmission rate, is dampened by approximately 0.5 which is enough to drop it under 1.0 everywhere in the United States.  There is no need for masks, for business or school closures or capacity limits of any sort because the primary vectors are eliminated and transmission cannot be maintained.

Do this and the entire "pandemic" is over in ONE WEEK.

I WILL REPEAT MYSELF JUST IN CASE YOU MISSED IT:

IF WE DO THIS IT ENDS THE PANDEMIC IMMEDIATELY AND PERMANENTLY -- AND COSTS ABOUT $2/PERSON WHO IS INFECTED OR EXPOSED.

The two primary vectors are cut off and that's the end of it.  Those who get it are, with a high degree of reliability, treated and recover at home.  Statistically nobody goes to the hospital and nobody dies.

Statistically zero people who are not today infected need to die from this point forward.

Zero.

Further, if you're one of the people who wishes to claim this is "unproved" no it isn't.  As documented in Senate testimony it has been proved in multiple parts of multiple nations which adopted this regime and saw the infection and death rate immediately collapse against other parts of the same region or nation.  Never mind that there is effectively zero risk to adopting this strategy; if some county or state takes this step and it does not work you will know within a week and you've harmed nobody.  But if it does work you also will know within one week as the change will be immediately evident and continue.

Note that this is not simply the ranting of some Internet wunderkind; it is in fact the protocol recommended by EVMS, originally developed as potentially effective by a medical group in Broward FL six months ago and used in multiple other nations and portions of nations which is how all this data has been generated.

I remind you we've known that Ivermectin works since June, so everyone in the political, medical and so-called "science" communities who have sat on their ass and screamed about MAAAASSSSSSSKKKKSSSS for the last five months instead, sending people home with nothing until they're choking to death are in fact murderous bastards.

We've known how to cut this bug off at the knees by making it unable to infect another person, on average, for each person infected for nearly six months and every one of those *******s willfully and intentionally ignored this in favor of "vaccines" and WORTHLESS mask orders.

Cut the bull**** folks.

Willful ignorance is not an excuse.

IT IS MANSLAUGHTER.

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Unreal. We continue to find out that we can treat this virus simply and easily with very good results and yet the mis-information and fear mongering is front and center. Also we need a vaccine that probably will not be effective no matter what, but hey someone will make money on it.

Again I have gotten into arguments still on how the spread is happening, I just think people do not understand exactly what a Fecal-Oral spread means. The narrative on it being strictly a airborne virus is ingrained out there and evidence to the contrary just is ignored and the Diamond Princess data is dismissed.
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Science is what the propagandists and leftists say it is.

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We've known about this drug since February.
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Jack_Crabb
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Science is what the propagandists and leftists say it is.

Sure why not?

If asked, who the most scientific scientist of our day is, I would speculate most leftists would answer Einstein.

Ok, fine, we can use him as a bench mark for all other "scientists"

Supposedly Einstein is quoted as stating: "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and getting the same results"

Since Fuacci, Burx, Redfield and the other scientists are now being measured by Einstien and they have consistency done the same thing in recommending masks and other non-starter solutions, we can quickly conclude what they are doing is insanity and have them all packaged in straight jackets and sent to Antarctica for a couple dozen years.


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@Mangymutt - or just plain evil and have them swinging from an overpass.

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There is no evidence the government wants to solve this problem inexpensively. Instead, it wishes to inconvenience the most number of people by destroying their businesses, requiring them to mask-up and socially distance, and requiring them to take multiple vaccines, perhaps on a yearly basis. The longer the crisis continues, the more the despots can violate the Constitution and issue orders without legislative action. The insanity stops when the people stop complying with worthless edicts and demand real action.
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I'm expecting to see this debunked on Good ****ing Morning America soon.

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And while I certainly DON'T want Biden, **** TRUMP, he's not fighting against the lies and masks, he's hunkered down plotting his next steps re: stepping down vs election fraud.

**** his future.
What about America's PRESENT.

But he wants to take credit for the vaccine......he's a ****ing IDIOT.

NO one but Bill Gates and Fauci will take credit for that genocide.

Question to Karl, I wanted to twat this....link is nowhere to be found.
I'm arguably a little inebriated, but vaguely recall it's not an option anymore?


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Just tweet the URL. I removed the social media buttons as they were using them to track you.

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I am in a resort like Vail or Aspen. Sickening how , I would guess, a bunch of Fake tests made them go Code Red so the place is halfway locked down. Mask signs everywhere. Everyone telling us to put on the mask. My ski rental guy getting no business. No bars open to enjoy ourselves in. Beyond insane. ONLY upside is prices to travel are super low. Cancun Cabo Cozumel you name it.....only people going are people like me who are not scared out of our mind of CV.
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You want invermectin as a widely used treatement? Reinstate the patent for it.

If it's $100/dose, it'll be in everybody's hands in a matter of days. In this "time of great need" you might even be able to buy it over the counter. You'll even be able to stock it on the shelf in case of future need.

You know I'm right.

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Ivermectin is as close to a silver bullet to Covid as you can get, for a few dollars per person. Of course that would stop the money train for Fauci, Redfield and associates and their friends.

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Anyone know a teledoc willing to prescribe it?
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@Mpekar - You PERSONALLY can get it.

That helps you. But it doesn't help anyone else beyond your immediate household for whom you could source it as well.

This is how you stop it for everyone.

Teledocs won't do dick for that, obviously.

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Wondering if Fenbendazole works similar to Ivermectin, as it is also used for deworming in pets and readily available. There is a very strong following of its off label use for cancer treatment with rather astonishing results and similarly shunned by the mainstream medical community for such use (cheap, off patent, no $$ to be made).

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@Mpekar, if you Google it there are web sites selling it, but seems to be in UK or India. That's how I sourced some tablets.
New double blind study out last week in Bangladesh showed a 5 day regimen of 12mg per day of IVM reduced infection in Covid patients compared to placebo and ivm + doxy. Seems that when you get infected, 12mg per day for 5 days is effective in getting better. No side effect was observed.
Here is a link top an abstract:
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Its clear there is an agenda at play. They know about ivermectin and other inexpensive safe ways to combat this but 1. They want you to take their vaccine and 2. They need to keep the fear going. Plain and simple. And of course the proof of vaccine to fly is really getting going. All an agenda.
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Why is it we trust Bill Gates (not a doctor lol) take on this but we ignore someone like Dr. Simone Gold or Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi (look them up) or the Great Barrington declaration? AGENDA. Whats the agenda? One idea...world economic forum great reset. Its not a conspiracy. Its on their website in plain view.
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This from an online site...

Can I Buy Ivermectin Online?

Ivermectin tablets and cream are prescription medications in the United States. As a result, one cannot just buy ivermectin online or get ivermectin OTC as pharmacies will not dispense it without first getting a prescription. The first step to getting an ivermectin prescription is consulting a medical provider. People who need an ivermectin prescription, however, can connect with a licensed medical provider using Push Health who can prescribe ivermectin cream or ivermectin tablets when appropriate to do so.

So what if your doctor wont prescribe it for you?
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From the world economic forums own website To achieve a better outcome, the world must act jointly and swiftly to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies, from education to social contracts and working conditions. Every country, from the United States to China, must participate, and every industry, from oil and gas to tech, must be transformed. In short, we need a Great Reset of capitalism. It just gets juicier from there....
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@August per Great Reset

It is natural then to shrink emotionally from the idea of what is coming. If you think that this is all about CV-19 and once people take the vax, things will go back to normal, please rethink that completely because that will not happen.

The government originally said 15 days to slow the spread and that was well over 200 days ago. Some states are locking down again. They keep pushing it off to the future and dangling a carrot like the vax or wear your mask and keep social distancing or whatever else they come up with, but these things are not promises to us. They are deliberate lies to cause us to fall in line and lock step with their wishes.
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Kennington: Go to a farm supply store, get the invermectin for horses. It's exactly the same thing. You'll just have to figure out the dosage yourself. A tube is typically for 1250 pounds. Just divide it up to match your weight.

It's even apple flavored! :P


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I may or may not know that it tastes best when immediately chased with a shot of something strong in the adult beverage department.

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Off topic a bit.. But Here We Go!
I was thinking there was a chance a state might not recognize the other electors.
**** is going to get real.

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