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2020-09-25 11:15 by Karl Denninger
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So Just Give Up Folks: America Is Done
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Can we cut the crap?

It has now been disclosed that both FBI and CIA personnel took out professional liability insurance while in the middle of the Flynn investigation.  This implies that they not only expected to do something that might lead to liability they expected the government to refuse to cover it.

That's scienter folks -- knowledge of guilt.  It's the legal standard to find someone knew what they were doing is wrong, and the difference between negligence and intentional misconduct.

Worse, since government employees are broadly immune it also is a clear demonstration that these individuals knew they were acting outside of their professional authority; they were acting with personal animus and intentionally going beyond the boundaries of their lawful remit, which is the only way you wind up personally responsible when working for the government -- whether the government is local, state or federal.

Oh, and the original and in fact only "collusion"?  It was between the FBI and an actual RUSSIAN agent.  Let that sink in; our own government law enforcement colluded with a foreign power for internal political purposes.

Is this normal?  No.

Youtube didn't like my presentation of official government statistics and pulled my video which demonstrated that in my county, and in many other counties in Tennessee, Covid19 is no more dangerous than the flu.  It produces approximately the same amount of mortality and is no material impact on the health care system, producing no more two hospital admissions a day on a 7 DMA basis since April.

Not once has there been any indication of actual trouble with regard to the health care system here.  Not once.

Is this unique?  No.  Knox County, with more than 4 times our population, has had a hospitalization rate that on the same 7 DMA basis has been less than four times ours again, all the way back to the start.

Blount?  No problem either.  Again, none of this is from anything other than official government sources.

Now are there places where there has been trouble in Tennessee?  Yep.  Shelby County (Memphis) has a mortality rate four times that of influenza.  What's the common factor between the places that have had serious trouble?  It's not that they have cities; Knoxville is a city.

It's that those regions have done nothing to interdict the known vectors as documented by their own data and have instead targeted individuals with mask mandates and specific targeted restrictions such as on bars and restaurants when the authorities know that's not where transmission is occurring.

You can't go to Church, but you can riot.

You can't go to a bar, but you can loot a store.

You can directly lie to Congress -- and the American people, along with multiple other agencies and consumer groups about how "everyone" is susceptible and we're "in the beginning of this" when they know, because multiple scientific papers have published on it, that a large part of the population is cross-immune from an unknown other previous infection.  Nobody knows which one, but that T-cell recognition exists was the only reasonable theory in February, it was conclusively demonstrated that some sort of cross-immunity existed by the end of March and now we know that it is T-cell recognition because multiple scientific papers have published proving it, including reactivity in blood drawn before Covid19 allegedly existed.  This is no longer the only reasonable theory that fits the facts as it was in February and March -- it has now been conclusively proved.

Yet this cannot ever become the subject of debate or admitted by Birx, Fauci or anyone else despite being as true as it is that the Earth revolves around the Sun because as soon as you do that exactly zero of the "mitigating" steps make sense.  Not the original lockdowns, not the mask orders, not the business restrictions.  What's worse is that vaccine development is a waste of time and money as for roughly half the people they're already immune so you're giving a shot to someone with no potential benefit.  This is forbidden under medical ethics rules everywhere since there is no possible benefit for such a person but there is the potential for harm and while Covid19 will likely be with us and circulate forever in the population the truth is that exactly zero of what we did from April forward was justified and in fact some of what was done in virtually every state qualifies as at least gross negligence and likely reaches the threshold of manslaughter.

All the way up and down our government from local to federal this has been one massive scam.  Not the virus; the virus is real.  But the CDC itself says that 74,000 of the dead had influenza.  Which killed them given that 90% of Covid infections are asymptomatic?  If you have both Covid and influenza it is as a matter of statistics likely that 90% of those co-infected were killed by the flu, not Covid.  This in turn means that roughly 70,000 alleged Covid deaths are fraudulently claimed to be Covid-related when they are in fact flu deaths.

Then there are the thousands of deaths the CDC itself catalogs as "Covid" when one of the co-morbidities is accidental or intentional harm.  In other words suicides, car accidents, falling off buildings and similar bad events.  Being infected with Covid means you get counted as a Covid death when you wreck your motorcycle!

Really?

We didn't want to take proper precautions for people at particular risk.  No, that's not all Seniors.  It is in fact those who are disabled to the point that they cannot live independently at all and required 24x7 nursing attention.  These are people who have lost their capacity for independent living and decision-making and thus we have a duty to care for them.

We killed them instead of taking care of them; 40% of all Covid deaths are among this population.  A population that, I remind you, constitutes less than 1% of the population of America and in most states is about 0.5% of the population.  Less than 1% of the population accounts for 40% of the death and exactly none of that was due to consensual actions of the person involved because by definition if you're in a nursing home you are unable to take care of your own basic daily needs in life and require on-call, all-the-time assistance.

AGAIN: WE KILLED THESE PEOPLE.

ONLY A MONSTER WOULD LET TENS OF THOUSANDS OF INFIRM PEOPLE INCAPABLE OF MAKING THEIR OWN DECISIONS OR EVEN WIPING THEIR OWN ASS BE SLAUGHTERED.  BUT WE HAVE.  CUOMO, WHITMER, WOLF AND MORE ARE NOT ONLY STILL FREE THEY'RE STILL IN OFFICE!

We have government agencies, including the State of Tennessee's Department of Health and the City of Nashville, which have been caught deliberately hiding those statistics and the motivation is clear: If you understood them and gave a wet crap you might demand manslaughter prosecutions or you'll band together with a few thousand others and start building a gallows in front of the halls of government yourselves.  The Tennessee Department of Health, along with others have deliberately concealed their contact tracing record.  The State of New York deliberately concealed the locus of many of their nursing home deaths by not listing them as nursing home residents if they were taken a hospital before they died!  That's intentional fraud, just as it was with Flynn and the motivation to do so is clear.

Our willingness to sit back and let our health and law enforcement agencies get away with this crap for decades is why we're here.  If the DOJ had been oredered by Trump to shut down the FBI's investigation and people were fired repeatedly until the order was followed the Democrats would have certainly tried to impeach but they would have failed as Trump had every right and ability as President to declassify and release all of this information ten minutes after he was inaugurated.

He did not do so.

And we did not make him -- or the FBI -- do so.

Yet there are 330 million Americans -- and nowhere enough of "them" to stop us if even a few hundred thousand were to insist and mean it.

Don't tell me how terrible the economy is, or how terrible what's going on in Louisville is, or ask me for help.  If you're part of the government, on fire and I have a glass of water in my hand -- I'm going to drink it.  I would not even piss on you to put you out.

The "March For Jobs and Freedom" that led to the signing of the Civil Rights Act has been portrayed as a "purely peaceful" exercise.  Bull****. It was in fact organic and the idea originated a long time before it happened in the mind of a man named A. Philip Randolph.  Both he and MLK met with Kennedy and scared the **** out of him.  The implied threat of course was that if the Act was not passed Washington DC might be occupied and burnt to the ground.  With a couple hundred thousand men, most of them young and full of cum willing to do it the government was not in a position to say "No" whether the threat was explicitly communicated or not.

Kennedy tried to defuse the entire thing; he convinced MLK and Randolph to move it to a weekday and cut it from two days to one, both in an attempt to keep attendance down.  He also closed all of the bars and liquor stores in the city on that day.  And MLK took that ball and ran with it, delivering I Have a Dream.

But if you think a quarter of a million people could not have turned ugly at the drop of a hat and sacked the town -- you're wrong.  They most-certainly could have and there wouldn't have been **** the government could have done about it either.  Oh sure, they would have fired on the crowd if it really got out of hand.  But those doing so would have died, and not well either.

Oh and let's not forget that Kennedy ****ed MLK for his insubordination after the crowd was safely gone -- one month later he instructed the FBI to investigate him.

Read that again: Kennedy instructed the FBI.

So.... the President can do that, can't he?  Yep.  And yet has Trump instructed the FBI to get to the bottom of the bull**** going on right now?  Nope.  Not with Flynn, not with the rest of the garbage with Mueller, not with the two dozen "accidentally" erased phones, not with the facially invalid patents on coronaviruses, not with the perjury of Fauci and Redfield before Congress and not with Birx running around using her vagina to peddle lies in Knoxville and elsewhere either.

Oh, and not with Amazon, Nike, WalMart or anyone else evading slave-labor laws nor for that matter most of the packaged-foods industry doing so with regard to Palm Oil and the literal forced-labor used to collect and process it, which we knew quite some time ago and now even the AP is reporting it.

I suppose you don't have a dream if you're an Asian slave, whether it be a Malaysian or Chinese gig you're caught in, eh?  You see, that dream would decimate the stock price of Apple, Amazon, P&G and damn near every other major food and cosmetic company, along with all the firms sourcing this and that from over there.  Never mind being the source of virtually every pandemic flu and other viral strain throughout history -- including this one.

And since you won't put a stop to any of this you got ****ed when Covid showed up, your Grandmother was murdered and you still don't give a **** eight months later.  You're cowering behind your mask while cities burn and Trump chortles with glee at the tens of thousands of votes he gets every time a black business is sacked.  Do you really think he wants it to stop?  Bull****.

Were there a couple hundred thousand people willing to go to DC and demand it all stop or else -- it would stop.

But today nobody will issue that "or else" -- instead we have crazies who burn, loot and shoot because the cops in Louisville shot back after a man fired at them.  

By the way, that sermon I linked up above?  The Diocese to which that church belongs is now "investigating" the pastor who delivered it, and likely will discipline -- and perhaps defrock -- the Priest who had the temerity to point out the truth from the pulpit.

You'll sit for that too.

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After reading about the FBI yesterday I'm now thinking about stopping any idea of saving the system and just get out of the way while it all burns down.

Nobody's in jail after 4 years, it looks like they just want the corruption to continue. Meet the new boss, same as the old one.


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For a while now I've been of the mind that Trump is quietly encouraging the riots as he knows the unrest is pushing new voters to him. The corruption is endemic in dee-cee.
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I am old enough to remember when in August Fauci said...

Its sort of like a one-two punch, Fauci said. Its conceivable that the T cells that youve made in response a couple of years ago three, four, five years ago when you were exposed to a relatively benign coronavirus that causes the common cold, could actually hang around, and when youre exposed to the SARS-Coronavirus-2, could have some degree of protection, he said, referring to the novel coronavirus.
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I've tried my best to convince people of the nonstop financial and healthcare related nonsense over the last few years. Now add on the covid related bull****, but it's hard to win an argument when the other side just claims you're a grandma killer or Trump lover - even when I have no love for Trump.

So, I've pretty much resigned myself to the same idea, the country as we know it is gone. The next decade is going to be damned ugly. Trying to figure out a better place to head to, to avoid this nonsense. Any ideas?
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@Pete01234 - There is none. Either duck it or fight -- and yeah, the latter may get ugly.

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The problem is the federal, state, & local bureaucracies are no longer beholden to the elected representatives, and the elected representatives are no longer beholden to the voter. Many voters are now part of the FSA, so they vote for their free sh!t.

Go to Open Secrets.org and see how many DOJ, DOD, and other cabinet level agency bureaucrats are donating to the Biden campaign. It is amazing how quickly a conservative/Republican will be prosecuted and run out of an Administration versus a liberal/Democrat. Look at Gen. Flynn being brought to trial versus all the FBI and gov't lawyers who framed him for doing nothing wrong. There was one sacrificial FBI lawyer who has pleaded guilty to one felony count of making false statements.

The US District Judge in the Flynn case is fighting the DOJ from dropping the charges and even going to the appeals court. The judge is now longer an impartial jurists, but now a prosecutor. WE have a f'ed up gov't and many people don't give a damn.

There is civil war going on right now in the USA. Between the statists/socialists/communists and the constitutionalist. The gov't is mostly statists and want their power and they have allies in congress and big business to help them. Why is small businesses and the middle class being crushed in this "pandemic? Because the small business and middle class are mostly constitutionalists who like to have the freedom to pursue their happiness.

Being ordered by gov't from attending church, but gov't allowing protests, abortions are designed as propaganda to demoralize freedom loving people. Most statists are selfish people and like to take what is yours and make theirs. Too many lemmings have fallen for this propaganda.

The people who came here from Cuba, Venezuela, Africa, and other countries living under oppression see the same methods used in their countries being used here. The gov'ts these rioting idiots want to now impose on us are the gov'ts people have been running from.

The big prize for the statists is the fall of the USA. Once we are "converted" the dictators and globalists will have their wish. Each election is important and the importance seems to be increasing each election cycle. I have a hard time believing this election is even close, but you can't underestimate the stupidity of people. Trump is far from perfect, but Biden (really Harris) is an empty suit for the statists to really stuff the bureaucracy and break the middle class and small business community in the USA.

The hard working and taxpaying people are being accused of being racist and fascists, when in reality the rioters and their supporter are the racists and fascists. Cloward-Piven/Alinsky playbook is being played out right in front of our eyes. The question is when is the straw that breaks the camels back going to happen, if it ever does happen?



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@Ee4fire - "The question is when is the straw that breaks the camels back going to happen, if it ever does happen?"

That is the question....I think there is a red line - the 2A.

If they go after the 2A or outlaw MSRs (which will most certainly happen under a Biden/Harris admin), I think we will see the million man march to DC....and the outcome won't be pleasant for the statists/socialists/communists you mention.
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This is not the first time we've seen government test sewage for CV-19, but it's being expanded.
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HHS wants to test 30% of U.S. wastewater for the coronavirus as an early warning system

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/25/hhs-want....

That was nice work again Rand Paul; wish he had more time in that exchange. Like others here, the exchange between Paul and Fauci made me recall how a month ago Fauci was himself making positive comments about the T-cell cross reactivity studies that were published. This also reminds me of Faucis flip flop on masks, on HCQ, on policy prescriptions (e.g. lock downs) all captured on the record. It seems his first answer to things is the truth, and the lies come later. Recently Dr. Redfield has also given statements that 90% of Americans remain susceptible to the coronavirus. So its a full on messaging blitz against the herd mentality [sic]. The celebrity technocrats going all in against herd immunity may get away with it in an administration change...that's probably what they're betting on. A new administration will support the narrative that masks and lockdowns saved the day, and also provide cover for the state and local government officials who are helping out in the scheme. If the Orange Man gets reelected, there's a risk the CV-19 zealots will see they're part of a cult.

The narrative has also been slip sliding again, in response to the high case count in colleges, with very low hospitalizations and no death. The water cooler talk now is hooked on the previous lines about long term health consequences. But in reality there are long term health effects for many people for many common illnesses...but let's all get hysterical and hide under our desks.
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I agree that a mass gun grab would be a "red line."

However, that's not how it will work. "They" have White-males (primary gun owners) atomized, and as long as they keep them atomized, White-males will get pushed around and chipped away until they are irrelevant.

"They" will go after the guns by having W-Ms register them with the IRS, or some such agency. Then it will be a small tax, which will grow larger and larger, until, one by one, the W-Ms capitulate and sell them to the .gov.

If the Dems get everything, including packing the USSC, NOTHING will stop them. Nobody is going to lose their **** over having to register the guns, because people are not going to spotlight themselves for falsifying their 1040, which will be a felony. Then, one by one, people will be served warrants and their guns confiscated. The "law abiding" will have their guns registered, and will be saying "Better you than me."

Then the taxes start, and eventually, people will be taxed per year per gun. Eventually, these "law abiding" won't be able to pay the taxes and will turn them in. Some won't, but they will be known and easy targets.

The ONLY way there is a mass revolt is for there to be a mass grab. "They" are stupid, but not that stupid.

The ONLY reason "they" have not been stopped cold has been because W-Ms are atomized and not willing to lose everything for their own private protest. People will only revolt when their backs are to the wall, or there is safety in the herd. Right now, neither apply, and that is by design.

Drip, drip, drip...

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At a certain point in time there will be enough people that have have nothing to lose...

And perhaps an Unintended Consequences-type of revolt takes place.

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@Billhrny "I think there is a red line - the 2A."

I went to Capitol Hill when the assault weapons ban was being put in nearly thirty years ago. I got harassed by badge carrying goons at a gun grabber's press conference. I talked to my reps, or their staffers.

That and more will be enacted for your safety.

We had a couple decades to resist. Now it's just about done.

Reason: >20 years ago.
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@Jwjw - Thank you for your efforts to voice opposition with the original AWB. Few people take the initiative to travel to DC and let their voices be heard...again thanks.

I do have hope...there is a difference between now and ~30 yrs ago...MANY more people have guns, especially ARs/MSRs....but many don't advertise they have them.

30 yrs ago there were probably no more than 500,000 ARs in civilian hands, now I think the current stats are like 15-20 million..and that's a low estimate. That's huge....that's an army...and that's not counting handguns.
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What's going to change? What's going to wake up the masses? My god, look at what has taken place over the last 6 months. STILL NOTHING! These zombies just get in line and ask for more. They love it.

I am embarrassed to be an American. **** every one of you that wear a mask and bend over to these communist bastards. You deserve everything that's coming. You just keep being a good little communist sympathizer. You'll be digging your own grave soon enough.

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So it is in ONE place - WHY? If you don't know why I ain't going to waste my time explaining it!

@Pete1234 said this:
"I've tried my best to convince people of the nonstop financial and healthcare related nonsense over the last few years. Now add on the covid related bull****, but it's hard to win an argument when the other side just claims you're a grandma killer or Trump lover - even when I have no love for Trump.

So, I've pretty much resigned myself to the same idea, the country as we know it is gone. The next decade is going to be damned ugly. Trying to figure out a better place to head to, to avoid this nonsense. Any ideas?"

THEN

@Tickerguy said this:
"@Pete01234 - There is none. Either duck it or fight -- and yeah, the latter may get ugly."

WELL, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE LAST 4TH TURNING THIS WAS SAID:


"If you will not fight for right when you can easily
win without bloodshed;

if you will not fight when
your victory is sure and not too costly;

you may come to the moment when you will have to fight
with all the odds against you and only a precarious
chance of survival.

There may even be a worse case.
You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory,
because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

-- Winston Churchill


Crystal Ball I don't have - HOWEVER - I got a REAL SUSPICION that those that THINK/TRY either 1) "to figure out a better place to head to, to avoid this nonsense." and/or 2) "duck it" ARE IN for a BITTER and LASTING disappointment!

Just SAYING!
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http://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/....

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We are faced, then, with a choice between two possible paths. One path leads to the consolidation of multilateralism as the expression of a renewed sense of global co-responsibility, a solidarity grounded in justice and the attainment of peace and unity within the human family, which is Gods plan for our world. The other path emphasizes self-sufficiency, nationalism, protectionism, individualism and isolation; it excludes the poor, the vulnerable and those dwelling on the peripheries of life. That path would certainly be detrimental to the whole community, causing self-inflicted wounds on everyone. It must not prevail.


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We need to dismantle the perverse logic that links personal and national security to the possession of weaponry. This logic serves only to increase the profits of the arms industry, while fostering a climate of distrust and fear between persons and peoples.


2020 keeps getting more interesting. Now the pope is telling us we need to give up our arms and not resist as smiley.
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Well the Pope only dies once like everyone else, and whether you believe in Hell or not, and whether you're right or not, if you whack him you're both going to the same place.

The only debate is over whether it's 6' under or a lot warmer place.

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Government slugs are planning to scan us every time we go for a cup of coffee at the local coffee shop or get a quart of milk at the grocery store. Every time we make a move we're going to have to pass through a government checkpoint. Check out Abbot Labs' 'Navica' app.
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We're long past the point where the Citizens are required by the Constitution to shut down the existing government and replace it with something closer to what the Founding Fathers intended.
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Electricity is a luxury, not an essential part of life

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@Loonster, I read it like this:

We need to dismantle the perverse logic that links personal and national security to the possession of _arms and needles_. This logic serves only to increase the profits of the _medical_ arms industry, while fostering a climate of distrust and fear between persons and peoples.

Maybe we should get serious about less funding to the medical industrial complex.

I have little tolerance for those who use quotes, specifically Romans 13, to advocate for allowing rogue government to do whatever it desires. I have a natural right to defend myself and my family. From that, it follows I have a right to defend my property.
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Now the pope is telling us we need to give up our arms and not resist...

I think you mean the ANTI-pope...Bergoglio is not even Catholic. He a Marxist POS.

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We need to dismantle the perverse logic that links personal and national security to the possession of weaponry.

So he has no need for the Swiss Guard then, right?


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"Corona Virus will come and go, but government will NEVER forget how easy it was to take control of everyone's life; to control every sporting event, classroom, restaurant table, church pew, and even whether you are allowed to leave your house.
Billhrny
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Incept: 2019-06-19

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One path leads to the consolidation of multilateralism as the expression of a renewed sense of global co-responsibility, a solidarity grounded in justice and the attainment of peace and unity within the human family, which is Gods plan for our world. The other path emphasizes self-sufficiency, nationalism, protectionism, individualism and isolation.

I guess my beliefs are not according to "God's plan for the world" as the Pope states. Give up to the Gloabalists....give up our tools of self defense (and national defense if shtf)...and we will all live happily ever after....what BS. I read the full UN statement...wow.
Fumei
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Incept: 2019-01-08

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That evil Dago can **** off back to Argentina, preferably by swimming. Jesus of Nazareth issued an order to his disciples, 'Whoever has none, must sell his cloak, and buy a sword.'
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