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Gauntlet33
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@Karl, what's your opinion on living in western North Carolina? Do you have any idea what the politics are like there?
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No idea. What I DO know is that large parts of NC are a ****ing mess. Then again there are parts of MOST states I would not live in, so...

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@Redjack
Well if she made bank fine, but if she was turning tricks on the side that was most likely the main source of that bank!
Because servers don't make that much!

That said Location figures into things as well!

Yes 80% of restaurants do fail your friend is very correct those statistics to be honest have been around for a long time in fact Gordon Ramsay talks about it all the time....

but most of that failure happens to either be a bad location they're serving food that is not customary to that area and thus no one's interested....

And of course general mismanagement is also a problem as to why restaurants fail however I can tell you it's not unique to restaurants to be quite honest 80% of small businesses that start up fail most of which fail within a six-month period!!

And there again it comes down to management!

the concept that the owner has to be there continuously or everyone's going to rob them blind.... I'm not exactly against that theory however I can say that it's not always the case!!

As far as the whole tip jar concept goes...
That's one thing that none of us ever discussed yesterday on here...
(By the way some owners want a cut of the tips which is bull****!
(Unless they're doing the work)!

see that's the deal if I wait a table and I get a $50 tip then the establishment expects me to split that $50 with everyone else in there and I say **** them they didn't do the work they're not the ones that offered that service I'm not splitting it with anyone but they're again it all comes back to a cheapskate owner who doesn't actually want to pay a wage!!
I know I know "but but but they can't afford it wha wha wha wha wha wha yeah cry me a river, if they are that broke then I'd leave because it looks like they won't last long anyway! Of course it's also just another the other employees will be jealous of your tip, so we must share so that no one whines and cries!

If you run the business correctly you should be able to pay your bills and your help if you don't run the business correctly and or there again you're serving things no one really wants and especially at crappy prices then you will go out of business this is true about any business not just restaurants!

shops on the other hand can actually make some damn good money granted yes it depends on who you work for!!

And keep in mind that there again location is everything!

You know it's like if you have a small town fancy restaurant that is sort of a black Thai place to go and your chef there they may still decide not to pay you a lot of money and they're going to justify not paying you technically what your worth is a chef based on what other restaurants are paying in that town they do that to justify them being cheap skates!!

However if you're a chef and a fancy bigger city restaurant yes you may actually make decent money 40 to 50 Grand a year I'm told!
Jeepguy
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@Jack_crabb
No actually it's not arrogant nor is it absurd... and the reason being would be the tip jar!

See there's a reason why a lot of these joints introduced a tip jar...
Part of it is Sally got angry that Betty got a bigger tip than she did and went and whined to the boss...

a lot of it really however comes down to the fact that you are paying a portion of your co-workers ****ing salary because the owner is too ****ing cheap to actually be your employer and pay you!!

then to make matters worse a lot of owners actually expect a cut of that tip money whether they ****ing lift a finger or not!!

And then of course places that don't have the tip jar system well there again you're not going to make more than the establishment because that would mean that the customer is tipping you nearly double what the meal costs!!

Especially now that the covid nonsense has dragged the business down the still tipping customers every single one of them would have to be tipping enormous amounts of money in order for the little old waitress to make nearly as much as the establishment makes!

If what you say is true then you would agree that it's awfully arrogant and totally absurd for anyone to scoff the idea that the struggling small business owners can go get jobs as waiters and waitresses make some bank and fix their business problems!

In fact anyone who's having a debt crisis immediately needs to see if they can become a waitress or waiter perhaps even bartender and you know their debt problems are totally going to be solved!!

Expect a penis shaped recovery!
Jeepguy
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@Tickerguy
Perhaps in your industry yeah I could see that, of course commission rates are generally higher than most customers tip,

So I'm going to have to argue that you're comparing apples to oranges talking about an actual salesman working on commission making bigger paychecks than you, compared to restaurant server staff reliant on whatever amount of money the customer chooses to leave behind!

Now I could see if we were talking about a realtor versus your salesman okay that's comparable... But a tipped server staff member is totally not in either of those clubs and should never be compared!

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Speaking of financial interests:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3PSHrde1o....

Also as to the above, check out the info from the first comment.......
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@Gauntlet33

Not sure about your age - but NC is not retiree friendly.

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I didn't say "arrogant" I said "ignorant". There is quite a difference. And I stand by my words.

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Ahhhh but arrogance can lead to ignorance ignorance can also be arrogance!

Yes, stand your ground!
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We are now in the twilight zone. CNN of all media outlets, showed this. I just found it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=yout....
Gauntlet33
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@Beechdriver and @Karl, thanks for the responses.

I'm in my mid-40s, so not worried about retirement-friendly communities. Just was wondering if there would be a big reason to avoid that particular state as weather is very important to me and it looks to be in the range I would be comfortable with.
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For those who want to be effective in political change, these classes are cheap to attend, are practical, and teach how to get things done. They really teach how to be effective. "Burn your victim card."

https://facl-training.org/our-mission

In the classes they also teach how to analyze if you may be effective or not, and they tell people to be wary of wasting time on infective political activities.
Whitehat
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CNN knows two things. People's memories are short and that they will bond with organizations adopting their point of view. CNN is trying to be on the right side of history as cracks form in the narrative. This is nothing more than a cold, hard business decision.

Remember that media exists to give people a strong negative emotional reaction. Negativity draws people in; if it bleeds, it leads. The one thing that media avoids at all costs is telling their customer base that which they do not wish to hear. A lot of regular people are calling bull**** on this virus scam and do not wish to hear more of it. CNN's core demographic is rebelling against the current party line regarding the virus scam, and CNN's executives and big names know it.

Here is a salient example. Our local ABC Eyewitness News is the area leader, actually very good coverage and the goto for any crisis. Over two decades ago they announced at the height of political correctness that they would no longer announce the race of crime suspects, perpetrators or convicted criminals. Even when a criminal was at large, they would not announce race by policy. Their ratings never went down, actually up due to other reasons.

Ok, hold on to your ulcer belts. About two weeks ago they promoted and showed a small piece regarding racial disparity in criminal activity. This is at the height of BLM and other protests. All that BLM did like the virus scam discussed above did was to place an exclamation after the word "bull****" that people have been using right as their tolerance for it was at its lowest. People tolerated the PC of not announcing race even if for purely identification purposes as they could make snide remarks and edit the news with their friends. Let's just say that people filled in the details of the crime reports in their own special way. It was common in my community for people to discuss the monotony of the news with, "Yea, one ****** killed another ******, next."

It is possible to tolerate **** for a long time. The problem is that people noticed that the escape hatches of their lives and peace are being ****ed with in a big way. Now let's add in some fear and LOTS of free time. Then the little indignities of having one's intelligence insulted by the news media become a very big issue, and then it is an issue for advertisers. Let's just say that it is no longer cute to not offend special interest groups when your real customers are switching off due to having had their fill of bull**** for a few decades. It works like this. Let's say that you have some habit of doing something obnoxious that your wife really does not like, but you are a very good and loyal spouse, no problem. Once you become human garbage by doing really bad **** in the relationship is it not amazing how every little ****ty thing that is really insignificant can be recounted for you on the nasty little trip down the relationship *******. Well it ain't just women who react this way to really bad ****.

Right now Americans are getting bitched slapped into the realization that their lives have always sucked, most of them wasted, that they had to tolerate and swallow an amazing amount of bull**** and for what? The line is getting crossed as they are now facing something real which is making them remember everything that they tolerated just to ****ing be at this point in time. Like a person realizing that she wasted decades with a piece of **** spouse, the resentments come from the little things. People right now are honestly wondering if being dead, in prison, homeless or running a crime spree would have been better than being a nice little Herb-ling who tolerated all of this little **** that adds up over time.

People are beginning to turn around and look at lots of other situations and people in them and say, "Gee, i only tolerate you. Why?" They are actually saying this to government workers and officials and to more others than you think. Remember that they are angry at themselves for letting it go on so long.

The worst rage is when people angry at themselves find outside targets. This is why divorce is so nasty. The normal people of this country to a large degree want a divorce.

Predictions: expect classic shows like "All in the Family" to be rediscovered. You are going to see bars and local pubs become effectively private. They will be places where people are not nice and speak their minds. Expect talk radio to get a lot more blunt and nasty.

The media people must have been getting a lot of **** via email, fax and paper mail. If I was in their shoes, i would have been afraid to open anything delivered for me. i have inside info. They are in fear of their careers and personal safety. My very pretty friend is very scared at what is coming over the transom. They see the writing on the wall.

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What were you doing over the years as your children's future was being destroyed? Do not expect them to fix your mistakes or tolerate you for them.
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So when will we hear the Americant version of this?
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Tickerguy wrote..
I had a sales person that took home checks larger than mine as the CEO several times, and I signed the checks so I know that's not bull****. He worked on commission and that mother****er could sell ice cubes to Eskimos.

He was GOOD.

But people that good are RARE in any field.


Years ago I worked on developing EDA (electronic design automation) software. We had a sales guy who appeared to be as dumb as a stump. He really had no understanding at all of electronic design. Yet, he could sell it like crazy, it was weird, like hypnosis.

We'd go into a customer site, meeting with engineers who were experienced and knew this stuff really well.

At the end of the meeting the sales guy would ask how many licenses they would like to purchase. They'd say "this is really cool, but we can't afford it right now. Let's meet again next year".

Then he keeps talking, asking them no technical questions but just schmoozing, then 10 minutes later asks "How many licenses would you like to buy today".

They would reply "Three, please sell us three licenses today". Weird, never understood how that worked.
Whitehat
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It will not go down that way as there are vastly more ways to soft land still waiting for people and this country. This is not to say that we will not fail and enter some sort of malaise or depression leading to ultimate decline and regionalization. If one looks at the concerns of the media and powerful, actual violence and being physically messed with in their worlds is at 5% which is significant enough for a person to notice. They are more concerned with the loss of enterprise, relevance and ultimately employment. A significant percentage also fear loss of power and influence. As outsiders, we are astonished at these concerns since the net worths are so high. People from our circles simply project our mentality that we can just take our millions and have a pretty awesome life. For these people a lot of what they enjoy involves access and being part of a network. There are things that money cannot buy from that which feeds the ego to access to situations and communities of spirit. This is where the tin foil hat crowd goes nuts as they paint this picture that it is all Epstein style stuff and witchcraft. Perhaps, but more likely is that it is getting invited to cool places, not having to pay for things, private homes being lent to them, having friends who think like them, finding mates for themselves and their children who are part of the club. Unless they come from extreme wealth or long aristocratic history the political class is often just nibbling on the margins of this world. The powerful in media and business are deeper.

The best way to understand is imagine being surrounded by people with whom you have nothing in common, no desire to interact with, conflicting ways of living and recreating, outlook, manners. It is something that i personally live with and informs my decisions. Well the elite and powerful cannot bear the thought of losing access to their world and they must be a part of what they are doing to maintain their connections. It is a form of fear. There is no grand conspiracy that they must do certain things to the society like the tin bin assumes from this. It is that one must be a player to be in the game and maintain contact with other players. It is like a mathematical rule. Yes, there are complexities as to how people can get in and move up as outsiders have done for centuries even recounted in vernacular culture, but when something defines you as what you are to this extent, it is protected with cold logic.

When media leaders and other powerful people make decisions when interacting with the pedestrian world, it is not out of malice but a class distinction that they are using them to fund the life that they think that they deserve. This is the flaw when many diverse groups live together and profit from each other. If one finds the other distasteful to any serious degree, he finds a way to use him with nary a care for his cultures well being. This is why mass immigration is bad, but is also why having elites of power, money, monopoly, different standing under the law is also just as dangerous due to the disconnection.

We originally had a system of common culture respecting different talents and abilities. In this manner the positions which have now become elite were still subject to the general culture and cared about its participants at minimum for practical reasons. Once the elite culture wanted to distance itself from the mass culture, it used its money to create a slum, ghetto, Chinatown type situation where they act for themselves only. Once they started the process of subverting the common culture's rules and morals simply by self-concern actions, they had the authority to do whatever they wished without concern for the "other." Think of it this way. No one walks into a Chinatown shop with a business or personal need with assumption of total trust. One keeps his wits about himself. The elite have their Chinatown offering you a great "deal."

Think that this is so massively ****ty that you hate them for it. It is no different than i did except that i share with many here old, conservative values. My children's father and me shared that we did not wish them to grow up in the mass culture and local community whose values we massively despised. Thus, a world was created where competition with values was not an issue. It was like we lived on another planet from our neighbors and community. It was not easy. Yes, i had a business that used the larger community to fund this endeavor, but it was not my preference for a life. The only difference between our situation and the elite discussed above is that i would not sell things inconsistent with my personal values or cheat people who were not of my outlook. Do not think that the idea did not cross my mind in time of bitterness and disappointment.

Note that having this outlook attracted the attentions of others as it shows to people of the same persuasion. It is called access.

Now you know how it works. The problem is not any particular elite or monopolist, but your neighbor who the powerful, wanna bes and cultured do not wish to be marrying their daughters and descendants or influencing their families. This is the fruit of mass immigration and cultural shift. Immigration was used by some for influence, but others reacted to it practically since they could not stop it. Think of every consumer trend, pop-culture thing, movement, whatever you have purchased over the years in these terms and it is understood. They are selling to you, and do not care about a culture and people who are not their own.

It is not a conspiracy to meet some new challenge or exploit an opportunity, simply business with OTHERS.

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Keeping the underground economy keeps the peace and allows rebellious elements to protest their condition without actually protesting the government.

What were you doing over the years as your children's future was being destroyed? Do not expect them to fix your mistakes or tolerate you for them.
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WhiteHat
It has been explained to me as "Wear the uniform of the team you wish to play on."
Human nature is that we want to associate with people who share our outlook and values, and exclude those who do not.

The interesting life is at the boundaries. I manage a factory, and have an engineering background. It is useful to know some of the culture of the guys and gals who work for me and be able to relate to them, but it is not my world. Nor do they expect it to be. My brother in law is a president of a multimillion dollar corporation. His plastic fake development is simply not a place I would willing live.


I am content in my life as he is in his. The difference is where I live I have more freedom of opinion than he does.
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@WhiteHat, I wish I shared your view of the elite, but my research has shaped my belief that most of the billionaire / trillionaire elites are in fact evil and do want to cause death and suffering to the "masses". Exhibit A - Georgia Guidestones. Exhibits B through ZZZ only further cement that point of view.
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Jack_Crabb says:
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I didn't say "arrogant" I said "ignorant". There is quite a difference. And I stand by my words.


And to prove what ignorance is Jeepguy says:
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Jack_crabb
Ahhhh but arrogance can lead to ignorance ignorance can also be arrogance!

Yes, stand your ground!


Jeepguy, I might be showing my ignorance, but I can't see how your above statement disproves this premise.
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but to scoff at the notion that top performers can make more than the owner is merely absurd and ignorant.


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Whitehat
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Redjack wrote..
I am content in my life as he is in his. The difference is where I live I have more freedom of opinion than he does.

you just summed it up perfectly. People who are members of the power elite are actually very much prisoners. They develop a siege mentality. They are also bound to support certain causes and ideologies. Much like being in a prison, they can develop a dangerous nastiness. When one sees a lot of the Bill Gates types and other high level politicos, even some in media, there is an anger present born of fear. Fear of loosing something. What is it? See below. That fear makes them dangerous.

Here is a good book to help understand how communism develops its messianic drive where people will live in absolute misery chasing its dream. It also describes how it perpetuated itself for all modern time.

"Fire in the Minds of Men: Origins of the Revolutionary Faith" by James H. Billington, historian and Librarian of Congress

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Keeping the underground economy keeps the peace and allows rebellious elements to protest their condition without actually protesting the government.

What were you doing over the years as your children's future was being destroyed? Do not expect them to fix your mistakes or tolerate you for them.
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The post office where I have my P.O. box has a long corridor lined with P.O. boxes and 3 smaller P.O. box lined corridors, my P.O. box is at the end of one of the smaller corridors. A couple three weeks ago I stopped by to check my box, I am walking down the long hall ready to make the turn toward my box when an older guy who is coming out of the same smaller hallway does a sudden stop, puts his hands towards his chest and then takes a step back. Kind of like what you would do when you meet an old friend by surprise "Holly Crap, I didn't expect to see you here" type thing.

I did not recognize him and it took me a few moments to take the whole thing in, but I got it when he raised one of his hands and pointed to my face. You see, he was wearing a mask and I was not. I guess the sight of a maskless person in public was too much of a shock for him. Once my moment of confusion was cleared up I stated to Mask Man "I need to go that way" (He was blocking my way) for about the next 3ish seconds, three-ish seconds should be a long enuff time for most rational people to make a move, he remained frozen, so I proceeded to walk past him. The look of fear in his eyes as I approached him was sad, but comical, and he staggered backward against the opposite wall.

I am hard of hearing, have been my entire life, masks, face shields and other barriers make it more difficult for me to not only hear, but benefit from social ques. Because hearing loss is non-visible (Not like a wheel chair or what not) I have gone to great lengths to adjust my limitations so that others don't have to. I read lips, take in facial expressions and other non-verbal clues we all give off. BUT because of WA States idiotic mask mandate I now refuse to wear my hearing aids.

So Mask Man is actually waiting for me in the long hallway, in what I can only assume is an effort to chastise me for not wearing a mask (While in a FEDERAL building) he follows me out, saying something that I could not make out, nor did I care. Once we finally got out of the building I stopped, smiled, looked him straight in the eyes and laughed. He was not a happy mask wearing camper and if corona virus could cause ones head to explode, his would have.

Currently WA, and OR states are having massive wild fires, the air in this part of the world is an orange/brown haze, the smell of burnt embers is in the air and the soot is finally starting to accumulate.

For THAT I will wear a mask.

All Jay Inslee and Kate Brown needed to do to get everyone to comply with face masks is burn down the forests....Dang I hope that doesn't give those two fools any ideaa.

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I wish I shared your view of the elite, but my research has shaped my belief that most of the billionaire / trillionaire elites are in fact evil and do want to cause death and suffering to the "masses".


Except for Bill Gates, he loves you.

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@Gauntlet33 -- yes, agree with your point totally and is consistent with my post. The closer to the top, the more isolated and fearful and out of touch with people. Our society was supposed to be one where no matter the level of achievement or wealth people were of the same outlook and cultural values. In the absence of that people fear and try to control each other, hell even their own children, to the point where murderous thought becomes a possibility. Narcissism born of fear is pure evil.

Exhibit B:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09....

Good for Me But Not for Thee Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmers Residence Getting $1.1 Million in Security Including an 8-Foot Tall Fence
By Joe Hoft thegatewaypundit.com Published September 9, 2020 at 12:09pm

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The renovation will include an electrified fence that Whitmer claims is necessary because of threats she has received.


Sounds like fear to me.




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Keeping the underground economy keeps the peace and allows rebellious elements to protest their condition without actually protesting the government.

What were you doing over the years as your children's future was being destroyed? Do not expect them to fix your mistakes or tolerate you for them.
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@Whitehat

Voted you down and the reason is CLEARLY obvious, that is, if you had been a bit more forth coming about the BOOK you recommend - as the Quote below states about it:

"The book analyzes the ideas that inspired European revolutionary movements from the 1700s to the 1900s."

THIS IS AMERICA, AMERICA INSPIRED OUR REVOLUTION, and OUR INSPIRED AMERICA has SHED BLOOD and TREASURE to SAVE those ingrates across the Atlantic Ocean with their BS.
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Whitehat,
On my 3rd read of that book right now. I am surprised Billington was allowed to publish the book while being the Librarian of Congress. I will say that when I first read it, being a charcoal burner in the forest of Italy sound very appealing.

You are correct about the fear. My sister and BIL live in fear that someone will denounce them, that they will be viewed as "To" fill in the blank.

Religious.
Rich
Poor
Middle Class.
Upper class.
Etc.

Everything from the car that they drive to the purchase of a vacation home is denominated on what social standing demands that they do. Living where I do, I don't have that level of fear.

I am going hunting in the fall with my "back home" friends, whom I have known since I was 5. My Brother in Law and sister no longer have those type of friends, because their current group would not approve.

My friends will be at my funeral, assuming they are in a condition to go to it. I don't think any of their "friends" will.

But they have a vacation home, a German luxury car, and a country club membership. I have a small town that is a bit redneck, but when we had a serious health episode years back showed up with so much food and support I had to turn them away at times. I know who has my back, I am not sure they do.
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