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2020-05-18 06:00 by Karl Denninger
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The only difference between rape and sex is consent.

It's quite clear that the screwing that has been going on since March, as defined by the people of this nation, can only be described as sex as I can't find even a single digit percentage of Americans who refuse consent.

Let's cut the crap.

Since the end of March it has been obvious that there was exactly zero evidence for any sort of "lockdown" of any business or person save one -- nursing homes.

I've been pointing it out.  Trump had a point with the original "15 days" simply because we didn't know where we were.  I had a working hypothesis with regard to the actual "R", methods of spread, their comparable efficacy and similar, all derived from the data available.  It was also obvious in the beginning and middle of March that ventilators were not an answer and thus attempting to build lots of them was stupid at best -- and homicidal at worst.

Even in March we had good reason to believe we were not on the cusp of a disaster.  Events such as Diamond Princess provided extremely strong evidence of this; that we were either much further along with infections than we thought we were or there was some sort of cross-immunity or resistance to this bug.

The person making extraordinary claims (2.2 million Americans will die) has the burden of proof, and the more-extraordinary the claim the higher the burden.

May I point out that while "2.2 million Americans will die" sounds apocalyptic it in fact isn't?  2.7 million, more or less, Americans die every single year.  It's normal.  The question isn't whether someone will die; it is of what will they die.  Not "with" what -- of what.

There's plenty of evidence of not only fraud but intentional causation of death during this alleged "pandemic."  Colorado has walked back roughly 15% of their claimed deaths after being caught claiming that someone who literally drank themselves to death died of Covid-19.  No, Covid-19 did not cause the person with a 0.55 BAC level to expire.  But it took exposition of fraud at that level of outrage for the State to 'fess up and reclassify those who were falsely spiking the numbers back out -- and we don't even know, because there's no independent auditing going on, whether they in fact took them all back out.

Then there are the ten states where nursing home deaths are half or more of all deaths.  Nursing homes are state regulated institutions.  The States, in several cases including New York, issued regulations forcing these institutions to accept people who were Covid-19 positive, effectively seeding the equivalent of smallpox into those facilities on purpose.  We knew very early on that if you had one of a relatively-short list of maladies you were much more likely to have a severe case of this disease and by definition anyone in a nursing home is seriously compromised in their physical health.  We have thrown people in prison for manslaughter on far less provocation that what these governors have done -- and with good cause.  Where are the prosecutions and why have the citizens of New York, along with other states, allowed their governors to kill Grandma without an immediate uprising?

Next up is the claim was that these lockdowns and other restrictions were to "flatten the curve" and prevent hospital overloads.  Most people would accept that if it was true.  But it was never true especially when you take the intentionally-caused serious cases out of the system.  New York was one of the few places with an actual hospital overload but in New York Cuomo's order on nursing homes caused roughly half the deaths and without them there would have been no overload at all.

But the most-damning evidence of all comes out of the unbroken series of serology tests along with coroner's reports (including out of NYC) that prove that for those without one of a list of underlying conditions your risk of a bad outcome is very close to zero -- and well below that of all-cause mortality.  To be blunt you're more-likely as an infant to die of SIDS than Coronavirus.  Never mind the personal choices people make that increase their risk, particularly obesity.  Would you lock down the entire nation and destroy its economy because some people choose to smoke or drink to excess, and as a result are more-subject to lethal disease?

That's what we've been doing!

To be blunt: So-called social distancing is a flat-out crock of shit.

What's even more outrageous is to claim a "public health emergency" exists when you ride down the street in an armored truck shooting people, explicitly targeting those who are fat and thus it would pose more difficulty in treating their wounds, yet that is exactly what Governor Cuomo -- and others -- did.  These governors roughly doubled the fatality count from Covid-19 through their own intentional acts with full knowledge of the danger they were putting the victims under.

In any just society that would lead to instantaneous federal indictment under 18 USC 242 with said person being arrested and thrown in the dock immediately -- and no prayer in Hell of being bonded out. Indeed the entire point of the federal government claiming a right to enforce Civil Rights at the state level arose out of exactly this sort of disparate harm intentionally aimed at certain parts of the population.  Since when does being black give you special rights that someone who is also part of a distinguishable part of the population -- specifically, being old and frail -- does not have?

May I point out the penalties clause for 18 USC 242:

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

I'll take Guillotines for $100, Alex.

Then there are the nasty set of facts on this virus to begin with.  Those who have severe or critical cases are much more likely to be deficient in Vitamin D, for example.  Vitamin D is found in fatty fish such as salmon with small amounts also found in other animal products such as beef liver, cheese and egg yolks.  It is also generated by your body as a consequence of sun exposure.  That is, locking people into their homes directly injures them in terms of their personal risk of a severe outcome from this disease and despite the screaming Karens those Spring Breakers who flooded the beaches of Florida were actually engaged in behavior that was partially protective.  Isn't it interesting that despite all the claims that we'd have spring breakers dropping like flies the actual count of cases traced to that numbered...... wait for it..... five?

Who has been taken out, put in the stocks and pelted with rotten tomatoes for their vilification of young people, inherently at less risk to start with, engaging in behavior that we now know is actually protective?

Of course doctors and other "medically minded" people killing people through malfeasance and misfeasance is not new.  Such as my article from 2014 on UK doctors killing 80,000 people a year over a decade's timewhich I remind you is far more than have succumbed to The Roma in the UK.  Did we lock down for that?  Did the UK impose house arrest or other "restrictions" on the population?

Do you think this is an isolated incident?  May I remind you that upwards of 100,000 people a year are killed in the United States by nosocomial infections -- that is, infections acquired in a hospital!  That's more than the number of people felled by The Roma thus far and it happens in the US every single year.  Every one of those deaths is not only a homicide it's a negligent homicide too; exactly zero of them are unavoidable.  The medical industry put the name "nosocomial" on them so as to evade ordinary people calling it what it is and parading it on the TV: Negligent homicide.

Where is the chyron at the bottom of CNN, Faux Snoox and everywhere else listing the number of people killed every day by hospitals and doctors through their refusal to practice reasonable infection control?  If Covid-19 is a "public health emergency" why hasn't this been a continuing public health emergency and subject to the same sort of "mitigation" for the previous 20+ years when it kills an equal number of Americans not once -- but every year without fail!

As expected there are the screams of racism! coming from people because of a skew in the death numbers toward black and brown people.  So viruses are racist eh?  Nice try.  The truth is something entirely different: Lifestyle choices made by people have an outsized impact on the course of this disease -- specifically, the Pie Hole virus frequently precedes, by decades of willful personal action, a fatal outcome for Covid-19 exactly as it does for smoking and lung cancer.

Take both the willful and intentional actions of governors along with personal choice out of the mix as causative factors for serious, critical and fatal outcomes and suddenly this bug is an epidemiological annoyance.

Now let's add in 1968.  In 1968/69 H3N2 swept the globe; it was extremely contagious and troops returning home after the Vietnam War brought it rapidly into the United States, where it killed about 100,000 people.  There were about 200 million people in the US at the time, so adjusting for population this would put the death toll at about 150,000 today.

This is almost-directly comparable in terms of the rate of death seen with Covid-19 and yet exactly zero lockdowns were put in place and the economy was not impaired.  In addition, unlike Covid-19 but in line with most influenza strains that virus also killed a lot of infants and very young children.

And if that's not enough the prognostications of doom for those places that have reopened have been universally false.  The last leg of the stool on which these "lockdowns" rested was that if we did reopen the economy on a mass basis people would die en-masse.  But now we have the facts on that as well; it simply hasn't happened in any measurable way at all and that destroys the last argument for not immediately and completely removing all of the constraints.

China lied about this current virus in many respects, including its fatality rate.  But we've lapped up many of those lies as Americans and the so-called mainstream media has amplified them along with governors on both sides of the aisle.  There are exactly zero governors who have lifted all constraints and told people the truth: We were lied to, we were wrong and our actions, in light of the facts which we now know, were unsupportable.  This bug is nasty if you are medically impaired however we can lock in nursing homes and by doing so there is little risk of overload of the medical system, never mind that since hospitals are ill-equipped to deal with infectious disease generally the correct model for those infected is a sanitarium, which we will put in place for the duration should we have problems with this or a similar disease in the future.

Busing patients to such a place (and back when they're recovered) is dirt cheap compared to shutting down the economy.  Paying the caregivers in such places a  very significant bonus as compensation for being "locked in" for the duration or until they seroconvert and no longer can transmit the infection is dirt cheap by comparison as well.  Rent and line up RVs in the parking lot if you have to.

But instead we have a nation where half the people are screaming Karens parading around in masks claiming that "we're all gonna die" from the Roma if we are not literally imprisoned in our homes while the other half spends so much on kneepads as to run and everyone else out of them. The reason for their purchases?  To hide the use of their man-pleaser on our President's schlong on a daily basis; without those kneepads said acts would be evidenced by bare, white bone sticking out of the front of their knees.

Meanwhile our economy is dying.  A huge percentage, perhaps one in four or more, small businesses that were forced closed will never reopen.  Those are the firms that employ a quarter of America.  They're also how Americans have risen from being a wage slave to financial and personal independence from all walks of life irrespective of their race, color, religion or family wealth over the entire time this nation has existed.  Destroying these people through no fault or poor decision-making of their own is an outrage literally beyond words and more than sufficient cause for the people of this nation to start penning a second edition of The Declaration of Independence.

There are many who think the Federal Government can simply "spend" to make this up.  Nope.  That will inevitably be reflected back into prices and already is happening in the grocery store.  The full impact won't be felt for a couple of years and once again those at the lower end of the income ladder will take the worst of it simply because they lack the disposable income to deal with a 20, 30 or 50% increase in the cost of certain necessities.  That's financial sex; it's not rape because, once again, you continue to consent on a daily basis instead of dragging the people responsible out of their offices by their hair.

And oh, by the way, the "masks" worn by our so-called "leaders" have been caught on multiple occasions already as nothing more than theater; as soon as they think the cameras are turned off they all immediately take the masks off.  So much for believing what they're saying in public and even ordering you to do as a matter of alleged "law."

There is zero reason for anyone, irrespective of their political leanings, to consent to any element of our federal, state and local governments at this point.  I remind you that even a low single-digit percentage of those who actively refuse and are willing to back up that refusal with whatever is necessary to enforce same is sufficient to stop all of this bullshit in one afternoon as they would outnumber every law enforcement agency in the nation by a factor of 10:1.

There are those who claim this is all a "Get Trump!" conspiracy.  For those individuals please identify the Red State that has told all the screaming Karens to go screw a goat and has dropped all the constraints -- every one of them.  Those running that bullshit are lying; The fact is that both sides of the aisle are literally orgasmic over the power they're exerting and the screwing they are imposing on the populationespecially those on the lower end of the income scale.

Leaving aside the economic damage intentionally inflicted on our nation under false pretense, the majority of which has fallen on those making less than $50,000 a year -- the ordinary working stiff -- with exactly zero having fallen thus far on federal employees and lawmakers, every single one of whom is drawing their regular salary, along with the criminal malfeasance among governors who screwed up their alleged "unemployment" systems such that those people are not getting that which they paid into as insurance premiums, the rank violations of the basic Constitutional Freedom to go where we wish, when we wish and with whom we wish under intentional false pretense is plenty of reason standing alone for the people of this nation to refuse to consent to the continued existence of the government at all levels -- federal, state and local.

This intentional criminal malfeasance by governors has included freeing persons in jail and prisons. In at least two cases, one in Blue Colorado and a second in Red Florida these freed persons, one a convict and the second being held awaiting trial said individuals now stand accused of murder -- acts they would not have been able to commit but for their release.

If you drive someone to a bank knowing they are of criminal mind and they rob said bank you get charged.  Where are the criminal charges of accessory to murder for the governors and other jurisdictions involved in these releases when said persons were of knowing criminal mind -- trivially proved since they were already in jail!

Ask yourself this: If you're not going to rise and put a stop to the grave insult served upon our Constitutional freedoms at this level, deliberately aimed at the 70% of private sector workers on the lower end of the scale while exempting from those same consequences every single lawmaker, politician and enforcer irrespective of political party or affiliation then exactly when and under what circumstance would you so rise -- and why should anyone bother so much as lifting a finger to push buttons on a keyboard, say much anything else, in furtherance of defending your alleged "freedom"?

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Jeepguy 442 posts, incept 2020-02-07
2020-05-18 07:30:01

I agree, I've noticed as well that boy oh boy though it's both sides screwing us plenty of QTards especially in the stupid realm of Facebook that will make any damn excuse!

I had some dork form make the shitty excuse that the reason that Trump bitched at the Georgia governor was because.. here is the comment......

"Pay attention Georgia had not met requirements and many more hot spots if you've never lived there couldn't possibly understand"

Lol my God if that's what these retards think then I'm sorry Trump is already dictator!!

We all know the president doesn't have the right to tell states when or when not to reopen nor can he or any federal government douchebags can't force a state to do shit!!

At best the only thing Trump-a-bump can do is to remove the bullshit national emergency and cut off the funds that these states are getting!!

Then these states would be whining yes, but boy oh boy would they be work ethic dick wagging like never before, yes without federal funds they'd be screaming for everyone to go get jobs!!

Although gee golly whiz they done fucked up most jobs so hummm how's that gonna pan out??

Yep I can see it now, Mr and Mrs middle-class perhaps upper middle-class! Sitting around in their nice posh home that yes they've earned, still able to go to their well paying perhaps cushy jobs not having to actually look for a job in the past, oh 10-20 years not knowing Jack shit about the job market living in their safe bubble, watching the news and screaming "why do you people get a job" as if they exist on every street corner!!

Man oh man Facebook is lit up right now with those who are delusional and act as if their is jobs especially decent jobs for those who lost their job!!

People like to work ethic dick wag.. it became fashionable last decade!

The reason why is simple, many of these folks was pretentious preppie types whom played "keeping up with the Joneses"

Then many lost their ass so they lost the toys, you know the boat, the certain car four wheelers and some lost their marriage and many of them lost their house!

The only damn thing they a had left to brag and dick wag about was their job and work ethic!! So thus began the annoying quote memes on Facebook and everywhere!

Yeah it's become a false religion that show-offs use to pass out lectures to deflect attention away from themselves and their bullshit!!

Low pay::::

Yes indeed employers didn't take long to realize having a job became fashionable and so they figured if everyone is more focused on fitting in simply because they got a job then they'll pay you less because you feel oh so honored to have a job, like a good little job worshiping moron!

And of course the middle-class yet again did it to themselves, employers/politicians know that the middle-class types do lecture each other into doing shit... You know being good little sheep and falling inline!!

So that means that they'll blame each other first then they'll blame the lower classes they blame the youth... But they'll hardly blame the politicians!

Of course what I do find interesting is this time around they're not going to be able to pin it on the youth! Oh I'm sure they'll try, I have seen some attempts but it's not going to work!

Could it be that politicians may actually get their asses handed to them this time?? We shall see but I'm not banking on it!!

Reason: Wording error
Greenacr 993 posts, incept 2016-03-15
2020-05-18 07:30:42

Very slowly Americans seem to be waking up to this criminal fraud. I think as some states reopen next to those that do not, the awakening will pick up speed.

I am on my first business trip since the lockdowns started visiting Crawfordsville, Indiana. Last night there was near normal traffic on my trip from Northern Ohio. My hotel is better than 50% full. Traffic seems normal as I head to one of my company's plant (which has had a few positives) that has run through this entire BS lockdown.

Saw few if any masks during my stops along the way.
Wifi 14k posts, incept 2013-02-13
2020-05-18 07:35:52

They are all aware of the bullshit, FF to 42:00,

That is here in Walton county!

"We live in a, ideocracy populated with morons." - Goldbrick

Tickerguy 202k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-05-18 07:37:42

And yet, @Wifi, these same cocksuckers are the ones who told people they couldn't sit ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY OUTSIDE, IN THE SUN.

Not one of the commissioners had the balls to say "nope!" and NONE of the citizens there decided that laying siege, whether peacefully or not, to their residence in response until they cut the crap was the appropriate course of action nor did the ELECTED SHERIFF tell them to pound sand.

"Perhaps you can keep things together and advance playing DIE games.
Or perhaps the truth is that white men w/IQs >= 115 or so built all of it and without us it will collapse."

Rhodok 7 posts, incept 2019-12-18
2020-05-18 07:45:02

"Importantly, we detected SARS-CoV-2−reactive CD4+ T cells in ∼40-60% of unexposed individuals, suggesting cross-reactive T cell recognition between circulating common cold coronaviruses and SARS-CoV-2."
Ronniemcghee 569 posts, incept 2012-07-28
2020-05-18 07:47:16

There is simple chemistry behind obesity and negative outcomes from Covid-19.
Fat cells release adipokines.
One of these is adiponectin which is very protective of our body.
It reduces inflammation/suppresses inflammation. It suppresses cardiac diseases. It suppresses metabolic disorders... among a lot of other benefits.
However, when a body has more fat cells than necessary (i.e. obesity), this causes a significant decline in the release of adiponectin; called an autocrine feedback mechanism.
This in turn causes a cascade of related health issues that weaken the body's immune system and increases the potency of the virus in attacking critical organs/systems. [Drbeen Medical Lectures]

See the study by Nigro, ~
New Insight Into Adiponectin Role in Obesity and Obesity Related Diseases.
Tickerguy 202k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-05-18 07:46:49

And there you are @Rhodok -- as I said, it was obvious back in FEBRUARY that one of two things had to be true:

1. The virus' transmission was NOT nearly as easy as people claimed, and there was a polynomial involved in terms of "R" (e.g. shit-eating .vs. respiratory, etc)


2. There was some sort of significant cross-immunity even though we couldn't identify it at the time.

"Perhaps you can keep things together and advance playing DIE games.
Or perhaps the truth is that white men w/IQs >= 115 or so built all of it and without us it will collapse."
Flappingeagle 5k posts, incept 2011-04-14
2020-05-18 07:59:03

What are you guys seeing with respect to the death rate at this time versus earlier in this "pandemic"? I ask that because I would like to know if there is any evidence of the survival rate increasing which would be indicative of a better treatment protocol being used.

I believe that we all think that there are better treatment protocols being used but are they getting any national exposure? Is it all still just die, die, die, we are all gonna die?



2024. One of Trump or Biden will not be on the ballot in November.
A housing crash will occur.
Interest rates will NOT be lowered more than 1% in total unless a housing crash occurs.
Frat 14k posts, incept 2009-07-15
2020-05-18 07:59:25

The only bright spot I have seen here is the weather has now changed for the summer; no more 30 degree nights as it was over the past couple of weeks. People are saying "Fuck all this" and paying little more than lip service to many of the bullshit arbitrary "regulations." I honestly feel that the warmer it gets, the more this will happen, Scolding Karens or not.

My personal deliverance was when my in-laws, specifically my stereotypical Boomer Karen mother-in-law, finally had enough and drove the 2 hours to visit us. She straight-up told my wife "I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE STUPID VIRUS ANY MORE, I WANT MY LIFE BACK AND TO SEE MY GRANDKIDS!" If that can happen ... well, I think the tipping point might finally have been reached. It's not gallows on the capital steps, but it's a start.

We're fucked. There will be no happy ending here; there is no going back to 'normal.'. There are only bad outcomes and worse outcomes. And we don't get to choose those, either.
Jeepguy 442 posts, incept 2020-02-07
2020-05-18 08:17:09

The people have been brainwashed for decades to "act civil" translation:::
Docile and do nothing!

As we already know bad experiments like communism, socialism and fascism does not work we are also aware that diversity does not actually work!

Perhaps the greatest experiment of the all is about to be realized! And that would be the experiment of making people "act civil"

There's a reason civilizations of the past have failed! A good portion of that happens to be they/government can't maintain the level of comfort that most became accustomed to!

Well we're losing that everyday! Men being docile and tame is completely unnatural and to be honest I believe all it does is cause even more anger! Bottling up the anger of more than 30 years yeah that's going to blow and when it does I'm afraid people aren't going to resemble our nations founders but more like the Vikings!!

Wozjoysfav 57 posts, incept 2019-05-17
2020-05-18 08:47:37

Thank you Karl for presenting a prosecutor's final summation of a case with accuracy and effect! Let us all hope the effect will be positive and forthcoming from those charged with the custodianship of our welfare!!
Videobot 18 posts, incept 2018-01-22
2020-05-18 09:21:56

What do you think about immunity granted by an infection of this? Is there ANY? Watching what is happening on the Roosevelt on Guam is very scary if 13 have been infected, recovered and tested multiple negatives and then came up with it and positive test again? WTF? If there is no immunity after infection, now what?
Tickerguy 202k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-05-18 09:24:16

@Videobot -- The PCR tests are unreliable.

You're free to hide under your desk if you want to. I'm not and am rapidly reaching the point where if someone else tries to force me to they may have an acute poisoning problem on their hands.

"Perhaps you can keep things together and advance playing DIE games.
Or perhaps the truth is that white men w/IQs >= 115 or so built all of it and without us it will collapse."
Tienkou 4k posts, incept 2007-09-09
2020-05-18 09:39:47

You got that one very right Karl. The PCR test was never designed for diagnosis.

Barack Hussein Obama - The last President of the First American Revolution.
The US Congress has abdicated its role as a governing body.

The most dangerous man is the one with nothing left to lose.
Ginnie 59 posts, incept 2017-04-03
2020-05-18 09:39:59

Too many people are enjoying this state of affairs. From middle class moms who seem to have found their calling making decorative masks to all the little tyrants that are infested in our government from top to bottom. I never dreamed so many American citizens would actually enjoy being told where and if and when they can go somewhere as tame as the grocery store. I am beginning to wonder if this will ever completely end because there's just not enough freedom loving people left to make any headway against the tyranny.

I might think I was crazy if I didn't have a few online sites like this one where I can read comments from people who still have an independent, functioning brain.
Captainkidd 2k posts, incept 2010-05-25
2020-05-18 09:52:11

You're free to hide under your desk if you want to. I'm not and am rapidly reaching the point where if someone else tries to force me to they may have an acute poisoning problem on their hands.

Exactly. I'm a free, over 21 adult.
I will make my own decisions, and will take risks as I choose.
I'm tired of the Screaming Karens telling me that I'm putting other people at risk by being out and about, by not wearing masks, and by living my fucking life as I choose to!!

If masks are of any benefit, then those that choose to wear them are protected, and my not wearing one poses no risk to them.
IF "Social Distancing" is of any benefit, then those that choose to practice this idiocy are welcome to stay the required fucking 6 feet from me!!

If I choose to be out and about, around people, and not wear a mask, and there is a risk, then I'm choosing to take that risk.
If others choose to be out and about, around people, and not wear a mask, then they are choosing to take that risk.
But it is not me that is putting them at risk. They are putting themselves at risk, just like I am.

If Karen wants to wrap herself in Surgical Gauze, wear a complete SCUBA rig, douse herself with kerosene and Isopropyl Alcohol, while staying at least 6 feet away from other people, then she is welcome to do that!!

She just needs to leave me the fuck alone.

A lawyer with a briefcase can steal more than a thousand men with guns. --Mario Puzo

It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did,
Uwe 10k posts, incept 2009-01-03
2020-05-18 09:52:30

Very slowly Americans seem to be waking up to this criminal fraud.

Yes, it would seem so.

We're more than two months into this panic now, a panic over a virus that was ostensibly spreading exponentially, with a doubling time of only a few days, and killing 3-5% of everyone who got infected.

Yet most people still don't know anyone who's had a symptomatic case, much less died of it. Heck most people don't even know someone who knows anyone who's had it, much less died of it. And if they do know someone (or know someone who knows someone) that's died of it, they've likely come to realize that the deceased was past their "expiration date" anyway.

In other words, the fear that was induced by the media hype is starting to dissipate.

My daughter is up in Montgomery County, PA (adjacent to Philly). The county is still "shut down" by Governor Wolfenstein's executive order. She goes grocery shopping regularly. She says a month ago, the fear in grocery stores was very noticeable. She went grocery shopping yesterday and remarked that people are back to nearly normal again (except for wearing masks, which is mandatory there).

It's also visible in terms of traffic on the roads, which is definitely increasing, even in areas that are supposedly still on "lock down".

Now will most people realize they were deceived, most likely intentionally, i.e. that this was a "criminal fraud" or a psyop? My guess is that they won't. They'll mentally write it off as having been necessary out of an "abundance of caution".

"Corona Virus will come and go, but government will NEVER forget how easy it was to take control of everyone's life; to control every sporting event, classroom, restaurant table, church p
Whossane 297 posts, incept 2018-01-25
2020-05-18 10:34:52


13 false positive would be completely normal during the initial testing of that many people.
Steelpiston71 8k posts, incept 2007-09-05
2020-05-18 10:34:57

@wifi's video...

The gentleman asked the expert a hypothetical in which he tested positive for covid at his Dr's office, and on the way home he was killed, and wanted to know if his death would be added to the covid death stats. She said YES.

"We have resolution authority under Frank/Dodd... How about we USE IT?" Karl Denninger, 10/07/10 on the Dylan Ratigan Show, MSNBC.
Smacktle 8k posts, incept 2009-01-20
2020-05-18 12:09:35

I hope the Karen's are coming around. I've had more than a few people who won't speak to me anymore because I don't go along to get along. I do what I want.

My other hope is that people will learn from this and not trust .gov to lead them and will think for themselves more. Is that to much to ask?!

Use your Ticker Balls
Jal 1k posts, incept 2009-03-25
2020-05-18 12:09:40

Yes. After 2024.
"... most people realize they were deceived, most likely intentionally,...."

Ihsmta 905 posts, incept 2008-04-10
2020-05-18 12:09:53

For many people I suspect that the various lock downs were almost enjoyable at first as we all got to hide at home from personal as well as society's problems as a whole. IMHO much of the fear of the virus was feigned as convenient cover for an adult version of playing hooky.

Soon the psychological, social, and financial effects began to set in resulting in what we are seeing now. Once the true costs of the hoax are evident just maybe we'll be surprised at the backlash.

"Economists are no different than the prophets of ancient Pompeii who reassured that Mt Vesuvius would never blow. After all, it never had before." Baxter Black, DVM and Cowboy Poet

"You can avoi
Crosstherubicon 23 posts, incept 2013-01-12
2020-05-18 12:10:08

Karl - what in your opinion are practical ways of withdrawing consent and voicing dissent? I have not voted since 1996 not because I'm uninformed or uninterested but rather because I see that as consent. I've gone toe-to-toe with the IRS and that did not end well. Going out and protesting is akin to asking permission of government. In my opinion people should simply go about their lives, open their businesses and visit the beaches and public places. People like Newsom, Whitmer and Cuomo are tyrants but only effective because they have the backing of the "just doing my job" cops. Some of them are pushing back but not nearly enough. These clowns should all be shamed and shunned.

So.. what do you see as effective ways of withdrawing consent?
Franco 311 posts, incept 2009-10-06
2020-05-18 12:10:15

Why did Cuomo force covid patients into nursing homes? Like, what was the reasoning behind that? It doesnt make any sense. From very early on it was known that old people were the most vulnerable to covid.
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