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Jal
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Wozjoysfav
Just turned 88

Someone at 65 years old, today, has a 20 years life expectancy.
Those were yesterday's numbers.
I expect to live long enough to see the new numbers after the virus culling.
Dagan68
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Dallas TX
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Karl-

Thank you so much for what you do.

As you are aware - I am an internal medicine physician.

I up until 2 years ago - lived in Dallas - and now am in a very remote rural area - the place I live now - is in supremely better shape than Dallas citizens ever thought about being.

I get absolutely despondent at times.

I want to tell you a little story that I heard yesterday - that has everything to do with your post. And why I get so depressed.

This virus - as you have stated - seems to take the cleaver to those who are obese, diabetic, hypertensive - or have CAD. It seems to do so more with these conditions than asthma COPD or immunocompromised status - which I find just fascinating. This is really unique in my medical training. It will be fascinating to ultimately find out why. This combination of things is called metabolic syndrome - and this seems to be a welcome mat for this virus.

This has been for me a TEACHING moment with my patients - just like your post today --- lose weight - get off the carbs - exercise - etc etc etc. And many of my patients actually listen to me - and are taking this quarantine opportunity to go for it - I have been so proud of them.

This is why I am so sad however - a former colleague of mine in Dallas - in a hospital controlled by MBAs - was called on the carpet earlier this week because he was doing the same thing - using this as an opportunity to teach his patients about weight loss, diet and exercise. He was told in no uncertain terms - that African and Latin American patients are not going to take too kindly to this weight loss stuff - the virus is clearly targeting these races because of class disparity in resources and not obesity - and if he does not quit talking like that - he will be terminated. OH YES OH YES THEY DID.

This virus is going ape s*&t in America - because of the rampant metabolic syndrome going on every where. Viruses by their very nature - cannot be racist - the crap all over the TV about this is obnoxious. The virus is finding its victims easily in this country because we eat too many french fries and cheeseburgers. But our fellow citizens do not want to hear this - and our MBA class thinks this weight loss message is going to hurt their marketing and branding.

May God have mercy on our souls - I will say with emphatic foot stomp attached - THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO BE FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET- IT IS IRREDEEMABLE AT THIS POINT -

Karl - this message from me - is in no way a diminishment of what you said in this post - Your post should be on the front page of the papers- but instead we are turning this into a racial disparity issue. AMAZING - this is not the America I grew up in.





Tickerguy
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I wish I could vote green ten times, but not even my administrator-privileged account can do that....

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Tripseven
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"I wonder, in all of this, if anyone has posted what their medical bills are for Covid "treatment". 21 days on a ventilator in the ICU must come out in the seven figure range."

First they figure out what your worth...then they decide how long you're on the vent. /s...sort of

@Dagan68...thank you for that post...incredible!!!

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**** it...I give up. Stupid is everywhere now!
Mangymutt
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Vancouver WA
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HappyTrails -
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You talk about the collapse of the healthcare system, Im convinced it already has occurred...


I am sorry to hear about your relative and hope he finds the help he needs.

People should take this as a warning: All Eyes On Corona Virus. NOTHING else matters at the moment and into the unforeseeable future.

But sadly they won't, they will continue to eat, get into bad debt, make continued poor life's choices and force those who have spent the last few years trying to Social Distance from the likes of them, to carry their burden. And our government will continue it's attempt to force us to carry the load for these peoples bad choices.

I can not speak for other parts of the country, but in this part frozen pizzas, canned foods, pastas, and other carb laden foods have been flying off the store shelves. School kids are just now learning the spring 2020 classes are not going to happen. Kids are "required" to stay in doors. Parents who are already stretched are now living in fear of corona virus while still taking care of their kids every day.

Karl gets NO argument from me on his well thought out and proper "Social Distancing" platform. YOU protect YOU, the rest of us will help out by being polite in society. But shutting down the entire economy for an illness all the experts say "Everyone is going to get" is insane and the rest of the world should not be forced to pay the price for 1) A large portions of deaths being related to co-morbidity 2) You are fortunate enuff to have your "Use By" date go past 7 decades.

Karl has (is) been spot on about what you (consistently)put in your pie hole affecting your over all health.

Karl is (has) been correct in calling out how America has taken on too much leveraged debt and not just our governments and large companies, but also The People who have for years been sold payments on every item they consume.

Because many of the government programs to stop the spread of corona virus will fail and fail bigly, there is a more than fair chance this virus will come back in the fall. And what might it bring with it this time? TB, staph, pneumonia, something we have never seen before?

Business shutting down, underemployment skyrocketing, an unsettling layer of hopelessness, not being able to plan for next week never mind two months, parents struggling to keep a roof over their kids head, while trying to keep them safe and indoors and socially isolated. And getting those children to eat non-carb based foods. Good Luck.

The longer this insane economic shut down goes on the more people will stay in doors, eat and eat and eat...Nothing good. Will be afraid to socialize and people who would benefit from actual medical care, like Happytrails relative will be denied.

Anybody who has read Market-Ticker for any length of time will know Karl cares, he cares about the financial, emotional and physical well being of his fellow American's and the world as a whole. You do not write a book like Leverage, maintain and upkeep a forum (Market-Ticker) and continue to get the word out about taking charge of your own life by taking responsibility for your own actions, if you do not care.

The sad truth is most people find it easier to believe the lies and to listen to people who have proven they want to financially******you.

The vast majority of Americans will continue to eat their jelly donuts, drink in excess and take on more unneeded debt, while blaming YOU for not doing enuff. And our big banks, medical professionals and policy makers will continue to try and FORCE you to help those people out. And if corona virus pops up again in the fall we will have many more fat, lazy and apathetic people who may be faced with a harsher than normal virus season.

If you have been reading Market-Ticker for any length of time you will know much of what Karl has been saying over the years is unfolding itself right in front of you. It may not be happening in the way he prescribed or the way you thought it would, But it is happening.

Please take the actions YOU need to protect yourself and your family. Fauchi ain't going to do it for you.

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Josie0802
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Incept: 2016-11-07

Netherlands
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Well very evocative with the pics and all. And well done. Why wait for Obama or Trump to save you? My father (a doctor RIP) always told us to "manage our own diseases. I'm grateful.
Rickylc
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Lansing Michigan
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HFLC saved my life around 5 years ago, I fell off last year and added 40lbs in what seemed like no time (actually took about 10 months).

Got back to it in January and have peeled off 15 lbs. Getting my excersice by skateboarding with my kids as I hate running and gyms, building a couple of 3x6 ft quarter pipes this weekend!

Lenguado
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I had a thought occur to me this morning about another longer term issue being created out of the current pandemic, and the outrageous fear mongering by our "betters" / leadership.

One thing being massively instilled in society today is the massive fear of germs & virus bugs. All this 'sanitize this, clean that, scrub those down' stuff is going to have some serious blowback at a future date. Many parents already were terrified of little Johnny or Jane going to the playground and picking up germs - so they sanitize and clean to the point that little Johnny and little Jane NEVER build up antibodies for many common diseases. Many of them get and stay sick much more and longer than those of us who grew in the times when our parents told us to go out and play in the mud and took us to friends houses when they got Chicken Pox, so we could too - and get it over with.

The blowback I see is that if society continues this compulsive sanitizing of seating, doors, checkout stands, and everything else that moves - and doesn't - is that as a society, we won't be able to build up antibodies for the common diseases and virus that exist virtually everywhere.

We will continue to devolve as a society and population to the point that when what should be a quite survivable contagion (as this one actually appears to be), will actually be devastating. Maybe not next generation - but possibly the following one. We are probably actually seeing some of the influence of the "clean obsession" of the last decade or so, right now....

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Lenguado
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The virus is finding its victims easily in this country because we eat too many french fries and cheeseburgers.

Hey Hey Hey now . . . . no reason to malign the noble cheeseburger.

There is NOTHING wrong with CHEESEBURGERS!

Just eat them with a lettuce wrap instead of the bread.

The opposite of :::: smiley

(with apologies, you hit one of my Hot Buttons....)

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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable." - President John F. Kennedy
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Captainkidd
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One thing being massively instilled in society today is the massive fear of germs & virus bugs. All this 'sanitize this, clean that, scrub those down' stuff is going to have some serious blowback at a future date. Many parents already were terrified of little Johnny or Jane going to the playground and picking up germs - so they sanitize and clean to the point that little Johnny and little Jane NEVER build up antibodies for many common diseases. Many of them get and stay sick much more and longer than those of us who grew in the times when our parents told us to go out and play in the mud and took us to friends houses when they got Chicken Pox, so we could too - and get it over with.


Another of the side effects of virtually an entire population that feels that there should be, and are willing to take, an injection, pill, infusion, or some type of pharmaceutical that will cure everything from "Anxiety" to "Restless Leg Syndrome" to "Curved Penis" (yes...they are actually advertising a drug on the TeeVee to cure your curved penis....)


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Bodhi
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As a pretty smart guy once ranted . . .


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. . .the Constitution protects us from our own best intentions:
It divides power among sovereigns and among branches of government
precisely so that we may resist the temptation to concentrate power
in one location as an expedient solution to the crisis of the day.
Erroldo
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@Dagan68 - seriously?? The doc was told to stop telling the truth by the establishment that should be telling this truth? What the #$%#%^& is that? we are so doom.
Mangymutt
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Vancouver WA
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captainkidd

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"Curved Penis" (yes...they are actually advertising a drug on the TeeVee to cure your curved penis....)


Some of us do not have that problem because their penii are so large we have to use both hands....Those with smaller penii might want to switch hands in the middle of stroking so they can get a balance on which way their pecker will bend.

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Onelegged
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Tbird242
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not sure if this is the right thread, but very interesting and well done.....

Coronavirus Pandemic Update 53: Anticoagulation; Can Mechanical Ventilation Make COVID 19 Worse?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8aG63yi....

MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY

critical care specialist Roger Seheult, MD

Sunday april 12 8pm (eastern), 2 hour live special. more info at end of video (about 16:30)
Tbird242
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if you watched the video, this will mean something...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article....

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