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Asimov
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I'm not sure which I'd rather see. Lots of witnesses, long drawn out process to show just how ****ing STUPID the dem's have been on this issue or for it to simply go away.

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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.

Festina lente.
Tinman
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Saw this posted on the Hedge. Found it interesting/terrifying concerning the Gulags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaOwcYLG....
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I await the asteroid....

but would be okay with a city-wide outbreak of dysentery
Mannfm11
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There are 3 billionaires running for the Democrat nomination. A 4th is bankrolling the left, Soros. What the hell or these billionaires doing? Is their future outside the USA? Are they communists? Do they merely want to control the people of the US? Bloomberg wants to regulate everything and is the big financier of the gun grabbing movement.

The impeachment is about covering up crimes. All this anti-Trump stuff is about keeping crimes covered. Russia was looted by a bunch of Americans? Money laundering? I suspect Soros has been laundering money for politicians for a long time. There is a lot of NSA, CIA and State tied up in no good in Ukraine. Now the NYT claims Russia hacked Burisma in November, reported by a company related to Crowdstrike. Isn't it interesting Crowdstrike is Ukrainian as well?

Trump is screwing up their plans. Since when is it illegal to look into suspicious activity by an elected official? They have looked into everything they could make up on Trump. If what Biden was doing was clean, we need to find out. But, if he was running a racket, which seems apparent from what is on the street (it was on the street before the call), we need to find out. Ukraine ran interference in the election. It was reported before the Russian story really grew roots. We spent over 2 years with the Democrats pushing a falsehood, which they are still trying to push. Senator Warren and a State Department lawyer (Winer) were tied up with a Russian. They used Nader, a money bundler for Hillary to try to dirty Trump. This is collusion, the press and the DNC. PELOSI IS A SERIAL LIAR, JUST LIKE WHEN THEY PASSED OBAMACARE.

You brought up the $64,000 question, why insurance companies do nothing to hold down health costs. They earn a percentage. The hospitals and the insurance companies are playing ping pong with us. The politicians are being supported or opposed by the bureaucracies of both. DC is a crime network.

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Mannfm11
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Tinman. I have been taking them seriously. This guy Project Veritas isn't the first time I have heard this. I'm not sure I haven't heard it out of the mouths of some of the Democratic candidates. PC is being enforced. I have realized we may have to kill these people. It has come from politicians, academics and others. They have to destroy the bill of rights to install socialism.

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The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
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"What the hell or these billionaires doing? "
I'll tell you.
You forgot where they get the money to spend on elections.
From you.
M1919a2
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Maybe Virginia is THAT important!
Amused
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A couple of things...
1. The point about Lev's legal troubles...they stem from laundering money to RNC candidates. That means he potentially has goods on them and anyone that worked with him.

2. The people Lev and Rudy were trying to bring in as Witnesses were themselves already indicted Oligarchs and the like.

If we are going to disqualify Lev for his criminal activity then we've got to disqualify all of these guys saying they have dirt on Hunter.

I say: Let it all come out.

I've heard they are trying to avoid having the Senate Trial televised. That should tell you how scared they are. And by they I don't mean the Republicans, I mean all of them.

They know Trump is radioactive, he's an unstable element that could take them all down. They would be rid of him if they could but he's had the past few years to gather up all the dirt on them and weaponize it.

Normally I'd call it extortion if that is his game, but since he seems to be using it against criminals I don't completely fault Trump for doing it to Congress.

Some would say, 'how can you say that?'

It seems pretty obvious what his game is, and how spineless our other corrupt public 'servants' are to stop it, so **** them.

Let's watch this **** on C-Span 2.
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Watch that white settlement church shooting again. Think about what you need to do in that situation. Then think about it on larger scale.
Xqqme
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@Amused
Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!
Tickerguy
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smiley

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Winding it down.
Asimov
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Amused: What if you're on the right track, but trump doesn't want it publicized. He wants to keep on using the blackmail material after he leaves office.

Ask yourself: If what I just suggested is the case, does the evidence fit? If it does, what could you expect in the future?

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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.

Festina lente.
Xqqme
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https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/....
2 U.S. Code SUBCHAPTER IICONGRESSIONAL CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED RESCISSIONS, RESERVATIONS, AND DEFERRALS OF BUDGET AUTHORITY

Lease anyone believe that Nancy Pelosi stating that President Trump (according to the GAO) broke the law. Refer to the above law. (Also this is the GAO and the OMB dispute)

Another BOMBSHELL fizzled.....

#NeverEndingImpeachment
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Don't think that Trump didn't trade access and donations all of those years (to BOTH political parties) without getting something in return. I still think that he knows a lot more than he leads on and it will be metered out slowly and only when he needs to. Yes, I know exactly what Trump is but he's definitely not stupid. Crazy like a fox, maybe.

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Amused
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Asimov: I don't worry about what he will do after leaving as much as his dynasty and what they will do, they have tasted the drug of power.

Now that he changed his residency to Florida there is nothing to stop him from making Ivanka his running mate in 2020 as her residency is still NY.
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I believe the SDNY is a swamp of its own. What are the chances so many people who have stuff on Trump are indicted for something else in the SDNY? Winning Powerball is more likely.

Start with Cohen. Cohen got a light sentence. Hush money for Stormy? That was a political scam, which Trump may or may not been involved.

Who was involved? Avenatti. What happened? Avenatti was running one scam after another. Stormy. Then the Kavanaugh screwballs.

Then we have Nader, a great talking point for the Democrats, in that he was supposed to be opening a back channel to Russia for Trump. Who was he? A scam bundler for Hillary and Adam Schiff, amongst others.

Now we have these Ukrainian Americans? All the dirty money out of Eastern Europe and they pick these 2 guys? What do they really have on these 2 guys? With Avenatti, it seems they have more and more as time goes on.

Now throw in this. The NU bar wants to stop Barr? Barr is running a legitimate investigation of an invented story that cost the taxpayers of the USA billions. Forget about what Mueller cost. They tied up a sizable amount of the US Congress up with this nonsense. Federal resources were employed to make this story up. It goes to the Obama White House.

Why would a state bar association want to block an investigation? Maybe it has to do with the SDNY? There is a lot that went on in the SDNY. Remember 2008? Who went to jail in the biggest fraud in world history? How many banks have committed crimes since that someone should have been prosecuted, but the shareholders were fined and the crooks inside went free? Who is looking for a crime in Trumps financials?

There is a chicken and egg theory here. How many of these people were already in the vise when the supposed crimes and actions were initiated? Was Cohen already in their grips while the campaign was going on? Avenatti, who relates directly to Cohen? Nader? The 2 Ukrainians? I bet they all were or at least some and playing a part in soiling Trump was negotiated.

Let's throw in more. Epstein, Weinstein, Weiner, Wall Street. Hillary ad Bill? How deep is this well? Thin the Clinton Foundation is legitimate? Who got the money? How put in the money? 10% went to the targeted problem. Haiti? What happened there? Iran and Ukraine? Who got the cash and who was carpetbagging in Ukraine?

Why is the press silent on the real stories and pushing the conspiracy theories? I'm sure anyone reading what I'm writing will call it a conspiracy theory, but is it? It is like calling the series of mistakes made against the Trump Campaign by the FBI an coincidence. I have mentioned prime players in the Democrat theory, all under indictment and all doing something to attempt to soil Trump.

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Themortgagedude
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What would be the result if Trump tried to have this impeachment declared unconstitutional? What is the high crime or misdemeanor that they are trying him for? I think the courts would rightly send it back to Congress and ask them to define exactly which crime he is being charged with. I don't see Abuse of Power or Obstruction of Congress as being crimes.

I think at this point Congress would draw up new charges based upon todays GAO legal opinion. If I were DJT I would fight this in every arena. I'm starting to think the Returdlicans are dumb enough to convict him.

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Tickerguy
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Can't the Supremes already ruled that impeachment is not judiciable.

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Amused
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Mannfm11: I think Trump hires the best people... ;)
Themortgagedude
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I'm assuming you're referring to Nixon KD? The court did say that the Senate has sole power to try impeachments. I wonder if trying a President without identifying an underlying crime would be considered differently though. The Constitution seems to require an underlying crime yet it gives the courts no role in the process.

I do believe you're right though. The SCOTUS nearly always declines to contradict a prior decision. They most likely would step aside.

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I think its time we ask ourselves if we still know the freedoms that our founding fathers intended for us. Ronald Reagan 1964
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Yep.

They won't touch it.

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Wifi
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The media, demorats, and a lot of congress critters, are utter ****ing scum.


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